I understand everybody is still drunk off of manny’s win over thurman which is a great win for him but let’s sober up now.
The reason why I think people are saying this win puts manny above Floyd is because let’s be honest thurman is the best win/ legit opponent manny has had besides Floyd in over a decade. Bradley was a solid win but I think thurman ranked higher.
Manny fought delahoya after Floyd beat him. He fought Ricky hatton after Floyd knocked out a undefeated hatton. He fought mosley after a loss to Floyd and draw with mora. Floyd wiped out Marquez with ease while manny struggled all 4x against him(to be fair I believe Marquez was full of PEDS in the 4th fight)
He fought a faded mathysse, Jeff horn a cherry pick gone wrong, Brandon Rios, Chris algirie and Jessie Vargas( a solid fighter but definitely not an A level opponent). And broner who has not had a solid win in years.
Floyd beating canelo is bigger than manny beating thurman.
And now the popular thing to say is canelo was not ready when Floyd beat him to discredit Floyd when in reality Floyd was forced into that fight with canelo. Canelo was tired of fighting on mayweathers undercard and demanded to fight him next. AND THE FANS AND BOXING MEDIA WANTED THE FIGHT.
But it’s funny how fast people forget Manny was still on his way back from the devastating loss to Marquez so nobody was calling for the May/pac fight so canelo was the new boogie man that was supposed to have floyd pissing his bed at night. Now people are saying now that floyd is 42 and canelo is looking to fight light heavyweights now it’s a fair fight and now is the right time lol.
The only thing manny has over floyd is that he is the only 8 weight division world champion. but at the end of the day Mayweather beat that guy so how can you rank a guy as accomplished as mayweather lower than a person that he beat?
We all know Floyd is higher ATG than Manny. That doesn't change the fact that this was a TREMENDOUS win for the 40 year old. Thurman was top 3 in the division and undefeated. Pac is reminding of Duran, competing with men he should have no business doing so with. It's legendary ****.
It's killing you that he beat Thurman I see , At 40 he's not fighting Little Feather weight Kick boxers he won the title from a undefeated Champ
No actually Thurman is the best win manny had this whole decade. He usually fights people like algirie, Rios or Jeff horn lol but still a great win for him none the less at this stage in his career.
Who refused the drug test? And now feels 20 yers old at 40 with no vada testing lol.
It's killing you that he beat Thurman I see , At 40 he's not fighting Little Feather weight Kick boxers he won the title from a undefeated Champ
Nope. pretty sure you meant VADA being they are based in Vegas.
NSAC, VADA and Vegas all in Floyd's pocket. Just like you said.
Don’t tell me what I was suppose to write.....I knew usada caught floyd out and I know Thomas hauser exposed it also.
Vada are the better the two evils so yes it was a typo.
Floyd don’t use vada that’s how I know I just wrote it down wrong
USADA not VADA
USADA are the ones who never caught anyone cheating somehow. VADA are the ones who are catching guys left and right now.
Floyd was paying USADA about 5x the going rate for testing. Bought and paid for to do what he pleased.
150k - 50k retainer = 100k for two fighters.
that's 50k for Floyd. 50k for Manny. USADA testing.
Same price Andre Ward said he was qouted.
Yet VADA is charging Anthony Joshua 40k.
VADA does less testing, has no affiliation to WADA, no ABP testing and no records in ADAMS system.
5x the rate? Are you sure about that?
Yeah I meant to write USDA’s ......just an error
Nope. pretty sure you meant VADA being they are based in Vegas.
NSAC, VADA and Vegas all in Floyd's pocket. Just like you said.
USADA not VADA
USADA are the ones who never caught anyone cheating somehow. VADA are the ones who are catching guys left and right now.
Floyd was paying USADA about 5x the going rate for testing. Bought and paid for to do what he pleased.
Yeah I meant to write USDA’s ......just an error
Nope, Manny is 3-4 divisions smaller than Floyd. This run he's had at 147 is the equivilent of Floyd going to 160 or even 168 and dominating.
Not saying Floyd couldn't have had success like that but he didn't and I'll always take tee fighter who pushes his limits and takes a few losses over the undefeated 1 who plays it safe.
Yup to be as good as Manny, Floyd has to conquer middleweight.
That's how far the gap is.
