Hearn says in an IFL interview that Ortiz is no.1 replacement for both him and Joshua but Ortiz's team feel "he won't be ready". Let's hope it's just a negotiating tactic.
Honestly, I'm a cynic; and the cynic in me tells me that Eddie Hearn really doesn't want Luis Ortiz as a replacement opponent for Anthony Joshua on that June 1st date at MSG, because it's too risky and dangerous. It's a fight that he could lose and possibly by TKO.
Yeah, and you also probably believe the moon is made of cheese.
Despite all the evidence to the contrary, you simply cannot give Joshua / Hearn any credit. Meanwhile, they're begging Wilder to fight, have told Fury they're ready when he is. They've fought and beaten Whyte, Parker, Klitschko and Povetkin, but according to you they somehow are afraid of this guy, who struggled with Christian Hammer.
Like, seriously, where is your brain?
I doubt it. I've just read an insider from Ortiz's team say Ortiz is ready to take the fight on as little as 5 weeks notice and Ortiz's manager is saying send the contract.
Hearn just throwing his name out there as usual without any real attempts as per usual, and then spinning the narative hoping the boxing fans are dumb enough to believe a guy that fought Wilder for only 400k is asking for the moon in order to fight Joshua.
So you just believe everything Ortiz's camp says and don't question it at all? Why is that?
But you do question Joshua's camp...
Yeah, Eddie fools everybody except Wilder fanboys and the LDBC. They are the only people smart enough to see through his deceit. The rest of the world are basically retards.No, I didn't say that. Now you are deliberately distorting what I said.
I said that it is more difficult for Brits to see Edward in the same light as the rest of us in the boxing world see him because he is part of you. You all share the same values, norms customs and traditions. In other words you share emotional bond with him that the rest of us don't.
For example: If I was an Englishman I would love Eddie Hearn and wouldn't be able to detect any flaws or defects in his character whatsoever because I would perceive him as part of myself but I am not. I'm American.
It's similar to a family member. Others may perceive a member of my family differently than myself and can see all of their flaws and shortcomings but not me because I have a blind spot for them because they belong to me and are a part of me.
It's my family. Therefore, it makes me very partial and biased when it comes to any criticism of them whether it be right or wrong I will defend them.
Well technically it's true that Wilder doesn't want to fight Joshua at the moment but it is not so clear that Ortiz doesn't. Those are Eddie Hearn's words and not Team Ortiz'.
Unless, I hear Luis Ortiz announce from his own lips that he needs more time and therefore he won't be available by June 1st then I would have to call bullshit on what Edward is saying. It's because he is only telling us what he thinks what we want to hear by bringing up Luis Ortiz' name.
He knows that is the next big replacement fight that the public wants to see if there is no Jarrell Miller. However, he said he wasn't ready. Now whose words were those? His or theirs? Given Eddie's credibility we will never know.
Since Eddie Hearn is such a proven liar; It's very hard for me to believe a single word that comes from his mouth.
By me being an American I have non biased and non partial point of view of him. It's hard for you because he is your compatriot who provide you guys with hours of entertainment
So
Hearn is a proven liar so you won’t believe him
I guess the same applies to wilder
The showtime head who got caught out lying
Wilders manager
Man I guess there is pretty much nobody in the world you would believe lol even your president
You dislike Hearn and Joshua, I get it. You don’t like them, that’s your choice but every promoter has lied.
So you must believe none of them
I made my point before in terms of mentioning Ortiz, it’s baiting him
Either way, it’s night here, hopefully Ortiz comes out and Says he wants it and it gets made
Good night
How much are you willing to admit that Eddie had not reached out to Team Ortiz as a possible replacement for Jarrell Miller?
Moreover, how much are you willing to admit that Luis Ortiz would not be Miller's replacement on June 1st?
I have one last question; If Deontay Wilder was to defeat Wladimir Klitschko once he makes his comeback will you give him full credit for the win?
On the wlad part
Wilder ducked him when wlad was active
Hasn’t he been retired for like 2 years now lol? You would give a boxer credit for ducking a guy in their prime only to fight them after they retired for 2 years ?
Either way, I’d back wlad to beat wilder even in his retirement days as wilder relies on power alone which wlad could avoid
I’m not willing to bet, I don’t bet, just watch
My point is simple, it’s obvious to everyone that if Ortiz comes out and says he is ready and wants it. The fight happens
You mention Ortiz now because he is free and you are daring him to fight dude. It’s obvious
Don’t let hate get in the way of that
It’s funny
I only read for news but you seems to be on quite an agenda to discredit Joshua and Hearn
Considering wilder ducked Joshua even when 100-120m was offered, I would try to change the story up a bit to deflect
You don’t mention a fighter unless you want to fight them. It’s obvious they are daring Ortiz to fight
Wilder and fury don’t want Joshua and it’s clear from their actions, why does that upset you so much that you spread fake news ?
