Would Garcia beating Spence be the best win of the modern era?

Vernon Forrest dominating Mosley was another...or mayorga stopping Forrest for that matter. Those were great upsets, but I'm referring to the magnitude of this fight being an upset in relation to, probably, the latest most significant upset at welterweight. On a side note, the Marquez KO of Pacquiao is a great win, in an unexpected way, but Marquez had already proved he could compete with Pacquiao even at 147. People thought Mosley was crazy in thinking he could beat Margarito, after Margarito had successfully beat down Cotto, who seemed to have surpassed Mosely at the time. I see a similar level of shock from that fight, if Mikey pulls it off

Best win of the modern era? I don't know about all that, but I do agree with Tim Bradley that if Mikey wins he MUST be considered the current pound for pound best fighter in the world, easily.

Not really, its a very good win, but what has Spence done? He has fought one good opponent and only holds one belt. Spence's resume so far is pretty much garbage.

It'd be enormous. Depending on what Spence does in the future, it would be a modern day, lesser version of Duran-Leonard. I don't see it happening though.

salido over loma lol naw j/k but other fights i thought were nice wins (not best of era of course, but still great wins) were rigo over donaire and garcia over khan and lucas because of where those favorites were at that time of the fight

Canelo moving up and battering the MW monster has to be up there. Before Canelo, GGG had KO or KD 25 opponents, only for Canelo to fight him, push him back, and bust his face and body.

if spence took out everyone in welter then I'd say sure, but spence's best win is still over a broken brook i would say marquez over pacquiao in their 4th fight but it's too bad marquez had to be on the roids to do it don't know about "best" but pacquiao over fishnets needs to be up there mainly because pacquiao was never supposed to win and he not only won, but pretty much destroyed him that he didn't even want to come off his stool. fishnets was the favorite and a lot of people said his jab alone would beat pacquiao. I don't buy the "weight drain" because pacquiao was coming from 135 and fishnets 154, are they not supposed to meet in the middle and was pacquiao supposed to go from 35 to 54? Folks also forget fishnets was preparing to go back to 47 since that's where the rematch with the woman beater *floyd was going to take place. Prior to the fight there were no talks of fishnets being over the hill weight drained etc, it was only after he got destroyed folks started to say that

LOL get out if you think Ward beating Kovalev is better than Garcia beating Spence. I don't know where to begin to explain how silly that is. Not only does Garcia become P4P#1 if he beats Spence, but he becomes P4P#1 through 10. He will be p4p by several country miles

I think it would probably be the most significant upset in the welterweight division since Mosley steamrolled Margarito. Vernon Forrest dominating Mosley was another...or mayorga stopping Forrest for that matter.

szeremeta beating ggg would be the best win of the modern era just look at the odds! :smashfrea:smashfrea:smashfrea

Marquez KO6 Pac for me.. I got to agree with this... That KO will be remembered in the boxing history books forever. Mikey beating Erroll would be a great victory but wouldnt be the best win in modern era...

Duran beating Iran Barkley to me was one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. He got hit flush by a huge Middleweight in his prime numerous times and took them. Barkley also showed some good boxing skills but Duran (37) put on a masterclass and dropped him. Duran was a beast.Barkley himself was a beast! So a past-prime Duran fighting way above his best weight, the way he fought Barkley, and that fabulous ending; that was a fight for the ages. Both men left it in the ring that night. Very, very few boxers today have Duran's mix of supreme skills, ring savvy, and grit.

Well, that's the question altogether. Is Spence THAT established? - one could argue that all Spence has done is beat Brook that dropped down 2 weight divisions and coming off eye surgery and a beating off GGG. But in terms of high profile fights, it's not often you get a fight with 2 supposed top quality operators that many have in the P4P top 10, and one of them jumps 2 divisions and on paper has all the odds stacked against them with few giving him a chance. Maybe modern era is the wrong way to put it. I meant in the past 10-15 years kind of thing.Mikey has already fought twice at 140 and won a world title at 140 so he is really only going up one weight class. Mikey weighed 149 on fight night for Easter while Spence weighed 156 on fight night for his last fight as announced on both shows. Mikey is clearly a huge lightweight who at 31 years old is probably much more comfortable fighting at 140 and now 147. Mikey said he plans to gain muscle and to weight about 155 in the ring with Spence. I think if Mikey can beat Spence it might he the most impressive win of the last ten years. I think the chance of him beating Spence is so unlikely it's not worth worrying about.

Any other wins that could be considered above it if Mikey won? taking into account going up in weight that much to beat a fighter like Spence No canelo vs fielding is the greatest so far

Yes but it be devalued somewhat because Spence would get completely trashed. That's very true. It goes back what what i said about Spence v Brook. If Spence loses to Garcia, you will get people saying Spence was never that good anyway, never fought top fighters and only beat a Brook coming off a loss/surgery/dropping too much weight, which i actually think there's some truth to. That's the thing, there's never any middle ground with boxing fans. You're either winning or a hype job.

Yes but it be devalued somewhat because Spence would get completely trashed.

Has either guy ever beat anyone in the top 25 P4P up to this point?

Marquez KO6 Pac for me..

Any other wins that could be considered above it if Mikey won? taking into account going up in weight that much to beat a fighter like Spence Duran beating Iran Barkley to me was one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. He got hit flush by a huge Middleweight in his prime numerous times and took them. Barkley also showed some good boxing skills but Duran (37) put on a masterclass and dropped him. Duran was a beast.

Touche. I’m a big Ward hater but that’s been the highest level matchup we’ve had in a while so I went with that. But it goes back to my question of when the modern era started. Generally I consider Ali as the beginning of the modern era. Id say Pacquiao beating Oscar would be better. But it’ll take hindsight to accurately judge the fight. We can look back on Oscar as being over the hill and weight drained. We don’t know where Spence will end up. If Miley destroys him and Spence goes on to still accomplish great things maybe it’ll look better in hindsight. Well, that's the question altogether. Is Spence THAT established? - one could argue that all Spence has done is beat Brook that dropped down 2 weight divisions and coming off eye surgery and a beating off GGG. But in terms of high profile fights, it's not often you get a fight with 2 supposed top quality operators that many have in the P4P top 10, and one of them jumps 2 divisions and on paper has all the odds stacked against them with few giving him a chance. Maybe modern era is the wrong way to put it. I meant in the past 10-15 years kind of thing.