I like how he said, "Non-Italian" like Italians aren't white.
The “non-Italian” comment was probably because he didn’t realize there’s been a plethora of great Jewish, Irish and other backgrounds too. I’m sure it’s a thread designed to mock. Probably part ignorance to say Italians aren’t “Caucasian” like Spaniards and Portuguese aren’t either but Slavics are lol..That’s even more dumb than saying “Egyptians aren’t African”.
It sort of backfired after thinking Willie Pep, Rocky Marciano and some Europeans like Calzaghe and Lomachenko are disqualified not knowing the success of careers of such legends as Greb, Walker, Conn, Leonard, Ross, Zale, Ketchel, MacFarland, Tunney etc; children of Irish (Walker, Tunney, MacFarland, Conn), Jewish European (mostly Russian like Leonard and Ross) , German (Greb), Polish (Ketchel and Zale) etc; immigrants.
I like how he said, "Non-Italian" like Italians aren't white.
Apparently not LOL. Growing up I got
many comments directed towards me about my not so apparent non whiteness..
GUYS I see Willie Pep on a lot of lists. Willie is an Italian American. His real name is Guglielmo Papaleo. His parents were born in Italy. So according to the OP he's off the list?
All-time it’s got to be Harry Greb based on resume. He has the greatest resume in the history of the sport and is no worse than a top 3 all-time.
Benny Leonard and Willie Pep are also two names on every historians top 10 lists. Mickey Walker can’t be too far off, surely no worse than top 12.
Now? Plant is probably it. White Americans just don’t get into the sport anymore. Back in the days there were so many Italians, Jewish and Irish getting into the sport and dominating.
Historically there's tons and many are among the absolute greatest of all-time.
Surefire top 10's
Harry Greb, Benny Leonard, Willie Pep
(Almost) certain top 20's
Barney Ross, Mickey Walker, Gene Tunney, Tony Canzoneri
Certain top 20-40 guys
Packey MacFarland, Billy Conn, Tommy Gibbons, Terry McGovern, Tommy Loughran
Certain top 40-60 guys
Jack Britton, Mike Gibbons, Stanley Ketchel, Tommy Ryan
Other notable greats
Jake LaMotta, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Abe Attell, Lou Ambers, Fritzie Zivic, Maxie Rosenbloom, Nonpareil Jack Dempsey, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Joey Maxim, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Joey Giardello, Teddy Yarosz, Pete Herman, Tony Zale
and many more.
greenk for really good post.
Non Hispanic or Non Italian! Just White, British, Irish, or any other Western European American!
How is he British, Irish or Western European if he's American?
Them NASCAR fans are too busy shooting up schools whilst the brothers take care of business in the ring stateside
Ok, so can we give the NASCAR boys a big thumbs up for their marksmanship ?:headbang:
Jack Dempsey?
I always thought he was african heritage because of his nickname 'kid blackie' but 3 people have mentioned him.
I don't really give a **** but he a whitey or blackie?
Them NASCAR fans are too busy shooting up schools whilst the brothers take care of business in the ring stateside
Yet another racist, anti American rant from the king of that bu!!shyte