If Garcia beats Spence where does he rank

Pound for pound right now ? Most definitely the top 3 right now

I would place him in the top three P4P if he beats Spence without controversy.

I'm not usually one to get involved with pound for pound discussions, but I wouldn't be able to put Garcia number 1 without beating Lomachenko.

Top 5 maybe even top 3.

With haters yep.... I seen the vid on your profile on Mayweather..love it. Many said Marquez over hill v him...then he sparked pacman...gave Bradley imo a defeat ....but over hill fighting Mayweather to haters..... Like when Calzaghe schooled Hopkins.....haters say Hopkins over hill...then Hopkins wins a title later...alongside Calzaghe v Eubank.......Eubank too old.... My point mate and you are bang on regarding the Brook is shot comment...is when Calzaghe made Eubank look crap....Eubank was not 43 like Hopkins....who I add later won a title proving he was not shot....past very best yes....shot nope...Eubank was 31......in prime.....and in the era of the slugger he did well.....Calzaghe would have punched his head off same if he was 25....31 and folk say Eubank shot?.....like they say both Marquez and cotto were.....ignoring the fact marquez then knocked pacman spark out and coto was a weight increase for Floyd?Then ignoring Mayweather age ...still beating all like Calzaghe???????....age aint a reason at 31...excuse is. My point tonight is people will add excuses for great boxers....facts do not need excused....Mayweather by FAR...best ever....Calzaghe by far best British ever... People forget Calzaghe and Floyd age still winning then offer excuses for guys at 31 doing chit v them......does not stack up...mint to see ya video on profile..made me smile.

Number one I say he has no chance

he'd be up there but would he really get the recognition or will it be he just exposed someone who's best win was over a broken kel brook

Good point and one worth discussing.. Brook was undefeated at this weight and trained like a Trojan.....now love or loathe brook was the real deal...I am not stating he was the best ever or close to but I am stating when they fought he was in his prime and was at home with the crowd including me backing him..Yes I lost money... Paterson retired the next fight...unsure what round but under 9.....Paterson you cant really argue is not a world class operator...he fought the best at the time...only suffering a ko to Matthysse.....I don't massively rate this guy btw that sparked him but power mint..... Spence pedigree with Brook....Bundu....Vargas in prime.......Paterson with only 1 ko defeat retired early says pedigree is amazing......this for me is not even debatable even with fact I hate the arrogant xxxx. Going back to the reply you stated....for me the division Spence in is the most competitive...I only know this as googled all ranks and got a few suprises.....about 15 fighters amazing but the pedigree of Spence puts him and Crawford top only my opinion... So if you can beat him moving up 2 weights...tell me a better eply than 50 words and give a reason with fair attitude not just 2 sentences ...

For me number 1 if he beats Spence convincingly

Tbe status

Definitely very close to the top. I would definitely put him in top 5, maybe even top 3.

I don't know enough on this weight tbh . I see Garcia moving up 2 weights which is out of this world.... He gives 3 inches away on height and 2 on reach...I had to google it lol. Spence is an amazing boxer who has it all ..he was getting out battled by Brook for 6 then Brook seemed to tire....but nevertheless this was Brooks country and credit to Spence....regardless of brooks eye he had him. I was hoping when I google Garcia I would see him at 5 8 not 5 6......Spence ability in ring with this is massive and reach may be only 2 inches but the actual height with his ability makes it imo almost impossible. This is a centre ring puncher moving up to fight a all round genius who can punch...I just feel to beat Spence you need to be on equal terms...at least...and Garcia height will pose massive issues as he is very come forward and fights in straight lines which will play into Spence hands . Credit to him for moving up but this is beyond mad....catchweight would have gave hope but unsure Spence could have made weight.... I am going for a ko for Spence with Garcia getting hit and barely winning 2 rounds. If Garcia wins how cant he be number 2 behind loma?.............he has to be...only Crawford I see beating Spence as he is so clever...so for Garcia to move up 2 weights and do it giving height and reach to him how can anyone say he is not top 2?..... Crazy....when I judge pound for pound I also judge weights and situ...I KNOW many have done more than 2 weights but the actual task at hand here v in many fans eyes the best in the division speaks for itself.

Undefeated, moves up two weight classes and beats the boogeyman at 147? No.1.

Somewhere above top 15.