Eddie Hearn is no better then Arum. Regarding Miller

Hearn built Miller up, invested time and money in him promoting the hell out of him as a Joshua opponent, gave him credibility, a platform and made him a name. Fury would just walk in and capitalise all the work Hearn did, and then take all the professional credit for humiliating Miller in the ring. So ultimately Hearn would have all lost the Miller promotion, Joshua's undefeated record and titles, and Frank Warren's Tyson Fury would walk off as perhaps the principal beneficiary. It could hardly have gone worse for Hearn so it's little wonder he has a bee in his bonnet.

Because Eddie ran his mouth about taking over America. He has been the biggest flop in boxing history. The dude signed Miller, Jacobs and Boo Boo Andrade. Miller is first to leave Others are right behind them.

Yes there are levels to right and wrong. If you are too dumb to process that then I don't know what to tell you. Most people will realise that by the time they're about 10 years old. That's why a thief gets a slap on the wrist and a murderer gets a life sentence. Both wrong but on different levels. I can't believe I'm having to explain this to you. Idiot logic and even more idiotic examples. Obviously taking a life is no comparison to taking a few drugs or a lot of drugs. You inherited the brain of a barfly. A person with a brain might consider one who took a single life vs one who took many ... as a similie to taking a few PEDS or multiple PEDS. Only an ignoramus would consider a robber vs a murderer. Good night lil girl. Ignoramous: synonyms: fool · idiot · ass · halfwit · nincompoop · blockhead · buffoon · dunce · dolt · cretin · imbecile · dullard · moron · simpleton · clod · dope · ninny · chump · dimwit · nitwit · goon · dumbo · dummy · dum-dum · dumbbell · loon · jackass · bonehead · fathead · numbskull · dunderhead · chucklehead · knucklehead · muttonhead · pudding-head · thickhead · wooden-head · airhead · pinhead · lamebrain · peabrain · birdbrain · zombie · jerk · nerd · dipstick · donkey · noodle · nit · numpty · twit · clot · goat · plonker · berk · prat · pillock · wally · git · wazzock · divvy · nerk · twerp · charlie · mug · muppet · nyaff · balloon · sumph · gowk · gobdaw · schmuck · bozo · boob · lamer · turkey · schlepper · chowderhead · dumbhead · goofball · goof · goofus · galoot · dork · lummox · klutz · putz · schlemiel · sap · meatball · gink · cluck · clunk · ding-dong · dingbat · wiener · weeny · dip · simp · spud · coot · palooka · poop · squarehead · yo-yo · dingleberry · wing nut · drongo · dill · alec · galah · nong · bogan · poon · boofhead · mompara · tomfool · noddy · clodpole · loggerhead · spoony · mooncalf - all seem to fit you, since you LIKE name-calling.

The Hearn haters get it but they dont want to talk in reality. This is a lame hate thread. If Bob Arum waited 6 months or a year before attempting to get a fight made with somebody who has "JUST" been caught drugs cheating im sure there wouldnt be much of an issue. Its the fact that it has only just happened. The PEDS are most likely not even out of his system yet. As for employing EX PED cheats, they all do, you serve your sentence and you get on with your life. There are that many ex ped cheats a promoter would be dumb to just ignore them all based on history. You Hearn haters know this you are all just trying to make something out of nothing. You know EXACTLY what his complaint is but you all crying so hard cuz its Eddie Hearn.

Context is important here. It was only 8 weeks ago that Miller got busted. He failed four tests for three different substances. Substances which were significantly more hardcore than anything Fury, Galahad, Whyte, etc failed for. When Hearn tried to sign Fury he had served 2 years out of the sport and the nandrolone accusation was still being contested/settled. When he signed Galahad, he had served his suspension, just like Whyte. Both had claimed to have suffered from ignorance of over the counter supplements. Browne was the same, but had also served his time. Believable excuses. With Povetkin, Hearn had no choice but to work with him, the WBA mandated him to fight Joshua after he served a ban. What's Hearn supposed to do, tell Joshua to vacate? Arum is actively trying to pick up a drug cheat before he has even served his time (it's only been 8 weeks ffs). Hearn has never done something like that to my knowledge, he appears to be by far the more morally upstanding major promoter out there. Yet I see no topics of criticism of Warren, Arum or Haymon for working with drug cheats? Why the hate on Hearn on this forum? He's the only one even trying to maintain a bit of integrity in the sport even though he's not pertect. Context should be needed here and the major point is that Miller was busted but 8 weeks ago which is the whole point to Hearns problem with this. However this is a hate, shill thread which is yet another anti Eddie Hearn thread and hate threads dont do context they do bias. So context just gets in the way. Its not that Miller is a drugs cheat it is the fact that Miller has ONLY JUST been busted as a drugs cheat.

