Sources: Wilder rejects 100 million DAZN offer

So you are saying that you believe he did enough to win the fight and you are saying you believe he didnt do enough to win the fight. Got you. So you are saying even though he did enough he had to do more to get the judges to give him the fight. Which means you are saying Wilder didnt do enough to win the fight but Wilder didnt need to do enough to win the fight because even though Fury did enough Fury didnt do enough. Is that not what a robbery is?All, I am saying is that I had Fury winning a very close fight by the slimmest of margins on my unofficial scorecard. However at the same, there were so many close rounds which I scored that possibly could have easily gone to Deontay Wilder. I scored most of the close rounds to Fury on just on ring generalship alone. Not that they were dominant rounds but I thought Fury's ring generalship in making Wilder missing punches Wildly carried the round and day for him. However, make no mistake about it; Wilder was yet still the aggressor and the busier of the two fighters. He just wasn't the effective aggressor in my judgement. However, at the same time I believe that the judges got it right this time. I was only less than a point or two off from the official judges scorecard. Obviously with their trained eyes they saw things that I missed. Lastly, make no mistake about it. Fury could have and should have done a lot more in order to win that fight more decisively. However, he was very reluctant in doing so because the fight was so close and was hanging in the balances. Lets just hope that Fury has learned his lesson the next time he fights Deontay Wilder again.

So you are saying that you believe he did enough to win the fight and you are saying you believe he didnt do enough to win the fight. Got you. So you are saying even though he did enough he had to do more to get the judges to give him the fight. Which means you are saying Wilder didnt do enough to win the fight but Wilder didnt need to do enough to win the fight because even though Fury did enough Fury didnt do enough. Is that not what a robbery is? All, I am saying is that I had Fury winning a very close fight by the slimmest of margins on my unofficial scorecard. However at the same, there were so many close rounds which I scored that possibly could have easily gone to Deontay Wilder. I scored most of the close rounds to Fury on just on ring generalship alone. Not that they were dominant rounds but I thought Fury's ring generalship in making Wilder missing punches Wildly carried the round and day for him. However, make no mistake about it; Wilder was yet still the aggressor and the busier of the two fighters. He just wasn't the effective aggressor in my judgement. However, at the same time I believe that the judges got it right this time. I was only less than a point or two off from the official judges scorecard. Obviously with their trained eyes they saw things that I missed. Lastly, make no mistake about it. Fury could have and should have done a lot more in order to win that fight more decisively. However, he was very reluctant in doing so because the fight was so close and was hanging in the balances. Lets just hope that Fury has learned his lesson the next time he fights Deontay Wilder again.

This always happens with fights of this magnitude. No one wants to leave money on the table. Everyone wants their piece of the pie and maximize their value. That's why fights this size are always so hard to make. DAZN isn't going anywhere. The offer will still be there a couple fights from now. Probably faaaar more..what if wilder or joshua loses before that. nothing is guaranteed.

Why question someone's abilities when you don't have the balls do something about it ? Don't you realize that exposes you as a punk? Like I said Larry another punk ass on here may be to far right now but what's your excuse , your right next door ? Unless you are willing to test that hook , take a seat and ........ :bryce: you are welcome to come down to newark anytime puto

No what pisses me off is when English fans say that Fury won by a shutout or was robbed when nothing suggests to the contrary. Or could have been further from the truth. The truth is that it was a very close fight which I had Tyson winning by the slimmest of margins. However, he didn't win it because he didn't try hard enough. The 114-112 or a 114 113 score sounds just about right to me. However, the official judges scored it 7-5 Wilder, 8-4 Fury & 7-5 Fury. Which the latter score was given to him by the British judge. All Fury had to do was to show just a little bit more sense of urgency by letting his hands go and throwing more punches. Then he would have easily won the WBC world heavyweight title by winning on the British judge's scorecard. However, the frustrating part of it to me is that he didn't want it badly enough or try hard enough or was hungry enough in order to get down in the trenches to take Wilder's title away from him. In addition, the three judges sensed that also; Which is why they scored the fight the way they did. You British guys seem to be in denial that Fury couldn't do just a little bit more in order to win that fight. All I am hearing is just excuses from you guys on why Tyson Fury didn't win the fight. So you are saying that you believe he did enough to win the fight and you are saying you believe he didnt do enough to win the fight. Got you. So you are saying even though he did enough he had to do more to get the judges to give him the fight. Which means you are saying Wilder didnt do enough to win the fight but Wilder didnt need to do enough to win the fight because even though Fury did enough Fury didnt do enough. Is that not what a robbery is?

