Upcoming Wilder excuses for being a coward

Wilder's own words, "Hearn and Joshua are begging me to fight", so why on earth is Breazeale a priority all of a sudden? I get Fury even though it goes against his "one man, one champion, one face" thing because he got schooled and embarrassed by Fury but to totally dismiss Joshua (for a career high payday) and put Brezeale ahead of Joshua just screams duck. I'm enjoying seeing how Wilder fans are skirting around this. They are really showing to be dumber than him. To be fair there are many US based boxing channels now calling out Wilder for his ducking. That said, there are still a good many hangers on trying to rationalize the silence from Finkel and Wilder, which is bordering on gross unprofessionalism.

The possibilty of a unified, undisputed HW champion fighting on DAZN in the US is a nightmare scenario for Haymon and Espinoza at ST. Absolutely this. It's quite possible, Wilder being not very smart, that he is believing **** that Finkel is whispering in his ear to stop him from taking the fight. "Hey Doentay, we can get more money from these guys" "Hey Deontay, don't go to UK, you'll get robbed" "Leave this to me Deontay, this Hearn guy is trying to pick your pocket but I got this under control for ya." And so on. The yanks do not want a Brit coming into their turf and running things, and it is not a stretch of the imagination to think that Wilder is not afraid to fight, but is being manipulated to duck, which he is clearly doing. Either that, or he is plain scared of AJ, there's no other explanation. This fight should have been made, and Hearn and Joshua have moved heaven and earth trying to get Wilder to sign, all they get in return is silence.

where did I say it was bigger than AJ/Wilder or it was "slave wages"? Seems you have an agenda here. It isn't about the money as much as it is about control of the promotion and the event. It's why name fighters that are not necessarily the cash cow choose to fight for less money where they can control the environment . It's also relative. As many posters have said throughout the years its not how much but what percentage of the total. So while Manny and wilder, for example, were offered more than they ever made, they and their teams run the numbers and decide more is not a fair percentage of the overall take and they refuse the offer, which the a sides already expected. my only agenda here is having good boxing discussion while exposing the significantly flawed and hypocritical logic that wilder fans like to use to defend him. you mention control and promotions, but so far only one side is making legit offers and trying to have conversations. if its about controls or whatever else, then have the productive conversations and negotate properly. the whole percentage deal is a red herring for people that may not understand math. if he's making out over twice his max payday as the WBC heavyweight champ, chances are its not the equivalent of some meager percentage split. in any case, percentage split offers have been made already. wilder's team won't even respond. and when they do, it's with demands of 50-50 or at one point, 60-40 in wilder's favour. the real is out there, if people are willing to be honest with themselves.

I think a Fury rematch is a decent excuse. Many other Boxers would forget the rematch to get the chance to take on Joshua for his belts for a **** load of money. Actually i can only think of 1 who wouldnt. But Wilder and Fury fought to a draw (Fury won) unfinished business, a score to be settled. That is the only excuse i can accept. But Wilder is quite clearly ducking Joshua and even admitting it without using the actual word, when he says out loud, out of his own massive mouth in interviews posted all over the world via social media that he wants no part of Joshua and isnt interested in his belts how can we still scratch our heads wondering about who does and who doesnt want this fight. Wilders still talking about this rematch but we all know it isnt happening, its not come fully to the surface yet but Fury wants it later and he wants it in the UK and Wilder will refuse to travel. Breazeale v Wilder is already getting set in motion by Finkel although Breazeale and his team wont hear about this for a while yet.

Hearn and Joshua have back tracked on their statements so many times its a joke at this point. Your own countrymen Fury and Lennox Lewis call Anthony Joshua a coward. Yet his fans believe he is in the right lol. Wilder-Fury got made without an issue. Joshua and Hearn are jumping for joy they get to cash out one more fight and spin that Wilder ducked him. I hope he faces Dillian and Dillian catches him with something, then he can rematch Dillian a couple of more times.

Wilder contradicts himself. First he says he wants to be the only heavyweight champ. One name, one face. One champion. Next he says team AJ is begging him for a fight but he will rematch Fury instead. So he has the opportunity to go to England and become that one and only heavyweight champion if he wins and be well paid but he chooses to rematch Fury for less money instead.

Relax, the Wilder vs. Fury rematch is going to happen. Let's say that something bad occurs that derails the rematch. It will just be postponed... it's a big money fight and both parties want it. The rematch will eventually happen 100%. Worst case scenario... let's say that AJ vs. Whyte is signed, and then Fury vs. Wilder is called off due to an injury or promotional disagreement. Wilder then takes on Breazeale, so what? Breazeale and Whyte are pretty much the same based on their resumes. In terms of competition, AJ vs. Whyte is about equal to Wilder vs. Breazeale. These aren't the fights we want, but they're good warmups before the big showdown. Lol .. what? Are you being serious there?

