The entire point of Hearn luring and signing US fighters was that he had access to all these dates and money from DAZN and was supposed to be the exclusive promoter on DAZN. Now we see that's not the case with Golden Boy and Canelo going around Hearn and signing their own deal with DAZN that has nothing to do with Hearn.
So if you are a US fighter why sign with Hearn? Golden Boy is a bigger and better promoter that already has US on lock and now has access to DAZN dates and money. Am I missing something here? How is this good for Hearn getting other US fighters to sign with him instead of just deal with DAZN or sign with Golden Boy who has a proven track record in the US Market?
Have you seen the Golden Boy stable lately? Aside from Canelo its pretty weak. They'res a reason why many of the GB cards recently have been in small casinos on ESPN2 or facebook. DAZN gave Oscar 10 dates. Hearn is guaranteed more dates than Golden Boy.
100x this. GB has Canelo, and they have some great prospects...but that's basically it. Everyone signed to GBP in the 154-168 range not named Mungia is there as Canelo enhancement talent. This will get some talent to swap along with get some exposure to those prospects.
As long as DAZN doesn't show entire 5 hour GBP cards :lol1:
The GB stable as a whole is pretty weak. I think DAZN just wanted Canelo and agreed to throw Oscar some dates in order to seal the deal. DAZN is in the content game though I guess and this Golden Boy deal means more content for DAZN.
WEll it’s a bit of a win win really for them, having extra dates isn’t a bad thing even if fringe fighters really!
The entire point of Hearn luring and signing US fighters was that he had access to all these dates and money from DAZN and was supposed to be the exclusive promoter on DAZN. Now we see that's not the case with Golden Boy and Canelo going around Hearn and signing their own deal with DAZN that has nothing to do with Hearn.
So if you are a US fighter why sign with Hearn? Golden Boy is a bigger and better promoter that already has US on lock and now has access to DAZN dates and money. Am I missing something here? How is this good for Hearn getting other US fighters to sign with him instead of just deal with DAZN or sign with Golden Boy who has a proven track record in the US Market?
I think DAZN & GBP/Canelo can eventually become a smart move for some US based boxers. If GBP allows his prospects to fight in the UK and on DAZN they may actually make more money and more fans. The UK has loyal boxing fans and if u open up the waters a bit, it gives fighters exposure that they may get elsewhere.
Outside Canelo which is huge GB has tons of young studs Ryan Garcia (prospect of the year 2017 headlining drawing huge crowds already likely the next cash cow in boxing), Vergil Ortiz (leading candidate for prospect of the year for 2018), Romero Duno, Travell Mazion, Diego De La Hoya, Manuel Robles III, Rashidi Ellis, Alexis Roacha
Along with established current or former world champs caliber fighters like Jaime Munguia, Jorge Linares, David Lemieux, Francisco Vargas, Alberto Machado, Rey Vargas, Angel Acosta, Jojo Diaz, Sadam Ali, Jesus Rojas, Antonio Orozco.
There are also reports that they are in the process of signing the next mexican stud Eduardo Hernandez
I would take their roster over Hearns US roster plus they have actually proven they can build US stars and promote in the US market, fill US venues. Hearn is a total unknown with no US fighters and the one lure he had was DAZN and their check book. Well without that why not either sign with Golden Boy or try and make your own deal with DAZN going over his head like Canelo and Golden Boy did.
What he said. I think cats are sleeping on Golden Boy’s stable a bit.
More dates means more activity. That's one benefit.
How long ago did Hearn tell the world about this deal? He's had the lure of more dates and activity for a long time now and still the top fighters all refused to sign with him. Now that Golden Boy has a huge portion of the DAZN budget and a lot of dates why sign with Hearn? Just sign with Golden Boy who are better US promoters and now you have dates and showcases on DAZN.
I don't care about the dates he has if he doesn't have the fighters what does it matter? I'm saying GB has Canelo and additional 10 US dates and budget from DAZN. If you are a US free agent why sign with Hearn instead of Golden Boy or try and get your own direct deal like Golden Boy and Canelo just did with DAZN. In the US Golden Boy > Matchroom and now the 1 carrot stick Hearn had was that DAZN and their budget is exclusive to Hearn. Without that I is there really a point for any free agent that was reluctant to sign with Hearn to do so now.
More dates means more activity. That's one benefit.
Hearn has more dates on DAZN than Golden Boy.
I don't care about the dates he has if he doesn't have the fighters what does it matter? I'm saying GB has Canelo and additional 10 US dates and budget from DAZN. If you are a US free agent why sign with Hearn instead of Golden Boy or try and get your own direct deal like Golden Boy and Canelo just did with DAZN. In the US Golden Boy > Matchroom and now the 1 carrot stick Hearn had was that DAZN and their budget is exclusive to Hearn. Without that I is there really a point for any free agent that was reluctant to sign with Hearn to do so now.