So there are levels of right and wrong? Why bash hearn cause he didn't stoop to THAT level? LoL! Sad. . Yes there are levels to right and wrong. If you are too dumb to process that then I don't know what to tell you. Most people will realise that by the time they're about 10 years old. That's why a thief gets a slap on the wrist and a murderer gets a life sentence. Both wrong but on different levels. I can't believe I'm having to explain this to you.

Context is important here. It was only 8 weeks ago that Miller got busted. He failed four tests for three different substances. Substances which were significantly more hardcore than anything Fury, Galahad, Whyte, etc failed for. When Hearn tried to sign Fury he had served 2 years out of the sport and the nandrolone accusation was still being contested/settled. When he signed Galahad, he had served his suspension, just like Whyte. Both had claimed to have suffered from ignorance of over the counter supplements. Browne was the same, but had also served his time. Believable excuses. With Povetkin, Hearn had no choice but to work with him, the WBA mandated him to fight Joshua after he served a ban. What's Hearn supposed to do, tell Joshua to vacate? Arum is actively trying to pick up a drug cheat before he has even served his time (it's only been 8 weeks ffs). Hearn has never done something like that to my knowledge, he appears to be by far the more morally upstanding major promoter out there. Yet I see no topics of criticism of Warren, Arum or Haymon for working with drug cheats? Why the hate on Hearn on this forum? He's the only one even trying to maintain a bit of integrity in the sport even though he's not pertect. So there are levels of right and wrong? Why bash hearn cause he didn't stoop to THAT level? LoL! Sad. You can't call anyone out on morals and integrity and you regular break the code yourself ... at WHATEVER level. Everyone's POINT is that hearn has continued to work with PED cheats ... so he can't get mad at anyone else for doing the same. And no, the level of offense doesn't matter when you're guilty of the same yourself.

LOL funny to see that list cuz thats exactly why I didn't think Eddie would drop Big Baby. I was legit surprised Eddie sh^tcanned him. Idk that Eddie is mad about it more than he's doing his usual media outrage sh^t thats meaningless. He's throwing shade on people daily like a 13 year old girl. Agreed on all points. hearn is upset cause he probably lost some money in the changeover, then AJ lays an egg AND loses all his titles (i.e. hearns bargaining Ace in trying to manipulate boxing in general and the HW division specifically). LoL, he prolly blames all their troubles on Big Baby. I thought Big Baby was gonna stop AJ anyway. I think that shove off the stage is still messing with AJ's mind ... PS - I don't condone or appreciate Big Baby doing PEDS ... very disappointed and a bit angry at him.

You have problems understanding what Eddie said, he said when you cheat you should be punished, he never said he won't work with Miller again, all he said is that you must serve a ban as a punishment before you can come back to boxing. It's ignorant of you to compare that to Fury who served his 2 years suspension before Eddie tried to sign him. Eddie is saying you need to serve your ban before you should be back into game and he is right, some people call Eddie hypocrite out of hate even when he's doing the right thing. Fury hadn’t served his suspension. Also, Hearn is also on record saying drugs cheats should be banned from the sport. If he genuinely believed that and felt THAT strongly about it saying they should be gone from the sport, he would stand by his morals and not work with any. Hearn doesn’t care really. He says the right things because he has to. When it comes to putting money in his pocket, his words and morals go out the window. That’s absolutely fine but he should get off his high horse. For the record i quite like Hearn but he’s a hypocrite in this situation. He’ll say the right things but it’s proven he will go against his words.

But Eddie is trying to say nobody should work with Miller and essentially scolding Arum for doing it. The same Eddie Hearn that tried to sign Fury when Fury was serving a two year ban and unlicensed because of it. Not to mention all the other fighters that previously tested positive that he works with. I use Fury as the example because he was in a similar position to Miller right now when Hearn tried to sign him. No different to Arum and Miller. Nobody is saying Eddie is worse than Arum or vice-versa, but Hearn is the one being a hypocrite. You have problems understanding what Eddie said, he said when you cheat you should be punished, he never said he won't work with Miller again, all he said is that you must serve a ban as a punishment before you can come back to boxing. It's ignorant of you to compare that to Fury who served his 2 years suspension before Eddie tried to sign him. Eddie is saying you need to serve your ban before you should be back into game and he is right, some people call Eddie hypocrite out of hate even when he's doing the right thing.