He would have fought Breazeale by now, but the option of winning "the coveted lineal heavyweight title" :lol1: from Fury came up and they thought it would be easy work. When has Wilder shown any interest in fighting Breazele?

you know wilder and his team are going to wait for joshua to announce his next fight then say he's going to fight his mandatory. that's actually what i want to happen at this point. let Joshua fight ortiz, maybe in america, and let wilder go fight breazeale... AJ and wilder both fight previous opponents of the other. that's an interesting storyline if wilder keeps ducking. I personally think Team Joshua needs to move on with the Whyte fight, if he beats Whyte then fight Miller or Ortiz in America after that. Then hopefully the younger HW would be up for the test, if not Usyk would be at HW. No point in beating a dead horse with this Wilder BS. Any fighter with any ambition would want to unify their division, so far it’s everyone else’s fault and never Wilder fault since he has become champion at HW.

Relax, the Wilder vs. Fury rematch is going to happen. Let's say that something bad occurs that derails the rematch. It will just be postponed... it's a big money fight and both parties want it. The rematch will eventually happen 100%. Worst case scenario... let's say that AJ vs. Whyte is signed, and then Fury vs. Wilder is called off due to an injury or promotional disagreement. Wilder then takes on Breazeale, so what? Breazeale and Whyte are pretty much the same based on their resumes. In terms of competition, AJ vs. Whyte is about equal to Wilder vs. Breazeale. These aren't the fights we want, but they're good warmups before the big showdown.

but... i thought the wilder-fury fight was bigger than the wilder-joshua fight? wilder has been offered way more money than he made in a supposedly bigger wilder-fury fight. so if the offer is a BS deal and slave wages, then what does that make shelley finkel for paying him much less where did I say it was bigger than AJ/Wilder or it was "slave wages"? Seems you have an agenda here. It isn't about the money as much as it is about control of the promotion and the event. It's why name fighters that are not necessarily the cash cow choose to fight for less money where they can control the environment . It's also relative. As many posters have said throughout the years its not how much but what percentage of the total. So while Manny and wilder, for example, were offered more than they ever made, they and their teams run the numbers and decide more is not a fair percentage of the overall take and they refuse the offer, which the a sides already expected.

you know wilder and his team are going to wait for joshua to announce his next fight then say he's going to fight his mandatory. that's actually what i want to happen at this point. let Joshua fight ortiz, maybe in america, and let wilder go fight breazeale... AJ and wilder both fight previous opponents of the other. that's an interesting storyline if wilder keeps ducking.

There would be none, but ya'll did this last year with all this Breazeale talk and it never happened..So do you really wanna go down this road again? I thought he was supposed to have chosen Breazele last go around. He would have fought Breazeale by now, but the option of winning "the coveted lineal heavyweight title" :lol1: from Fury came up and they thought it would be easy work.

Come on Robbie keep it real. Context is what matters. If you offer me $150 k raise for my current job, I jump at it. If you offer a starting NFL QB $ 10 mil a year he tells you to f-ck off. I get that Wilder can do what others have done and take short money for the opportunity. In this modern era, we see guys like Manny, Wilder and GGG continue to fight as a sides until they get the best offer from the guys they are b sides to. but... i thought the wilder-fury fight was bigger than the wilder-joshua fight? wilder has been offered way more money than he made in a supposedly bigger wilder-fury fight. so if the offer is a BS deal and slave wages, then what does that make shelley finkel for paying him much less

Guarantee there justification for Wilder would be something along the lines of "b-b-b-but 50 mil doe" Even though that has nothing to do with todays negotiation. Hope he actually gets a fight with AJ or Fury though they all need to hurry up and get in the ring with eachother. Wilder's own words, "Hearn and Joshua are begging me to fight", so why on earth is Breazeale a priority all of a sudden? I get Fury even though it goes against his "one man, one champion, one face" thing because he got schooled and embarrassed by Fury but to totally dismiss Joshua (for a career high payday) and put Brezeale ahead of Joshua just screams duck. I'm enjoying seeing how Wilder fans are skirting around this. They are really showing to be dumber than him.

What reasons why this mouthpiece won't fight AJ, and his followers will actually think are acceptable reasons. There is actually no reason whatsoever to deny fans this fight, a Fury rematch is no excuse. I am just totally sick of the obviousness of this guy, and the fact that he still has a handful of 'fans' supporting his ducking. Thankfully there are so many calling him out now on youtube and elsewhere, it's all getting a bit embarrassing for him. I know he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but could it be that he is being manipulated by Finkel as a way of Finkel being bitter about all of Hearn's success? The possibilty of a unified, undisputed HW champion fighting on DAZN in the US is a nightmare scenario for Haymon and Espinoza at ST.

I think Wilder should go to the UK and do a damage control apology tour tbh... He won't go to the UK calling AJ out and "begging" for the fight, that's for sure.

His fans trying to defend him choosing Breazeale next is going to be hilariously bad. I thought he was supposed to have chosen Breazele last go around.

I found it interesting that he said Fury looks to be ducking him so he’s justifying potentially fighting Breazeale. That’s not a good look when you’ve got a guy who you said you’d fight for free because “it’s not about the money” is offering more than you made getting schooled by Fury. Seeing his fanboys justify ducking Fury or Joshua next will be rather hilarious. Guarantee there justification for Wilder would be something along the lines of "b-b-b-but 50 mil doe" Even though that has nothing to do with todays negotiation. Hope he actually gets a fight with AJ or Fury though they all need to hurry up and get in the ring with eachother.

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