Why the hype for Errol Spence?

Jury is still out for him and Crawford. What will they do when they get tagged? Crawford has not beaten a top WW, yet Thurman has. Spence will get his chance show us what he can do against the toughest man in the division. Thurman has a much better resume than either fighter. I think Spence gets his rep because of the Algieri destruction.

Spence is a welterweight and gains no more weight than other welterweights and less than some. He has never missed weight and make 147 easily. He is the best welterweight and you should see that if he KOs Porter who nobody else has dominated.

Glad I'm not the only one, i've thought this for a while and when everyone else is hyping a fighter up like that it does make you doubt your own boxing mind. You're thinking what the ***** am I missing??:boxing: I've heard the stories about the sparring between Spence and Floyd also. The fact that it was even a discussion shows that something did happen and he did take it to Floyd. Looking at Spence though I do struggle to see how that happened. Makes me think one of two things. Either he brought his A game to floyd, whilst floyd was at the end of a workout or something. Or I really am missing something when it comes to Spence Well I kind of explained the main points in my first post. Look at how much pressure he puts fighters under, hes constantly on you, but under control. He makes fighters waste energy and over-move, when they stop he will start punishing them. If they attack him, he backs out of range and puts a jab in their face (his jab is overlooked). As the opposing fighter this puts you under constant mental pressure and can create panic. He has great footwork, good length, throws good straight punches, but better short punches. You should watch in particular, his fights from Algieri on, people get inundated with results and who stopped who how fast, a lot of times that doesn't really tell the story. Most of it is hearsay, but I dont think Floyd would be at a disadvantage, he was preparing for Guerrero. The only thing you can say is he might have been surprised by the younger man, but even then you have to give Spence the credit. I can see how Spence would give Floyd fits in the ring tbh, he would have been a stylistic nightmare for Floyd. Watch the Ellerbe interview on YouTube, its revealing.

I made a very similar thread to this about 2 years ago, so I know where you're coming from. What's youre seeing is the same as me, that hes not super gifted in single areas, but I'm sold on him now. His gift is how many boxes he checks, his consistency, his mental and physical stamina, his IQ, ability to control distance, great jab and body punching. The fact that hes a big WW def works for him and makes him more formidable. I used to think TC would beat him clearly, now I think it's a close fight, but I still like Crawford. He is definitely heavy handed, and fighters with a less than elite chin/stamina will get stopped by him imo. Someone like Porter is prob a 12 round fight. The main thing for me is how other fighters and trainers talk about him that have seen him up close and personal in training/sparring. It's not the way they praise him, but everyone talks about him like he is a daunting task. Leonard Ellerbe is super defensive over anything Floyd related, always has been, if you watch his interview about the sparring sessions with Floyd-Spence, if you read between the lines, you can tell Spence put it on Floyd, and that is more or less in line with what everyone else says who was there. Glad I'm not the only one, i've thought this for a while and when everyone else is hyping a fighter up like that it does make you doubt your own boxing mind. You're thinking what the ***** am I missing??:boxing: I've heard the stories about the sparring between Spence and Floyd also. The fact that it was even a discussion shows that something did happen and he did take it to Floyd. Looking at Spence though I do struggle to see how that happened. Makes me think one of two things. Either he brought his A game to floyd, whilst floyd was at the end of a workout or something. Or I really am missing something when it comes to Spence

Now don't get me wrong, i haven't seen too many of Spence's fights. But from what i have seen, I really do struggle to see the hype. The guy is obviously a big welterweight, and to me it seems like his biggest asset. The fact that his body allows him to walk into the ring as a middleweight against welterweights. Yet he isn't consistently blasting guys out of there in spectacular fashion. I mean, we know that amir khan isn't the biggest puncher going. He does have some pop but nothing special, it's more the speed factor that gets him the knockdowns. But even he managed to get Lo Greco out in 1. Lo Greco didn't exactly fair well against Spence but he did take his shots relatively well. Spence never seems to vary his punches either in terms of power and speed. Everything comes at the same pace, I can only imagine how quickly an elite level fighter could figure out his timing. I suppose only time will tell, don't misquote me. I think he's solid, and i'm sure i'm missing something. So tell me what i'm missing. I made a very similar thread to this about 2 years ago, so I know where you're coming from. What's youre seeing is the same as me, that hes not super gifted in single areas, but I'm sold on him now. His gift is how many boxes he checks, his consistency, his mental and physical stamina, his IQ, ability to control distance, great jab and body punching. The fact that hes a big WW def works for him and makes him more formidable. I used to think TC would beat him clearly, now I think it's a close fight, but I still like Crawford. He is definitely heavy handed, and fighters with a less than elite chin/stamina will get stopped by him imo. Someone like Porter is prob a 12 round fight. The main thing for me is how other fighters and trainers talk about him that have seen him up close and personal in training/sparring. It's not the way they praise him, but everyone talks about him like he is a daunting task. Leonard Ellerbe is super defensive over anything Floyd related, always has been, if you watch his interview about the sparring sessions with Floyd-Spence, if you read between the lines, you can tell Spence put it on Floyd, and that is more or less in line with what everyone else says who was there.