But when Showtime have not even tried to talk and negotiate a superfight what other alternative is there? Deyonce has never shown any intention of fighting Joshua. Ultimately it comes down to this: DAZN have offered to Wilder guaranteed purses and fights with Breazeale and Joshua. Showtime have offered to Joshua nothing since that PR stunt $50m. I just want to see the damn fight and Wilder appears to be doing nothing to make it happen. This always happens with fights of this magnitude. No one wants to leave money on the table. Everyone wants their piece of the pie and maximize their value. That's why fights this size are always so hard to make. DAZN isn't going anywhere. The offer will still be there a couple fights from now. Probably faaaar more..

Well think about it man. DAZN is willing to offer Wilder $100mm before AJ has even fought once in the US. That means $100mm is the baseline value for the unification fight(s). That's the floor. The ceiling is obviously much higher as AJ continues to build his name in the US and moves towards unification. Locking in a price now could mean Wilder leaves millions on the table in an eventual superfight. It would be sheer idiocy to agree to this deal now.. But when Showtime have not even tried to talk and negotiate a superfight what other alternative is there? Deyonce has never shown any intention of fighting Joshua. Ultimately it comes down to this: DAZN have offered to Wilder guaranteed purses and fights with Breazeale and Joshua. Showtime have offered to Joshua nothing since that PR stunt $50m. I just want to see the damn fight and Wilder appears to be doing nothing to make it happen.

OK. I can see you are really butthurt that Wilder has made all his fanboys and himself look like a massive chicken. So i should leave you to your bitter hatred.No what pisses me off is when English fans say that Fury won by a shutout or was robbed when nothing suggests to the contrary. Or could have been further from the truth. The truth is that it was a very close fight which I had Tyson winning by the slimmest of margins. However, he didn't win it because he didn't try hard enough. The 114-112 or a 114 113 score sounds just about right to me. However, the official judges scored it 7-5 Wilder, 8-4 Fury & 7-5 Fury. Which the latter score was given to him by the British judge. All Fury had to do was to show just a little bit more sense of urgency by letting his hands go and throwing more punches. Then he would have easily won the WBC world heavyweight title by winning on the British judge's scorecard. However, the frustrating part of it to me is that he didn't want it badly enough or try hard enough or was hungry enough in order to get down in the trenches to take Wilder's title away from him. In addition, the three judges sensed that also; Which is why they scored the fight the way they did. You British guys seem to be in denial that Fury couldn't do just a little bit more in order to win that fight. All I am hearing is just excuses from you guys on why Tyson Fury didn't win the fight.

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/26113613/espn-world-fame-100-2019 Wilder is higher than Joshua and Canelo on the most famous 100 athletes list according to this list. That's what one high-profile fight in the US can do for you. Fury at 39..

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/26113613/espn-world-fame-100-2019 Wilder is higher than Joshua and Canelo on the most famous 100 athletes list according to this list.

Why can't the sanctioning bodies have powers to revoke a belt from a champion who fails to unify??? Huh? Who exactly is refusing to unify? And sanctioning bodies take a belt away if you don't fight your mandatory....That is when they do call for it.

Rumours online that he has rejected the deal. He will stay with pbc/fox/showtime for the brazealle fight and look at his options again after the fight. Wilder is very loyal. Edit: Confirmed by Mike Coppinger: https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1106287470570803202?s=19 Why can't the sanctioning bodies have powers to revoke a belt from a champion who fails to unify???

If Deyonce turns this down then what is his own roadmap? Let's be generous. vs Breazeale on SHO PPV maybe they can secure him between $8m and $15m. vs Joshua on SHO PPV maybe they can earn him $40m (60/40 split for Joshua) vs Joshua rematch on SHO PPV maybe $60m (60/40 split for Wilder if he wins). So maybe he can still get his 100mill over 3 fights IF Showtime guarantee him the Joshua fights. Joshua could just leave Deyonce out in the cold if he goes this route. Look at Dillian Whyte right now. He overplayed his hand and lost the big money fight against Joshua and the final eliminator against Breazeale. The same thing can happen to Deyonce if he turns his back on DAZN now. Joshua can just go fight Usyk, Whyte, Klitschko or Fury after Miller instead. Joshua can make money without Wilder. Wilder cannot make money without Joshua. That's the bottom line. The only damn way Wilder fights Joshua on a PBC show is if they GUARANTEE Joshua maybe $80m+, and if they do that Deyonce surely has to take a pay cut. Well think about it man. DAZN is willing to offer Wilder $100mm before AJ has even fought once in the US. That means $100mm is the baseline value for the unification fight(s). That's the floor. The ceiling is obviously much higher as AJ continues to build his name in the US and moves towards unification. Locking in a price now could mean Wilder leaves millions on the table in an eventual superfight. It would be sheer idiocy to agree to this deal now..

