Evander Holyfield was 208lb when he Ko'd Buster Douglas

YDKSAB....:fu2: I had to look at that acronym up because I don't speak idiot. I love how some 15 year old punk thinks someone who was an amateur boxer in the early 80s doesn't know a thing about boxing. I was always grateful that I never ran across Holyfield since we were amateurs at the same time. That man would have beaten my ass. Nice to meet you, thecomedian. Your name is apt. Though what's really funny is how little substance there is is between your ears...and your legs.

I was there too and at no point in Holyfields career was he considered a "light hitter". That's a straight up lie. Yeah he was... He was also a well known drug cheat, fighters been questioning him on peds and his refusal of extra drug testing since the 80s, exactly why Tyson made the request for extra testing... My mouth would love to say he was one of the baddest damn heavies, we know the truth on Evans, he went from dancing and boxing being a decision type fighter, to a stalker who threw vicious bombs in the trench with sluggers

RE Holyfield's power at HW. I think some are getting the timeline wrong. When he first moved up from CW, it was questioned if he'd bring his power up with him to HW. E.g., he went life and death in Qawi I. And Qawi is what 5'7"? But what a fighter he was. But after a little while at HW, no one doubted his power anymore.

what excuses. the draw is the fair decision. fury is lucky he wasn't waived off though. Lol it’s all good mate, nothing wrong with sticking your neck out and giving it a go and backing your fighter through tough times. Most people would hide after potential embarrassment Big Kovalev fan through the good and bad

The fact Wilder's fans act like he's a better fighter than Holyfield is hilarious. Do they know what Holyfield looks like? Wilders fans??? how many of them are saying this stuff?

Fury was saying in the buildup that punchers in the heavyweights typically don't have a long career. You can't take three to land one when the guys are this big and strong. His view was that you only go down that road when can't outbox someone. This is where the Wilder myth comes from. He might hit harder than most. But do we really think that other heavyweights couldn't hit harder? I reckon they just choose to box over throw bombs that might end the fight but could also expose them. Name your best heavyweights. Were they boxers or 'one punchers'? Wilder is exciting. He can win any fight, but he's levels below boxers.

I was there too and at no point in Holyfields career was he considered a "light hitter". That's a straight up lie. Nah I don't think it was man...I heard alot of people say that Holyfield was a light hitter...feather fisted...pillow hands. You name it

Holyfield wasn't a light puncher ever. He wasn't a heavyweight KO artist but he had solid power and good hand speed. Not a one punch artist but a guy who could certainly wobble you with a good shot. His power was the main reason he was able to move up from crusierweight. He was KOing guys like Dwight Muhammad Qawi - good fighters with solid chins. If he didn't have that power at cruiserweight he'd never been able to make the jump. He certainly wasn't a KO artist at heavy but then again his level of competition was amazingly high even as he jumped into the division. Holyfield was a high pressure fighter. He had okay power, but compared to the other big heavyweights, not really. Let's not forget he was also roided to the gills. Sparring partners gave stories that basically slated Wladimir and Foreman as probably the two hardest punchers. In Holyfield's regard, they said he was very active and gave them hell as soon as he stepped in the ring with them. Also: Qawi was a cruiserweight, and he gave Holyfield hell in their first fight to a very close decision (15 rounds of hell). Not to mention, Qawi was already 33 at that time...

Holyfield wasn't a light puncher ever. He wasn't a heavyweight KO artist but he had solid power and good hand speed. Not a one punch artist but a guy who could certainly wobble you with a good shot.. YDKSAB....:fu2:

Yes he was, at the time. I was there. Its true, I was there too.. :boxing:

I have to agree with you. I was there too and nobody every called Holyfield a light puncher. He wasn't rated as hard a puncher as Tyson or Lewis but he was considered a good puncher. Holyfield wasn't a light puncher ever. He wasn't a heavyweight KO artist but he had solid power and good hand speed. Not a one punch artist but a guy who could certainly wobble you with a good shot. His power was the main reason he was able to move up from crusierweight. He was KOing guys like Dwight Muhammad Qawi - good fighters with solid chins. If he didn't have that power at cruiserweight he'd never been able to make the jump. He certainly wasn't a KO artist at heavy but then again his level of competition was amazingly high even as he jumped into the division.

That's not what you said before. You said "light hitter." Holyfields power was always respectable. Nobody just walked through his punches and all of his opponents respected his punching power including Tyson who said Holyfield hit hard. Mercer and Moorer were not above Holyfield as punchers. I don't know where you got that from.I have to agree with you again. Holyfield hit just as hard as Mercer and Moorer. Tyson said Holyfield hit hard. Who would know better than Tyson who fought so many hard hitters.

Arnt you that smug prick who raved on about how wilder was going to destroy fury in three rounds. Well I bet you had to think of a lot of excuses after the fight putting your neck out like that lol what excuses. the draw is the fair decision. fury is lucky he wasn't waived off though.

I was there too and at no point in Holyfields career was he considered a "light hitter". That's a straight up lie.I have to agree with you. I was there too and nobody every called Holyfield a light puncher. He wasn't rated as hard a puncher as Tyson or Lewis but he was considered a good puncher.

He was a good puncher but I don't think he was pound for pound the best puncher. Better punchers for their pounds in my opinion would be Marciano 184 pounds, Dempsey 185 pounds, Louis 198 pounds, Wilder 214 pounds, Foreman 214 pounds,Tyson 220 pounds, Liston 214 pounds, Langford 165 pounds, Fitzimmons 165, Jack Johnson 192 pounds. Those are some men that fought in the heavyweight division who might have hit harder for their weight than hard hitting Holyfield. If you go below heavyweight their are many more like Bob Foster, GGG, Hearns, Trinidad, SRR etc. Remember Holyfield failed to KO many of the men he fought. His KO percentage was not that high compared to many others. That's not to say that KO percentage is the last word in measuring punching power but it's something to consider. I rate Holyfield as a good puncher and all around great fighter but certainly not the best pound for pound puncher of them all.

realistically Buster Douglas who fought Holyfield was the same level as Bermane Stiverne-in the rematch- Arnt you that smug prick who raved on about how wilder was going to destroy fury in three rounds. Well I bet you had to think of a lot of excuses after the fight putting your neck out like that lol

fighting a bigger man in boxing is always a risk no matter who it is, its as if you all dont want to give wilder credit for anything. of course other fighters have done it nobody ever said that its never been done. just a positive to take into consideration. Fair enough. I don't dislike or have no respect for Wilder. The thread was made partly tongue-in-cheek for the benefit of certain posters who only started watching boxing this weekend.

fighting a bigger man in boxing is always a risk no matter who it is, its as if you all dont want to give wilder credit for anything. of course other fighters have done it nobody ever said that its never been done. just a positive to take into consideration.

what wilder fan said he is a better fighter than holyfield?

Douglas was completely sober. fatass just didn't wanna get up. he was in the same condition as the 2nd Stiverne fight. And Wilder still did it better. He puts people to sleep. the power is not the same. Also left Adilson Rodrigues out with one punch. Watch that one as well. It'll be nice for you to witness some good fighters.