https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/11523342/del-boy-im-the-money-man-whyte
Dereck Chisora has branded himself as the 'Money Man' and is confident he can agree a heavyweight rematch with Dillian Whyte this week.
The British rivals are expected to resume negotiations over a second fight on December 22, but Luis Ortiz has also put himself forward as an alternative opponent, with the WBC welcoming this bout.
Ortiz just said 2 days ago he'll fight him. Now suddenly the Chisora deal is almost done. They have not made an effort to fight Ortiz.
The Ortiz thing was just a way to get Chisora team to drop the asking price its work since Ortiz open his mouth and felt for it...
Ortiz just help Whyte..
You seem to have no concept of integrity so all of this just goes over your head and this is the last time I'll try to explain this to you. When you verbally degrade a man and taunt him to fight you on a specific day, then run once he agrees, it makes you the lowest form of coward.
That may mean nothing to you but to most boxing fans, being a guy who talks shyt then ducks is a shameful thing.
Whyte vs Ortiz is a huge matchup, they are building it up correctly
Probably turn out to be a stinker of a fight anyway, I'm not fussed
I suggest you read it back.
They've been negotiating Whyte Chisora for months now, but I know they have both not budged much in the way of negotiation, which is maybe why Whyte turned his attention to Ortiz. It's possible that has caused Chisora to move on his demands for fear of losing the fight. If both fights were on a similar profile I would agree with you, but they are not. You maybe take the harder fight if it pays more, but not if it pays less.
And I grew up in the SF bay area.
You seem to have no concept of integrity so all of this just goes over your head and this is the last time I'll try to explain this to you. When you verbally degrade a man and taunt him to fight you on a specific day, then run once he agrees, it makes you the lowest form of coward.
That may mean nothing to you but to most boxing fans, being a guy who talks shyt then ducks is a shameful thing.
Ortiz just said 2 days ago he'll fight him. Now suddenly the Chisora deal is almost done. They have not made an effort to fight Ortiz.
But Whyte/Chisora has been negotiated for months.
The split is the only hold up, and Whyte mentioned Ortiz to get Chisora to lower his demands.
If Chisora didn't or doesn't lower his demands then the Ortiz fight may also happen.
It's really not hard to understand.
Ortiz just said 2 days ago he'll fight him. Now suddenly the Chisora deal is almost done. They have not made an effort to fight Ortiz.
Whyte was barking real loud at Ortiz but when Ortiz turned on him Whyte tucked his tail and slunk away. Not a good look...
Why bring up Ortiz if he aint gonna attempt to fight him. The fight was gone. Nobody was talking about that fight until Whyte brought it back up & challenged him & Ortiz accepted. Its only been a couple days & they haven't even attempted to make the Ortiz fight. That's why it's a duck. You call him out outta nowhere then don't even try to make the fight.
But how do you know they haven't attempted to make the Ortiz fight? I'm guessing Chisora wanted too much money, so Whyte called out Ortiz to see if that fight could happen. I'm guessing their camps have been talking recently, but Chisora may have come back to the table with lesser demands after realizing they might actually go in a different direction. Say what you like, but Whyte/Chisora 2 is a much bigger fight in the UK than Whyte/Ortiz and it's also a better fight imo. Chisora wins the rematch by KO if it happens
How are there people that don't want to see Whyte/Chisora 2? The first fight was maybe the greatest fight in HW history
It's the heavyweight equivalent of rios vs alvarado it's a competitive fight between two bums
It will be hilarious if Whyte takes this after calling out Ortiz. Would be one of the biggest bytch moves ever. But I wouldn't be surprised.
I agree, this is the most shameful thing I've heard.
Huh? I think you're reading way too far into what I said. I'm not emotional about it or anything. Just giving opinion.
Whyte questioned the man's balls and named a date. To run to another opponent now would make him pure bytch. I think they look at that stuff differently in the UK but being a coward brands you in the states.
I suggest you read it back.
They've been negotiating Whyte Chisora for months now, but I know they have both not budged much in the way of negotiation, which is maybe why Whyte turned his attention to Ortiz. It's possible that has caused Chisora to move on his demands for fear of losing the fight. If both fights were on a similar profile I would agree with you, but they are not. You maybe take the harder fight if it pays more, but not if it pays less.
And I grew up in the SF bay area.
Haha i think you're getting seriously carried away, need to chill out, we're only discussing boxing.
Duck Ortiz again? They offered Ortiz the Whyte fight previously if I'm not mistaken but he priced himself out according to Whyte, who fought Parker instead on ppv.
Anyway nothing's been decided, and tbh nothing to do with Hearn, you let him cloud your judgement and start acting like a woman ☝️fighters call each other out all the time, no one is going to bat an eyelid if he fights Chisora as a first option. The first fight was a barn burner, guarantee sell out, and ppv, it's the right business decision and deep down you know it, even if u wont admit it
But as I said i think Ortiz is the sexier fight, i'd prefer to see it. Whyte surprised me vs Parker, like to see if he could keep that momentum going. I think he's improving and will handle Chisora with ease this time
Huh? I think you're reading way too far into what I said. I'm not emotional about it or anything. Just giving opinion.
Whyte questioned the man's balls and named a date. To run to another opponent now would make him pure bytch. I think they look at that stuff differently in the UK but being a coward brands you in the states.
Whyte will duck Ortiz again and the Hearn servants are going to spam this place with ^that kind of thing to excuse it away.
Dude talked mad shyt and called out Ortiz, saying he didn't have the balls to fight him. To back out now would make him the most pathetic c*nt in the business. People who defend that are no integrity byches, straight up.
Haha i think you're getting seriously carried away, need to chill out, we're only discussing boxing.
Duck Ortiz again? They offered Ortiz the Whyte fight previously if I'm not mistaken but he priced himself out according to Whyte, who fought Parker instead on ppv.
Anyway nothing's been decided, and tbh nothing to do with Hearn, you let him cloud your judgement and start acting like a woman ☝️fighters call each other out all the time, no one is going to bat an eyelid if he fights Chisora as a first option. The first fight was a barn burner, guarantee sell out, and ppv, it's the right business decision and deep down you know it, even if u wont admit it
But as I said i think Ortiz is the sexier fight, i'd prefer to see it. Whyte surprised me vs Parker, like to see if he could keep that momentum going. I think he's improving and will handle Chisora with ease this time
Typical Eddie Hearn heavyweight fighter crap.
Miller talks crap, fights a 41 year old light heavyweight
Whyte calls out Ortiz, fights a dude with 8 losses that he already beat.
And Joshua is in witness protection hiding from Wilder. He's probably going to fight Whyte and Miller next year.
It will be hilarious if Whyte takes this after calling out Ortiz. Would be one of the biggest bytch moves ever. But I wouldn't be surprised.
This is what is going to happend
Whyte will duck Ortiz again and the Hearn servants are going to spam this place with ^that kind of thing to excuse it away.
Dude talked mad shyt and called out Ortiz, saying he didn't have the balls to fight him. To back out now would make him the most pathetic c*nt in the business. People who defend that are no integrity byches, straight up.
Thank goodness you are not a manager, promoter or an adviser. You will make a bad one.
Tickets aren't the issue here. Joshua is putting 80k butts in every stadium fight he has. He is THAT dude in the UK. But the Whyte rematch would do pretty insane numbers, and better numbers than Ortiz for sure.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. The Povetkin fight didn't sell out and there will be additional capacity for the April date. The resellers are now no longer an option also.
If the Wilder fight doesn't happen then Whyte or Chisora could still sell tickets, they're good talkers with a decent profile here in the UK. Ortiz however with no title and already beaten by Wilder would be a tough sell.