Context is important here. It was only 8 weeks ago that Miller got busted. He failed four tests for three different substances. Substances which were significantly more hardcore than anything Fury, Galahad, Whyte, etc failed for. When Hearn tried to sign Fury he had served 2 years out of the sport and the nandrolone accusation was still being contested/settled. When he signed Galahad, he had served his suspension, just like Whyte. Both had claimed to have suffered from ignorance of over the counter supplements. Browne was the same, but had also served his time. Believable excuses. With Povetkin, Hearn had no choice but to work with him, the WBA mandated him to fight Joshua after he served a ban. What's Hearn supposed to do, tell Joshua to vacate? Arum is actively trying to pick up a drug cheat before he has even served his time (it's only been 8 weeks ffs). Hearn has never done something like that to my knowledge, he appears to be by far the more morally upstanding major promoter out there. Yet I see no topics of criticism of Warren, Arum or Haymon for working with drug cheats? Why the hate on Hearn on this forum? He's the only one even trying to maintain a bit of integrity in the sport even though he's not pertect. Right on the money.

But Eddie is trying to say nobody should work with Miller and essentially scolding Arum for doing it. The same Eddie Hearn that tried to sign Fury when Fury was serving a two year ban and unlicensed because of it. Not to mention all the other fighters that previously tested positive that he works with. I use Fury as the example because he was in a similar position to Miller right now when Hearn tried to sign him. No different to Arum and Miller. Nobody is saying Eddie is worse than Arum or vice-versa, but Hearn is the one being a hypocrite. Context is important here. It was only 8 weeks ago that Miller got busted. He failed four tests for three different substances. Substances which were significantly more hardcore than anything Fury, Galahad, Whyte, etc failed for. When Hearn tried to sign Fury he had served 2 years out of the sport and the nandrolone accusation was still being contested/settled. When he signed Galahad, he had served his suspension, just like Whyte. Both had claimed to have suffered from ignorance of over the counter supplements. Browne was the same, but had also served his time. Believable excuses. With Povetkin, Hearn had no choice but to work with him, the WBA mandated him to fight Joshua after he served a ban. What's Hearn supposed to do, tell Joshua to vacate? Arum is actively trying to pick up a drug cheat before he has even served his time (it's only been 8 weeks ffs). Hearn has never done something like that to my knowledge, he appears to be by far the more morally upstanding major promoter out there. Yet I see no topics of criticism of Warren, Arum or Haymon for working with drug cheats? Why the hate on Hearn on this forum? He's the only one even trying to maintain a bit of integrity in the sport even though he's not pertect.

A promoter would promote anyone who can make them some money. That's their bottom line. They don't have any scruples, morals or integrity. If they did then they wouldn't be a promoter because promoters love money. When an fighter gets to the point where he can no longer make the promoter some money then he discards them.

Eddie is no better? It's Arum who's signing Miller not Eddie you fool :dance: But Eddie is trying to say nobody should work with Miller and essentially scolding Arum for doing it. The same Eddie Hearn that tried to sign Fury when Fury was serving a two year ban and unlicensed because of it. Not to mention all the other fighters that previously tested positive that he works with. I use Fury as the example because he was in a similar position to Miller right now when Hearn tried to sign him. No different to Arum and Miller. Nobody is saying Eddie is worse than Arum or vice-versa, but Hearn is the one being a hypocrite.

Promoters are SCUM...ALL OF THEM! Truth^. As soon as these fanboys stop worshiping promoters and learn to love BOXING, the better the sport will be.

Promoters are SCUM...ALL OF THEM!

Eddie Hearn has worked with Povetkin Ortiz Lucas brown And dillian white. All who have had positive drug results. While I agree that Miller shouldn’t get a shot at fury so soon I can’t help but think Eddie is a little salty. Miller was the perfect foil for Joshua debut in America a tough come forward durable fighter with a great mouth. Now they will paint miller as the bad guy and fury as the great good guy to shut him up. The build up will be very good and the event will do good numbers! Is that why Eddie Hearn is so mad about this? Discuss.all these guys work with drug cheats. PBC works with Lamont Peterson Mickey Bey Wilder’s brother etc. Too rank gBp Hearn all the same

I like Eddie! I just don’t get why he’s going around screaming and shouting about it. What he is saying is correct as drug cheats should be basnished from the sport but as he and every other promoter has shown if the drug cheat makes money they will use him. I believe eddy is a little salty because arum is about to steal his business model with fury fighting an American “bad boy” in America.

Eddie is no better? It's Arum who's signing Miller not Eddie you fool :dance:

Arum is worse he signed Margarito to fight Pacquiao while still suspended and managed to get around it by getting another commission to license him He won't get Miller a boxing license in NY or California or Nevada he will probably get him license somewhere else though