I would take their roster over Hearns US roster plus they have actually proven they can build US stars and promote in the US market, fill US venues. Hearn is a total unknown with no US fighters and the one lure he had was DAZN and their check book. Well without that why not either sign with Golden Boy or try and make your own deal with DAZN going over his head like Canelo and Golden Boy did.
Because Hearn has a deal which gives him control over vast sums of DAZN's money. There isn't another spare 300 mill just sitting around for the next guy to come cut a deal. Matchroom US will benefit greatly from this situation.
Outside Canelo which is huge GB has tons of young studs Ryan Garcia (prospect of the year 2017 headlining drawing huge crowds already likely the next cash cow in boxing), Vergil Ortiz (leading candidate for prospect of the year for 2018), Romero Duno, Travell Mazion, Diego De La Hoya, Manuel Robles III, Rashidi Ellis, Alexis Roacha
Along with established current or former world champs caliber fighters like Jaime Munguia, Jorge Linares, David Lemieux, Francisco Vargas, Alberto Machado, Rey Vargas, Angel Acosta, Jojo Diaz, Sadam Ali, Jesus Rojas, Antonio Orozco.
There are also reports that they are in the process of signing the next mexican stud Eduardo Hernandez
I would take their roster over Hearns US roster plus they have actually proven they can build US stars and promote in the US market, fill US venues. Hearn is a total unknown with no US fighters and the one lure he had was DAZN and their check book. Well without that why not either sign with Golden Boy or try and make your own deal with DAZN going over his head like Canelo and Golden Boy did.
Hearn has more dates on DAZN than Golden Boy.
The GB stable as a whole is pretty weak. I think DAZN just wanted Canelo and agreed to throw Oscar some dates in order to seal the deal. DAZN is in the content game though I guess and this Golden Boy deal means more content for DAZN.
Outside Canelo which is huge GB has tons of young studs Ryan Garcia (prospect of the year 2017 headlining drawing huge crowds already likely the next cash cow in boxing), Vergil Ortiz (leading candidate for prospect of the year for 2018), Romero Duno, Travell Mazion, Diego De La Hoya, Manuel Robles III, Rashidi Ellis, Alexis Roacha
Along with established current or former world champs caliber fighters like Jaime Munguia, Jorge Linares, David Lemieux, Francisco Vargas, Alberto Machado, Rey Vargas, Angel Acosta, Jojo Diaz, Sadam Ali, Jesus Rojas, Antonio Orozco.
There are also reports that they are in the process of signing the next mexican stud Eduardo Hernandez
I would take their roster over Hearns US roster plus they have actually proven they can build US stars and promote in the US market, fill US venues. Hearn is a total unknown with no US fighters and the one lure he had was DAZN and their check book. Well without that why not either sign with Golden Boy or try and make your own deal with DAZN going over his head like Canelo and Golden Boy did.
I'm not really sure what Hearn's role is in DAZN, not sure if hes just a promoter or if hes like a Espinoza type aswell. See this video of Robert Garcia reacting to the news, you get the feeling Hearn is more involved in things then just a promoter, also sounds like Mikey is on his way to me
Yea idk if this situation is helping Eddie out personally THAT much. Although I do suspect Eddie has subscriber deal so Canelo coming to DAZN is gonna help Eddie personally pocket more money I'd imagine.
Its good for DAZN doe. Now they got 2 notable boxing promoters on their platform & I'm assuming Oscar has some sorta solid budget to sign up new guys cuz idk that he's got 10 non-Canelo "high caliber cards" without signing some fresh meat. Is DAZN gonna be cool with some Ryan Garcia or Vergil Ortiz headlined card like Oscar was about to sell on these lesser platforms? Idk I'd hope not.
The GB stable as a whole is pretty weak. I think DAZN just wanted Canelo and agreed to throw Oscar some dates in order to seal the deal. DAZN is in the content game though I guess and this Golden Boy deal means more content for DAZN.
Hearn will pay you more, promote you better and fight you more regularly. Canelo and GBP cards on DAZN just means more subscribers and eyes on the product. It's a massive boost for Hearn's attempts to attract fighters.
It's very noticeable though that there are zero details on the GBP deal outside of the Canelo figures. Makes you wonder what sort of rights fees were involved if there isn't even a peep about it.
Have you seen the Golden Boy stable lately? Aside from Canelo its pretty weak. They'res a reason why many of the GB cards recently have been in small casinos on ESPN2 or facebook. DAZN gave Oscar 10 dates. Hearn is guaranteed more dates than Golden Boy.