Honestly Wilder/Oritz 2 should not be happening.

Why is Whyte hyped so much? He went life and death with Chisora and Parker and that’s about all he has done. Ortiz is legit. There is a reason fury Joshua and the rest haven’t fought him. But Whyte has beat 2 top 10 rank heavys since Ortiz is a top 5 but he had his chance and got KTFO fair and square and has not fought a top 10 ranked heavy since his loss.

Ortiz is better than Whyte Whyte fights in late July Wilder is fighting Ortiz in early September Should wilder cancel the Ortiz fight and wait? Whyte likely loses to Rivas anyways.

What you mean is in order to have a conversation with you then I need to remember it has to revolve around your logic. I'll pass...... OK bytch, whatever you say :)

The fact that Ortiz ducked is wrong with that one. Before you say Ortiz didn't duck that eliminator answer the question who is Ortiz fighting next and if you are not blinded by bias you will understand why Ortiz ducked. What you mean is in order to have a conversation with you then I need to remember it has to revolve around your logic. I'll pass......

What was wrong with this one? https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-vs-dillian-whyte-wbc-final-eliminator-ordered--127502 The fact that Ortiz ducked is wrong with that one. Before you say Ortiz didn't duck that eliminator answer the question who is Ortiz fighting next and if you are not blinded by bias you will understand why Ortiz ducked.

I enjoyed the 1st fight and there are things that happened in it to make it a little bit controversial, the fact that Ortiz very nearly had Wilder finished and then there was that dodgy as hell extra recovery time they gave Wilder. But ive watched all of Ortiz fights since the Wilder loss and his performances in those fights do not fill me with confidence in him being able to do much in this fight now. I think the man is done. But hes ranked and there are for sure worse guys they could of matched Wilder up with so its not the end of the world. But i do agree about Whyte should be getting his shot soon. Breazeale was a mando so we cant really be demanding his next fight be a mando but Wilders had only 2 in 5 years or something so if they start coming more regular that can only be a good thing.

It's happening because enough people cried because they hate Wilder that it was "close" and he"got lucky" so now we have to sit through this poor old man getting sparked again.

Was the final eliminator called by WBC already? There are rumours this Rivas fight will be a final eliminator but nothing confirmed by Suleiman. What was wrong with this one? https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-vs-dillian-whyte-wbc-final-eliminator-ordered--127502

Would love to see Wilder put Whyte to sleep. But Whyte has turned too many fights down and I could care less if he is frozen out.

ANYONE could end up with a severe injury in this sport. I see no greater risk for Ortiz than anyone else. In fact I think Wilder's ability to one punch KO mfers makes him less likely to kill someone in the ring cuz most severe ring injuries take place after a beating not a one punch KO. Granted the one punch KO looks scarier, but the reality comes down to its better to take one massive shot to the head than 7, 8, 9+ rounds of moderate strength head shots. Unless he takes a beating like Stiverne In the first fight and Ortiz already got hit alot in the first fight. And he is at a greater risk because of his age. Ortiz almost wasn't cleared to fight in the first fight because of his high blood pressure and all. He almost didn't pass the 'medically fit to fight' test they do. That tells me enough. And he is even older now

Ortiz is more than a warm body. He had Wilder in trouble until the bombsquad landed telling blows. Plus Ortiz has to know that this is his last hurrah. He will be highly motivated and could cause a surprise upset.

Joshua has had 3 years to fight Ortiz. Eddie has them both at one point and it was a easy fight to make... rewind 2 years and wilder has already beaten him and Eddie and co want to call him out with 5 weeks notice? Doesn’t add up to me.

Why is Whyte hyped so much? He went life and death with Chisora and Parker and that’s about all he has done. Ortiz is legit. There is a reason fury Joshua and the rest haven’t fought him. IDK why anyone thinks Whyte is a good fight. His defense is bad... he won't last more than four rounds. Ortiz, Usyk, Miller, Hrgovic, and Ruiz Jr. are all more competitive.

Huh? I'm talking the Ortiz rematch. Otherwise Whyte should have taken his final eliminator. Was the final eliminator called by WBC already? There are rumours this Rivas fight will be a final eliminator but nothing confirmed by Suleiman.

Ortiz may end up like Zab Judah or Stevenson. And I'm not kidding around, the guy is ancient and he is fighting the hardest puncher alive for a second time

You believe rankings are unnecessary in boxing? Huh? I'm talking the Ortiz rematch. Otherwise Whyte should have taken his final eliminator.

Wilder should just fight Whyte then the winner take Fury. Im a Wilder fan but this rematch makes no sense it will be entertaining but Whyte deserves a title shot more than Ortiz . Why is this fight happening and not Whyte Because Whyte is being promoted by Eddie Hearn, and Wilder's guys do not like negotiations with Eddie. Same with Frank Warren. I suppose that is the reason, when Dillian Whyte toured the US looking for options, Wilder suggested to him to sign-up with Al-Haymon, fight Ortiz and he will definitely give him a title shot (a voluntary one). That would have made negotiations much easier. Whyte could have signed up with Al-Haymon for a 3-fight deal and gotten his title shot.

Ortiz is legit. There is a reason fury Joshua and the rest haven’t fought him. And that reason is he chose not to fight AJ

Why is Whyte hyped so much? He went life and death with Chisora and Parker and that’s about all he has done. Ortiz is legit. There is a reason fury Joshua and the rest haven’t fought him.

Eh...... It'll be a good fight. Just unnecessary. You believe rankings are unnecessary in boxing?