It’s not hearns or Joshua’s fault wilder doesn’t want to risk it allWell technically it's true that Wilder doesn't want to fight Joshua at the moment but it is not so clear that Ortiz doesn't. Those are Eddie Hearn's words and not Team Ortiz'.
Unless, I hear Luis Ortiz announce from his own lips that he needs more time and therefore he won't be available by June 1st then I would have to call bullshit on what Edward is saying. It's because he is only telling us what he thinks what we want to hear by bringing up Luis Ortiz' name.
He knows that is the next big replacement fight that the public wants to see if there is no Jarrell Miller. However, he said he wasn't ready. Now whose words were those? His or theirs? Given Eddie's credibility we will never know.
Since Eddie Hearn is such a proven liar; It's very hard for me to believe a single word that comes from his mouth.
By me being an American I have non biased and non partial point of view of him. It's hard for you because he is your compatriot who provide you guys with hours of entertainment
Thank God I'm not an Englishman because I have a non biased point of view of Eddie Hearn. I don't hang on his every word as truth. His compatriots cannot do this because he provide you guys with entertainment.
All I am hearing from him is a lot of spin and talking points from your typical promoter and salesman. After all, technically he is a salesman and he has to do whatever is necessary to sale tickets, pay per views and put meat in the seats.
I've been observing Eddie Hearn since 2017; During the beginning of the Wilder/Joshua negotiations. What I have observed since that time is that he would rather tell the public what they want to hear rather than telling them the truth.
For instance, he never had any real intentions of staging Joshua/Wilder for 2018. His intentions all along was to stage that fight for 2019. However, he didn't tell us that because he didn't want us to know. He used the art of deception in order to deceive us all.
Yeah, Eddie fools everybody except Wilder fanboys and the LDBC. They are the only people smart enough to see through his deceit. The rest of the world are basically retards.
Where did the idea that AJ only fights easy opponents come from? He already beat a much better opponent in Wlad...
Even Povetkin is a more dangerous fighter than Ortiz. Meanwhile Wilder is fighting Breazeale and the same people criticising Joshua say nothingHow much are you willing to admit that Eddie had not reached out to Team Ortiz as a possible replacement for Jarrell Miller?
Moreover, how much are you willing to admit that Luis Ortiz would not be Miller's replacement on June 1st?
I have one last question; If Deontay Wilder was to defeat Wladimir Klitschko once he makes his comeback will you give him full credit for the win?
I am so Goddamned tired of hearing Eddie Hearn's Bullshit lies.
It’s funny
I only read for news but you seems to be on quite an agenda to discredit Joshua and Hearn
Considering wilder ducked Joshua even when 100-120m was offered, I would try to change the story up a bit to deflect
You don’t mention a fighter unless you want to fight them. It’s obvious they are daring Ortiz to fight
Wilder and fury don’t want Joshua and it’s clear from their actions, why does that upset you so much that you spread fake news ?
It’s not hearns or Joshua’s fault wilder doesn’t want to risk it all
If you don't want to fight somebody, you don't start talking about them in interviews and telling the media they are your No1 choice.Thank God I'm not an Englishman because I have a non biased point of view of Eddie Hearn. I don't hang on his every word as truth. His compatriots cannot do this because he provide you guys with entertainment.
All I am hearing from him is a lot of spin and talking points from your typical promoter and salesman. After all, technically he is a salesman and he has to do whatever is necessary to sale tickets, pay per views and put meat in the seats.
I've been observing Eddie Hearn since 2017; During the beginning of the Wilder/Joshua negotiations. What I have observed since that time is that he would rather tell the public what they want to hear rather than telling them the truth.
For instance, he never had any real intentions of staging Joshua/Wilder for 2018. His intentions all along was to stage that fight for 2019. However, he didn't tell us that because he didn't want us to know. He used the art of deception in order to deceive us all.
I think Ortiz has been in Haymon's protective custody.
Didn't you notice he's been on undercards on PBC cards?
Who else is feeding him leftovers other than Haymon?
Team Ortiz likes it very much.
Exactly, Eddie Hearn isn't crazy. They knew Miller was a soft touch who offered very little to no threat to AJ. That's why they took the fight. However, with Ortiz it's a whole different ball game. Not only do you have an opponent who can punch but also who can box.
Where did the idea that AJ only fights easy opponents come from? He already beat a much better opponent in Wlad...
Even Povetkin is a more dangerous fighter than Ortiz. Meanwhile Wilder is fighting Breazeale and the same people criticising Joshua say nothing
Honestly, I'm a cynic; and the cynic in me tells me that Eddie Hearn really doesn't want Luis Ortiz as a replacement opponent for Anthony Joshua on that June 1st date at MSG, because it's too risky and dangerous. It's a fight that he could lose and possibly by TKO.
If you don't want to fight somebody, you don't start talking about them in interviews and telling the media they are your No1 choice.