''His opening act is sports related. He says something that's supposed to be everyday info. When called on it, here comes the funny part, he mentions your mother, an ass, some sand and tells you to find his info :lol1:'' quackquack lol your the fool that was demanding proof Wilder said he wanted a body in the ring. You denying that too now? I see no mention of it in that post again.

Imagine unifying your IBF belt against the WBC champion and being called a ducker. Lol.

''Yeah, Comedy Central ?!?!? Have I got a comedy act for you !!!!! It's more stupid than funny....Like a shot Carrot Top with only one toy in the chest.'' :lol1: I can't wait for the next accusation you make that requires proof quackquack So we are back to changing the subject again like yesterday. Spence is ducking Crawford, Haymon refuses to discuss the fight with Arum and you have turned it to talking about Comedy Central. And yesterday you were demanding proof that Wilder said he wanted a body in the ring before you will admit he said it. Thats the comedy in all this.

:haha: you claim spence is ducking bud and now you want me to prove it ?!?!?! ''hello, comedy central ?!?!?!'' links baby, show me the links. You wanted links that proved Wilder said he wanted a body in the ring. That was so lame, everybody knows Wilder said he wanted a body in the ring.

I think Spence's power is definitely overrated. He is a very good fighter tho. I mean he didn't stop Mikey. Never seriously hurt Peterson like Mathysse did. Only time I have seen him score a brutal KO was against Bundu. In the other fights he just broke his opponent down. I don't think he has serious 1 punch KO power

But of course :haha: When failure is imminent, do what you just did :fing02: Failure? Can you prove that Spence is NOT ducking Crawford? Bob Arum has just said a couple of hours ago he has contacted Haymon repeatedly trying to get the Crawford Spence fight made and they wouldnt even talk to him. What have you got that says the PBC have been trying to make the same fight? All ive seen from the PBC is Spence and Ellerbe telling us on camera that they shoving Crawford right to the back of the queue and are only looking to make in house fights for now even though Crawford is openly calling him out. So im seeing one side call the other side out and that other side pushing away any talk of making that fight. Sounds very much like a duck to me.

He’s a very well calculated boxer, who has good pop and is an awesome body puncher. He’s not a one punch ko artist, but more of a systematic beat down type of fighter. He can have stationary head movement which will hurt him against sharp punchers who can box on the back foot (like when he fought Brook) But dude can fight, and is getting better as he steps up in competition. I’d like to see a very decisive victory against porter as a real breakout fight. A real beat down to show he can be the top dog of the division. This is exactly the impression I have of him also. I think he's a good fighter, but I also think that it's your typical case of the hype is more than the fighter. (Edit: Unpopular opinion but i also think that Porter is criminally underrated. Might not be the best fighter but i think he gives everyone in the division one of their toughest fights. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see an upset) The fact that he doesn't carry that one punch KO power even though he is much bigger than the majority of his opponents does pose the question. Can he move up with people still respecting his power? Or will he be a 147 fighter forever. I honestly can't see him making 147 for the rest of his career, unless his career ends soon. To me he doesn't pass the eye test convincingly, and also doesn't really have the resume to back it up. I don't know what it is about the guy. I just get the feeling that we are waiting for him to get exposed once he reaches that elite level. The question is though, who is at that elite level to test him. Possibly Crawford? I personally think that the jury is still out on Crawford. Beat a small Gamboa, an oldish Amir Khan and well... A Jeff horn. He passes the eye test but that's about it so far.

Links, links, links........... Shove your links up your mothers anus and then go bury your head in the sand. Spence is ducking Crawford and only PBC junkies deny it.

Can't find a link to the guy/s he ducked. Inside info ??? He is ducking Crawford and everybody knows it. What better way to build a brand than to beat the guy who most people see as number 1 in the division. But Spence is doing the opposite. = DUCKING.

building the brand = ducking.

He’s a very well calculated boxer, who has good pop and is an awesome body puncher. He’s not a one punch ko artist, but more of a systematic beat down type of fighter. He can have stationary head movement which will hurt him against sharp punchers who can box on the back foot (like when he fought Brook) But dude can fight, and is getting better as he steps up in competition. I’d like to see a very decisive victory against porter as a real breakout fight. A real beat down to show he can be the top dog of the division.

He's a very good fighter and his style makes for good viewing. He is big for the weight and his defence ain't bad. He's not a master at anything but the whole package makes him a very dangerous fighter. Obviously Crawford beats him that's why they are running from him as fast as they can but I'm not sure any other welter can. I have him at number 2 at 147.