Every fighter is subject to the court of popular opinion. In today’s “what have you done for me lately” world, Manny rises above and proves who the true warrior is, and demonstrates time and again what real fans appreciate in a fighter. While Floyd was content to remain in his comfort zone against opponents who were cherry picked or never at their best, Manny has continually walked right into the fire. Challenging himself while proving his detractors wrong.
As time marches forward, Floyd will be remembered more for his earnings, arrogance and undefeated record than for fighting the best at their best. He will take a hit for never fighting an elite level fighter at their very best. While Manny’s star rises above for doing just the opposite.
I agree, also Floyd Mayweather's win against Canelo Alvarez was much greater.
People try and make out that Canelo Alvarez was only a baby, and was not the finished article. 'He was undefeated, and had just fought and beaten Cotto/ Mosely'. I can remember at the time many reporters where picking against Mayweather.
Even Mayweather's win vs Oscar De La Hoya was greater than Keith Thurman.
Oscar was about 5 years past any meaningful win.
Canelo fought Cotto about 2 years after he fought Mayweather.
And Canelo has gotten better by a large margin since the Mayweather fight so no, he was not a finished product just yet.
yep Louis is rated higher than Marciano
Jones is rated higher than calzaghe.
I’m am believer that floyd did not beat Pacquiao with an even deck.
NSAC , VADA and Vegas were in floyd’s pocket and we all know that.
In terms of a better resume and achievements no one has ever done what Pacquiao did and he still pulled it off against a prime 30 year old capable champion at almost 41...it’s amazing when you really break it down and analyse it
USADA not VADA
USADA are the ones who never caught anyone cheating somehow. VADA are the ones who are catching guys left and right now.
Floyd was paying USADA about 5x the going rate for testing. Bought and paid for to do what he pleased.
Nope, Manny is 3-4 divisions smaller than Floyd. This run he's had at 147 is the equivilent of Floyd going to 160 or even 168 and dominating.
Not saying Floyd couldn't have had success like that but he didn't and I'll always take tee fighter who pushes his limits and takes a few losses over the undefeated 1 who plays it safe.
I understand everybody is still drunk off of manny’s win over thurman which is a great win for him but let’s sober up now.
The reason why I think people are saying this win puts manny above Floyd is because let’s be honest thurman is the best win/ legit opponent manny has had besides Floyd in over a decade. Bradley was a solid win but I think thurman ranked higher.
Manny fought delahoya after Floyd beat him. He fought Ricky hatton after Floyd knocked out a undefeated hatton. He fought mosley after a loss to Floyd and draw with mora. Floyd wiped out Marquez with ease while manny struggled all 4x against him(to be fair I believe Marquez was full of PEDS in the 4th fight)
He fought a faded mathysse, Jeff horn a cherry pick gone wrong, Brandon Rios, Chris algirie and Jessie Vargas( a solid fighter but definitely not an A level opponent). And broner who has not had a solid win in years.
Floyd beating canelo is bigger than manny beating thurman.
And now the popular thing to say is canelo was not ready when Floyd beat him to discredit Floyd when in reality Floyd was forced into that fight with canelo. Canelo was tired of fighting on mayweathers undercard and demanded to fight him next. AND THE FANS AND BOXING MEDIA WANTED THE FIGHT.
But it’s funny how fast people forget Manny was still on his way back from the devastating loss to Marquez so nobody was calling for the May/pac fight so canelo was the new boogie man that was supposed to have floyd pissing his bed at night. Now people are saying now that floyd is 42 and canelo is looking to fight light heavyweights now it’s a fair fight and now is the right time lol.
The only thing manny has over floyd is that he is the only 8 weight division world champion. but at the end of the day Mayweather beat that guy so how can you rank a guy as accomplished as mayweather lower than a person that he beat?
but, but floyd only defeated pac.... a torrecampo's and some other guys' left over...
Red - Floyd wasn't taking that fight serious.
Nonsense until i hear FLOYD himself say he wasn't taking that fight serious he was 100%
This "wasn't taking the fight serious meme" is laughable. You Floydstans will say anything to keep him their.
Fighting mma fighters (and that one actually counted on his record LOL) and kickboxers is pathetic.
His Zero means ****, history only remembers legends. Marciano is the best example of being undefeated meaning nothing, Ali is still rated above him.