common sense and history tell us ortiz is telling the truth

ortiz is like 39-40(the pbc haters suggest hes closer to 50)...so he dont have much time left aj and wilder hold all belts so he has no other title shot lined up anywhere...and ortiz claims being a world champ is his dream(everyone believes other fighters when they say that ortiz has shown willingness to fight wilder which AJ hasnt...and he even wanted a rematch but couldnt get it on the other side weve seen hearn lowball offer wilder twice...these were confirmed when DAZN kept hearn at bay and offered wilder more than double either offer from hearn hearn has also been called a lowballer by people other than wilders team... hearn is a confirmed liar and BS artist lets face it....ortiz is better than miller and way too dangerous on short notice....they didnt want to fight ortiz on regular notice...theres no way theyd accept him as a replacement...they had in their head theyd be fighting an overweight, slow, orthodox fighter....theres no way they want short notice against a lefthander ESPN rates ortiz the 5th best HW while the unbeaten miller does not rate in the top 10......its obvious they wont accept him as a replacement its common sense and basic logic

Comments (20)

B_Phontain

Told you these Wilder fans are retarded. Since when did Ortiz become American? :rofl: You know wtf I mean. Stop being obtuse. These fighters who fight in AMERICA seem to have trouble landing an AJ fight. For a guy with a few belts he should be a star over here by now.

7y ago

_Rexy_

Turn down a chance to win the unified heavyweight championship of the world and your image may suffer. You may get criticism for not stepping up, not showing ambition. Turn down a chance to win the unified heavyweight championship of the world and blame a lowball offer and the scrutiny moves elsewhere. PR 101. Then on the flipside you can offer peanuts, then go to the media and say "we made an offer, they're ducking."

7y ago

LetOutTheCage

Looool this is sad, sure take the word of the well known drugs cheat who has also been known to contradict himself.

7y ago

Jubei

Ortiz fought on the undercard of Lara in his last fight, and on Mikey Garcias undercard before that and on another undercard before that, he has no profile, doesnt speak english, cant promote/sell a fight. Yet he talks big and was going to fight AJ for any amount he claimed, now that he got called out he tucks his tail in, he didnt just exposes himself, he exposed all the PBC pom pom weavers, Haymon and specially Wilder.

7y ago

Holler

From what I’ve read, there was a Lowball offer, turned down and that’s it. No contract, no negotiations. I’d love to see a list of fighters who have claimed the same thing with Hearn. Wilder Whyte Wilder Fury Ortiz I’m sure I’m missing some... Looking forward to AJ vs Trevor Bryan though. The UK Hearniac casual crowd can talk about how AJ beat an American heavyweight champion. Turn down a chance to win the unified heavyweight championship of the world and your image may suffer. You may get criticism for not stepping up, not showing ambition. Turn down a chance to win the unified heavyweight championship of the world and blame a lowball offer and the scrutiny moves elsewhere. PR 101.

7y ago

BattlingNelson

Your lying as always. Fury demanded 60%. Was offered a 4 fight deal including Joshua , where he wouldn't be guaranteed 4 million because a Joshua fight easily doubled his 7 million he made for Wilder. Whyte was offered his highest pay. Ortiz can't be low balled to what he's made and does phantom call outs. Wilder ran from 120 million. Hearn also initially offered Miller 2/3 million from his 200 K paydays , is that low balling to? DAZN stepped in and offered the 6.5 million. You even added Wilder twice because you were so intent making your own phantom list. Ha There is a trend though. That's a fact.

7y ago

Toffee

Doesn’t matter what their career paydays are though. if I go to a job interview and everyone in my position makes 100k a year and they offer me minimum wage because that’s what I made at my last job, should I take it? I'll happily argue analogies. It's like if you were currently earning $150k a year. More than most people in your industry. You talk about wanting to move to a more successful company. You get offered $700k a year. And turn it down because you think you are worth more and go back to your $150k a year.

7y ago

_Rexy_

That's a terrible analogy. It's more like you have 2 job offers, job number one is a few hours work a day, 3 days a week and you'll get $15,000 a year, the other is 50 hours a week of difficult work for $150,000 a year. Do you take the easy job or the hard job? Most who have been offered the Joshua fight take the easy job. Your example makes no sense, but I’m not going to argue analogies.

7y ago

Stinger1

Doesn’t matter what their career paydays are though. if I go to a job interview and everyone in my position makes 100k a year and they offer me minimum wage because that’s what I made at my last job, should I take it? That's a terrible analogy. It's more like you have 2 job offers, job number one is a few hours work a day, 3 days a week and you'll get $15,000 a year, the other is 50 hours a week of difficult work for $150,000 a year. Do you take the easy job or the hard job? Most who have been offered the Joshua fight take the easy job.

