For me, I thought the first 4 rounds were close and could have went either way. Nobody dominated and Wilder could have been awarded any one of those rounds. From Round 5 or 6 on I thought Fury began to show his superior boxing skills and I thought he was beginning to dominate the fight but he then he got careless and got dropped in round 8 and then again in 12. I did not see this fight as a shutout or complete domination like others. Maybe my eyes are wrong but I didn't think some of the rounds were as clear as people were saying. Wilder could have reasonably won 2 or 3 of those first 4 or 5 rounds rounds.
Yup. Fury landed the clean effective punches and not only that his defense as he dodged and slipped and slide was phenomenal. Entertaining fight. Sad that another robbery happened.
He looked like he was trying to impersonate Joe ****er at Woodstock
Per round Fury landed more shots than Wilder did and dodged more shots per round than Wilder did.
How anyone thought Wilder won that (granted there are only a couple who do) must be smoking some good stuff!
For me, I thought the first 4 rounds were close and could have went either way. Nobody dominated and Wilder could have been awarded any one of those rounds. From Round 5 or 6 on I thought Fury began to show his superior boxing skills and I thought he was beginning to dominate the fight but he then he got careless and got dropped in round 8 and then again in 12. I did not see this fight as a shutout or complete domination like others. Maybe my eyes are wrong but I didn't think some of the rounds were as clear as people were saying. Wilder could have reasonably won 2 or 3 of those first 4 or 5 rounds rounds.
That’s exactly how I saw it.
I’m not American or UK.
I Admit I wanted Wilder to win and might of just been mainly watching what he was doing plus I didn’t score it but I just cannot see how everyone thinks it was a robbery.
I actually had Wilder winning.
I honestly didn’t think people would think it was so one sided.
That's precisely the problem though. You can get to 113-113 but you really have to be looking to give Wilder the benefit of the doubt on all close rounds. In other words you have to be a little biased.
That is the thing though if you score 1 round for Wilder you are going to score more than 1 because you liked that effort. That is how judging works you have to pick the things you like especially in rounds where not all that much happened. It is not like Fury was putting it on Wilder in a lot of rounds especially early on, so a lot if left to the eye of the beholder.
Fury could have done more better work and left it much less in doubt, that is on him.
It is pretty easy to give Wilder 3 rounds aside from the rounds with knockdowns as Fury was not doing much with the opportunities he created in about 6 rounds. Sure he was out boxing Wilder and making him miss but Wilder was the one doing work, mostly ineffective work but a lot of judges value that sort of effort especially if the other guy is not doing all that much work themselves.
Giving Wilder 7 rounds like the one judge did would be pretty difficult to argue but 113-113 is pretty easy to get to. That is on Fury though because he could have made those 6 rounds a lot more in his favor than he did with just a bit more effort offensively.
That's precisely the problem though. You can get to 113-113 but you really have to be looking to give Wilder the benefit of the doubt on all close rounds. In other words you have to be a little biased.
It is pretty easy to give Wilder 3 rounds aside from the rounds with knockdowns as Fury was not doing much with the opportunities he created in about 6 rounds. Sure he was out boxing Wilder and making him miss but Wilder was the one doing work, mostly ineffective work but a lot of judges value that sort of effort especially if the other guy is not doing all that much work themselves.
Giving Wilder 7 rounds like the one judge did would be pretty difficult to argue but 113-113 is pretty easy to get to. That is on Fury though because he could have made those 6 rounds a lot more in his favor than he did with just a bit more effort offensively.
You have to be kidding. Absolute worst case scenario for Fury is 115-111 (that's giving Wilder 3 rounds, two 10-8s and one benefit of the doubt). To give Wilder more than that you really have to be giving him ridiculous benefit of the doubt in close rounds. In other words, you have to be biased. Fury actually won the rounds he got knocked down in besides the knockdowns but not in a dominant way so he still loses both of those rounds 10-8. Besides all this, this is a robbery if there ever was one for one obvious reason: the judge giving Wilder 7 rounds was clearly paid off.
Thats another point, those two rounds i would like to see both fighters tally of punches landed. Because after the KD on both occasion Fury hurt Wilder and even press the action more than the tiring Wilder.
You have to be kidding. Absolute worst case scenario for Fury is 115-111 (that's giving Wilder 3 rounds, two 10-8s and one benefit of the doubt). To give Wilder more than that you really have to be giving him ridiculous benefit of the doubt in close rounds. In other words, you have to be biased. Fury actually won the rounds he got knocked down in besides the knockdowns but not in a dominant way so he still loses both of those rounds 10-8. Besides all this, this is a robbery if there ever was one for one obvious reason: the judge giving Wilder 7 rounds was clearly paid off.
The greatest comeback in history. He said he would outbox wilder and did. Fury win like I said hevwould. But I didn't take into account the judges robbing fury. I was thinking fury will outbox him so bad how can he be robbed it didn't make mathematical sense?
What was unreasonable is the judge who gave 7 rounds to wilder. I’d argue less with people who say wilder only won the 2 rounds he scored knockdowns in. Fury won.
Fury pretty much dominated the entire fight with the exception of the two KDs.
Yup. Fury landed the clean effective punches and not only that his defense as he dodged and slipped and slide was phenomenal. Entertaining fight. Sad that another robbery happened.
It's a little unreasonable but feasible. You would have to give him a split of the first 4 and then something between 5-8.
Fury just had the better jab, and I felt that decided most of the rounds, probably 9-3 8-4, 7-5 is getting a little unreasonable 6-6 is pretty unreasonable.
For me, I thought the first 4 rounds were close and could have went either way. Nobody dominated and Wilder could have been awarded any one of those rounds. From Round 5 or 6 on I thought Fury began to show his superior boxing skills and I thought he was beginning to dominate the fight but he then he got careless and got dropped in round 8 and then again in 12. I did not see this fight as a shutout or complete domination like others. Maybe my eyes are wrong but I didn't think some of the rounds were as clear as people were saying. Wilder could have reasonably won 2 or 3 of those first 4 or 5 rounds rounds.
100% agree. Fury only out landed Wilder by 13 punches.
Mix in the (2) knock downs and you have a close fight. Absolutely cool with people saying Fury won the fight. Not cool with "boxing is dead", "robbery", blah blah blah.
I can see it being scored as a draw on a card.
But that's not what decided the result.
It was a bloke scoring it for Wilder.
So, no. I can't fathom it. Three blokes can't score that way without interference.
He gave Wilder a 4 point gap over the first 4 rounds. The others had 3-1 to Fury.