How is Wilder getting 7 million vs Breazeale with no PPV ? I don't know. But on PPV he would take a bigger cut than he did against Fury so maybe with 200k buys he still does ok.

If Deyonce turns this down then what is his own roadmap? Let's be generous. vs Breazeale on SHO PPV maybe they can secure him between $8m and $15m. vs Joshua on SHO PPV maybe they can earn him $40m (60/40 split for Joshua) vs Joshua rematch on SHO PPV maybe $60m (60/40 split for Wilder if he wins). So maybe he can still get his 100mill over 3 fights IF Showtime guarantee him the Joshua fights. Joshua could just leave Deyonce out in the cold if he goes this route. Look at Dillian Whyte right now. He overplayed his hand and lost the big money fight against Joshua and the final eliminator against Breazeale. The same thing can happen to Deyonce if he turns his back on DAZN now. Joshua can just go fight Usyk, Whyte, Klitschko or Fury after Miller instead. Joshua can make money without Wilder. Wilder cannot make money without Joshua. That's the bottom line. The only damn way Wilder fights Joshua on a PBC show is if they GUARANTEE Joshua maybe $80m+, and if they do that Deyonce surely has to take a pay cut.

Fuck that! If you are too afraid of putting your ass, career, health, legacy and life on the line then get the fuck out the ring Goddamn it because obviously you don't belong there. Find yourself another fucking job or occupation where you won't have to take on as many risks there! You got to be a soldier to step between that squared circle. Shit! OK. I can see you are really butthurt that Wilder has made all his fanboys and himself look like a massive chicken. So i should leave you to your bitter hatred.

Damage control at its best with you ALL the time. Your a mod now stop posting FAKE news idiot! CANT you read on the other threads which CLEARLY have Finkel reporting that 100 million in ball park numbers for THREE fights ? Finkel himself said the 100 million was right and correct . Wilder is worth 7 million tops. You have the brain of a pea ,Wilder is being offered ridiculously amount of money and your rambling on like the Wilder fan you are about why is he being offered that much to make the fight only bc he rejected it ,which once AGAIN shows hes ducking a guaranteed Joshua fight, what a fool you really are . :sigh1: did you learn how to throw a proper hook yet?

Exactly. Absolutely crazy to defend such ducking. They made their mind up from day one when he starting this “They ducking me” campaign and whatever is done or said is twisted so that he’s getting ducked. Funny how boxing fans do that. Fans always think their guy is being avoided and the guys they hate are duckers. $100m is the worst duck of the last 50 years (or more) without anything coming close. Wilder never wanted the fight. I thought both sides were playing the game but at this point it’s obvious Wilder never wanted it. Yeah when you cannot even take time out to actually think, like why would you turn down 100m for three fights? I mean maybe showtime/Fox/Haymon are going to match that deal (Very unlikely). But at least ask questions, but these guys are lock and loaded, ready for the spin. They put the spin in everything, some of them even started saying maybe it’s because “Joshua’s name isn’t in those theee fights” lol.... Yeah like they would give you 100m to fight nobodies, and even if they are dumb enough to do so, then take it and do your three fights and take their 100m. For a guy that isn’t even worth 5m on his own it’s a shame. His only bargaining chip is that belt, and coming out of that WBC/Showtime/Haymon protection program would leave him expose to the real world. So am not surprised about the reports of him turning down the money. Without that belt he would literally be Luis Ortiz. But he is lucky that his passport is blue.

Fury clearly beat Wilder so he obviously belongs there more than Wilder does. I must admit that I was very impressed with Fury's overall performance as one of the official judges scored it 7-5 Fury, while the other scored it 7-5 Wilder and the other scored 8-4 Fury. I don't know what fight you English fanboys were watching because all the officials scored the fight with in a single round of each other. The fight was very close and could have gone either way. No, it was not a blowout or a robbery The British judge who scored it a Draw 113 -113 felt that Fury didn't do enough, want it enough or wasn't hungry enough to give him that fight. Which was why he scored it the way he did. He showboated too much, stuck out his tongue too much and put both of his gloves behind his back too much in order to win that fight. He just wasn't busy enough. You have to throw punches in order to win a World heavyweight championship bout. However, be that as it may. He now has a blemish on his otherwise spotless record a draw; For just simply being an asshole inside the ring.

it's only because he's a gaymon fighter. pbc pr team will try and come to the rescue! if he left for good and signed with dazn or espn they would hate him and call him a bum! That’s true. He’d go from potential GOAT, inventor of boxing and savior to mankind to a bum in no time.