7y ago

KillaMane26

Don't see why yall dont put yall agendas and emotions to the side and wait till we see what the offer was...

7y ago

BattlingNelson

7y ago

_Rexy_

And what do they have in common? They were offered career high paydays to fight AJ and walked away. They think they deserve more. Fair enough. But of the offers that we have some knowledge of, what do you think? 40% for both Fury and Wilder is absolutely a good offer. Was it around $5 million for Whyte? They're not lowball offers. Doesn’t matter what their career paydays are though. if I go to a job interview and everyone in my position makes 100k a year and they offer me minimum wage because that’s what I made at my last job, should I take it?

7y ago

Toffee

From what I’ve read, there was a Lowball offer, turned down and that’s it. No contract, no negotiations. I’d love to see a list of fighters who have claimed the same thing with Hearn. Wilder Whyte Wilder Fury Ortiz I’m sure I’m missing some... Looking forward to AJ vs Trevor Bryan though. The UK Hearniac casual crowd can talk about how AJ beat an American heavyweight champion. And what do they have in common? They were offered career high paydays to fight AJ and walked away. They think they deserve more. Fair enough. But of the offers that we have some knowledge of, what do you think? 40% for both Fury and Wilder is absolutely a good offer. Was it around $5 million for Whyte? They're not lowball offers.

7y ago

_Rexy_

7y ago

RoyJonesJrp4pno1

i agree....thats my point common sense tells you no way he turned down a good deal...and serious doubt would be cast if any deal was actually offered he said terms were discussed...id love to hear what was offered....if 6.5 was discussed and he said "dont bother" id have to blame ortiz.....that would be a great deal which is why id have a hard time believing even that was offered....most likely a lowball offer designed to be turned down so they could say "we tried".......we know how hearn operates and its been told by a few If he was offered anything 2mill or above he had to accept.

7y ago

otrocubiche

The only logical explanation is that he is dirty and cannot be tested now, if he is caught cheating he'd be banned for life. No matter how low was any offer, it would have been more than what he'd make during the rest of his career. Old habits die hard.

7y ago

sicko

Eddie own fighter has complained about "Low Ball Offers" :dunno: Guys seen Charles Martin get big money, also Big Baby was prepared to make $6.5 Million, why would someone like Ortiz take less than what Big Baby was going to get. In fact he might have legit argument that he should get MORE than Big Baby but that is another Topic. Same Deal Big Baby was getting and it is ZERO reason why Ortiz should turning it down. Anything less...then I somewhat understand! Don't agree with it but I totally Understand. Ortiz would be jumping in and saving their event so I wouldn't be shocked if he really did ask for $10 Million despite not deserving it :dunno:

7y ago

Real_King_Kong

its not going to matter....there would/will be no drop off in ticket sales.....ortiz should have been offered every dollar that miller was.....one could argue in fact that ortiz is actually a better name....i wont do that because its not worth the effort....but i could probably do it.....i think expecting a drop off at all is a reach.... I think Ortiz is the better fight, and it’s clear that miller didn’t deserve that $$$ in the first place, but I’m not sure I’d offer Ortiz the same money. Miller did his part to promote the fight, Ortiz would just be a replacement. It’s not gonna happen anyway, cuz it looks like Ortiz doesn’t want it.

7y ago

Curt_Henning

DAZN confirmed hearn lowballed wilder twice by offering more than double hearns top offer ortiz says he was lowballed several other fighters have accused hearn of the same thing...and not just in the HW division yet somehow we should believe hearn!!!! i love it! sounds like sound logic! hearn wouldnt lie...its everyone else lying and conspiring because they are jealous right!!!!???? right!!! of course!!!

7y ago

Curt_Henning

oh man...it must be nice for you guys knowing you can say anything and dont have to look someone in the eye while saying...you guys say whatever comes to your minds with no shame....my arguments are based on logic and common sense....and hearn being a lowballer has been confirmed by other fighters and even the very own network that hearn provides fights for.... yet you guys are still here with no shame trying to tell me wilder/ortiz was rigged! hey man AJ /klit was rigged! yeah man totally! hahahaha......i dont think ive ever seen someone defend wilder and go that low.....i mean its probably happened but iver never seen it! hey guys just say anything! dont worry...all you have to look at is your screen! who cares if its illogical and not backed by anything!

7y ago