Ward's basic attitude about boxing is that anything goes in a fight.
The rules are for the ref to enforce,
Not for the fighter to obey.
A fighter should do anything legal or illegal to avoid being dominated.
I'm not a fan of Ward's style but I respect his toughness.
Ward's fights came down to wars of attrition.
Ward retired undefeated so that "anything goes" mindset obviously worked for him, but I think most fighters come up from the amateurs following the rules, so it's hard to intentionally foul the other fighter.
Ward's basic attitude about boxing is that anything goes in a fight.
The rules are for the ref to enforce,
Not for the fighter to obey.
A fighter should do anything legal or illegal to avoid being dominated.
I'm not a fan of Ward's style but I respect his toughness.
Ward's fights came down to wars of attrition.
Ward retired undefeated so that "anything goes" mindset obviously worked for him, but I think most fighters come up from the amateurs following the rules, so it's hard to intentionally foul the other fighter.
You have to push the boundaries of the rules 'Rough house tactics' They are a vital skill, can get you out of trouble or help you survive.
I 100% agree. Its up to the ref. And will go as far to say dirty boxing is a art. Its like fighting dirty is a game inside of game. Using dirty tactics under the refs nose to get a fighter off his game.
Btw I think its funny how yall loved when Maidana was doing the most blantant dirty shyt vs Floyd but whine about Ward and his ruff-house tactics.
Yeah, Ward would always say "Everybody knows, I'm not a dirty fighter".
Now he says fight dirty and let the ref worry about enforcing the rules.
He said he got "grimmy and dirty" to "beat" Kovalev in the first fight.
https://www.boxingscene.com/ward-we-got-grimy-we-got-dirty-slowly-took-kovalevs-heart--110990
... he never had a hostile ref... :)
I was never a fan of Ward the fighter but had to respect what he did and what level he was able to do it at. I dont care if a fighter is dirty its a dirty business i just hope the refs do their jobs the best they can.
But as a commentator or ringside expert i think he is exceptional. If the man has something to say on the sport im all ears.
Ward is garbage. Calling himself Son of God. Then saying hey, do a crime, it's ok as long as you're not caught.
He's always telling people how humble he is too lol. Humble people do not boast about being humble because that obviously defeats the purpose and calling yourself SOG is obviously the most humble title one can bestow upon oneself.
Ward is a smart commentator but my god he is Biased...
Bradley... I sometimes wonder if he gets hit too hard.
Kellerman is pretty good, but again, biased.
How you explained the peanuts he s h I t t e d all over Lopez who is a top rank espn guy?
Was referring to the recent Loma vs Campbell fight but yeah Bradley depending on who is fighting will call out some fighters sure but he no question lean mostly towards Top Rank
I think he recently said Zurdo Ramirez is the best at 175 or something like that:lol1:
Bradley just blurt things out sometimes that doesn't make much sense
I'm a fan of Ward Commentary...do I agree with everything he says of course not but he at least TRIES to be fair
Joe Tessitor and Timothy Bradley basically just FAN OUT for the Top Rank Guy on ESPN and that is it
How you explained the peanuts he s h I t t e d all over Lopez who is a top rank espn guy?
The mind boggling thing about Wards fights is that when he got dirty few of his opponents responded in kind. It's mind boggling. Personally if I was a trainer I'd tell my fighter if he hits you low give it back to him or thumb him in the eye. It's bad enough that the referees allow him to get away with illegal tactics but his opponent generally don't retaliate so they can accept part of the blame.
Yeah, Ward would always say "Everybody knows, I'm not a dirty fighter".
Now he says fight dirty and let the ref worry about enforcing the rules.
He said he got "grimmy and dirty" to "beat" Kovalev in the first fight.
https://www.boxingscene.com/ward-we-got-grimy-we-got-dirty-slowly-took-kovalevs-heart--110990
Aye man, that's the grit he possesses to take him to the top tier of boxing. He's a tough motherfuker, and basically what he was saying was when **** gets rough and tumble you need to stand your ground
Yeah but Ward retired undefeated and doesn’t have a lot of fights compared to most. If he ever lost and there were sum rough tactics involved who knows what he’d say. He certainly clinched a lot in the first Kovalev fight. He got the win so that’s sum ring IQ. I know that’s not quite the same. But I don’t remember Ward ever having it rough and tumble against someone? I’ve followed Ward since the beginning, always knew he was good. Still when he was all terrain fighter he sure liked to fight near home. Sometimes I think he forgets that we were all there for it. He’s not the most experienced fighter by a long shot. I don’t want to slag cause he was very good, I just don’t see his insight being as valuable as a lot of others. I don’t think he ever fought Pro outside of the USA.
I get what you're saying and I agree that it's a FIGHT - I don't always mind grinders like that because it brings an intensity and physicality to the fight that can be missing when you get some cute former AM's in there. As ugly and frustrating as a lot of his fights were...SOME elements of what he did had thought and skill behind it...the wrestling, arm control, keeping a hand free, and balance in there is something a lot of fighters improve on in close quarters. (Let's not get crazy though, probably don't want 50 Ward clones around )
But Ward, I think he might have been better off had he just been honest about what he was instead of getting upset and looking down on fans who just didn't like how excessive he was with the dirty part of his game
Yeah, Ward would always say "Everybody knows, I'm not a dirty fighter".
Now he says fight dirty and let the ref worry about enforcing the rules.
I get what you're saying and I agree that it's a FIGHT - I don't always mind grinders like that because it brings an intensity and physicality to the fight that can be missing when you get some cute former AM's in there. As ugly and frustrating as a lot of his fights were...SOME elements of what he did had thought and skill behind it...the wrestling, arm control, keeping a hand free, and balance in there is something a lot of fighters improve on in close quarters. (Let's not get crazy though, probably don't want 50 Ward clones around )
But Ward, I think he might have been better off had he just been honest about what he was instead of getting upset and looking down on fans who just didn't like how excessive he was with the dirty part of his game
Now if we could get some good commentary into PBC. That’d be great.
You mean Fox because showtime are the best in the business by miles
Fox go about it like they do with NFL and MLB
No commentator is perfect. I think Paulie is probably the best at the moment. Ward is pretty good but I feel like he is a bit biased at times towards fighters that he is friends with, like Crawford.