Joshua doesn't really want the WBC to force the Wilder fight.

Joshua is not the A side for Wilder in America.

Glad to see you back using your original name instead of using multiple alts :wave:. I personally don't believe either of them want the fight at this time. They had so many chances to sit down, but all we got was a bunch of media bickering. I hate this attitude. Now that Deontay has blatantly ducked and is being abandoned by almost all of his few dozen remaining supporters, the narrative has switched from completely blaming AJ to blaming both sides. I'm not having that. Hearn and Joshua been making overtures to this loudmouth phoney for 2 years. They (Deyontay's side) even said themselves that Hearn is begging for the fight. Saying stuff like "they had so many chances to sit down.." suggests that Joshua was unwilling to. WTF don't you Ducker fans get? Finkel would not even allow Wilder to answer phone calls or e mails. This is not 'they', this is Ducking Deontay and Finkel 100% to blame.

I agree that they were ducks. I don't agree that's the only definition of ducking though, because it can't apply to unification fights. Yes it can. Kovalev asked to fight for the WBC diamond title and asked the WBC to order a unification. The WBC said no problem. Then Kovalev ducked the purse bid. Wilder just gave the same response after receiving a very good, concrete offer for a fight he says he wants. No, no, let's wait a year or two. That's a duck. You have no idea if it was a good offer. The devil's in the details. As for waiting a year or two, it's Barry Hearn who said Joshua should wait. All Wilder said is the fight gets bigger as they wait. Is still prefers not waiting. Whereas Hearn believes the fight gets EASIER if they wait. Big difference.

That's what ducking usually is. You're supposed to face someone and you simply refuse. Mike Tyson was ordered to face Lennox Lewis, but he ducked him and gave up the WBC title to avoid Lewis. Riddick Bowe was ordered to face Lennox Lewis, but he ducked him and gave up the WBC title to avoid Lewis. Both fighters thought they would lose and gave up their belts rather than allowing the world to see who was better. Wilder vs. Fury was ordered and Wilder said hell yeah let's do it. Fury said, no no, let's wait a year or two. That's a duck. I agree that they were ducks. I don't agree that's the only definition of ducking though, because it can't apply to unification fights. Wilder just gave the same response after receiving a very good, concrete offer for a fight he says he wants. No, no, let's wait a year or two. That's a duck.

Your evidence of him not ducking is that he takes fights when he is ordered to? That's big of him! That's what ducking usually is. You're supposed to face someone and you simply refuse. Mike Tyson was ordered to face Lennox Lewis, but he ducked him and gave up the WBC title to avoid Lewis. Riddick Bowe was ordered to face Lennox Lewis, but he ducked him and gave up the WBC title to avoid Lewis. Both fighters thought they would lose and gave up their belts rather than allowing the world to see who was better. Wilder vs. Fury was ordered and Wilder said hell yeah let's do it. Fury said, no no, let's wait a year or two. That's a duck.

hahaha wbc, wba, ibf always dropping truth on these guys...and they get soooooo pissy...and look at the replies form the usual suspects as usual AJ and his people blowing smoke up everyones bum bum and theyre loving it! theyre like "more smoke more smoke...gimme the pipe too while yer at it"....AJ out here talkin bout how he might use the wbc to force it when the OP reveals hell never do it......as usual AJ and his side is all talk "the 50 million dollar deal is a publicity stunt" screams hearn and they believe him.......but DAZN shouts "heres 100 mil deontday even if you lose to brezeale" and these guys yuck it up ....lol

Translation: There's no way Winkel would sit down with Hearn and negotiate peacefully. Anthony Joshua's frustration is meaningless. Wilder don't want the fight unless it's 50/50. This proves my point in my thread. Luis Ortiz is the man to beat. Beating Ortiz will get you all these entitlements Deontay is getting.

Wilder would take the fight in a heartbeat if the WBC ordered it. He was willing to fight in Russia. Willing to give Fury an immediate rematch. Wilder has never ducked anything. Your evidence of him not ducking is that he takes fights when he is ordered to? That's big of him! What about when it's just offered to him? Well we know don't we? Because it literally just happened.

I've never used alts. I had to use a temporary name I never killed him your honor, I just stabbed him until he wasn't breathing anymore.

I actually wish Joshua would take this route, I don't want to wait until Wilder decides it's the right time to fight Joshua.

I've never used alts. I had to use a temporary name' That's literally an alt :lol1:

Man this website is for boxing fans not for people that get paid (or pretends to) to post here. You ruin this place. :haha::rofl: you are the last clown who should be crying about someone ruining the site.:fest30:

Lol ok...won’t be getting involved in this. Sound like some knit picking going on. haha yeah. When someone has you on block, you're not able to respond to their threads. I usually just get annoyed, but OP takes it a step further and typically will make a thread to counter it.

Man this website is for boxing fans not for people that get paid (or pretends to) to post here. You ruin this place.

I think he's just responding to this retardation https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=810273 Lol ok...won’t be getting involved in this. Sound like some knit picking going on.

So what your saying is Joshua should force the we be crooks trinket but NOT accept the 50/50 purse bid, and if he wanted to force the fight he would have... You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. There is another thread where Joshua is supposedly saying he might ask the WBC to force the fight. I'm simply pointing out that due to the 50/50 split, he wouldn't actually want the WBC to force the fight and if he wanted them to, he would have done it already. I'm not saying he should force it. I'm just saying he's lying about considering asking. He knows it would be 50/50, which is why he hasn't asked.

So what your saying is Joshua should force the we be crooks trinket but NOT accept the 50/50 purse bid, and if he wanted to force the fight he would have... You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I think he's just responding to this retardation https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=810273

So what your saying is Joshua should force the we be crooks trinket but NOT accept the 50/50 purse bid, and if he wanted to force the fight he would have... You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Glad to see you back using your original name instead of using multiple alts :wave:. I personally don't believe either of them want the fight at this time. They had so many chances to sit down, but all we got was a bunch of media bickering. I've never used alts. I had to use a temporary name while the unbanning of this name was negotiated. I have revealed my true identity and background to the admin and proven I am a promoter, etc. So I've been unbanned and no longer need to use the other temporary name. Wilder would take the fight in a heartbeat if the WBC ordered it. He was willing to fight in Russia. Willing to give Fury an immediate rematch. Wilder has never ducked anything.

If Joshua really wants the WBC to force the Wilder fight, it's very simple. Ask the WBC to make Joshua vs. Miller for the WBC diamond belt. They'd gladly do it. If Joshua wins, he can then request a fight with the WBC world champion, which the WBC would gladly approve. But in a World champion vs. Diamond champion fight, it's going to be a 50/50 purse split. Which Wilder would gladly accept, he'd send the fight to purse bid and either PBC wins and the fight goes on PPV, or Hearn wins and it goes on DAZN. Either way, if it's a 50/50 split, Wilder will gladly fight with no rematch clause with the fight being sold to the highest bidder. However, we know Joshua would never accept that. Nor should he. He's the A-side and it'd be crazy to do a 50/50 purse bid fight with no rematch clause. So don't let Joshua fool you when he says he wants the WBC to force the fight. He doesn't. If he did, he would have done it already. Glad to see you back using your original name instead of using multiple alts :wave:. I personally don't believe either of them want the fight at this time. They had so many chances to sit down, but all we got was a bunch of media bickering.