I'm sure we already had this conversation.
But I'll entertain you.
Did we not discuss that looks at the end of the fight dont tell the whole story? You could get your face smashed in 1 round and none the rest of the 11 and you can still win.
Let's take Lomachenko vs Marriaga because i recently watched it. Lomachenko was cut because of a headbutt and marriaga had nothing. You think marriaga won?
How you face looks isnt judging criteria. Put up or shut up. Find the rule for me please!
And bro. We all know you're putting up that photoshopped as pic of GGG with the red filter. Are you dumb?
You've already shown you have zero idea about boxing or human anatomy. Using talking points when someone already knows what you're gonna say is pretty dumb.
But nah, keep being a dumbass. Its your choice.
ggg's face got worse and worse as the fight wore on due to getting hit with the cleaner harder shots like he did in round 12.
ggg didn't just suffer 1 cut, both eyes were bruised, I wonder how that happened? Both eyes were cut and bleeding, I wonder how that happened? He had marks on the side of his head and all over his face, I wonder how those happened?
There is no photoshop lol, ggg was wearing big ass aviator glasses at the post fight press conference for a reason while Canelo had all but a bandaid and some slight marks.
You have to be retarded to think 2 black eyes, 2 cuts, and multiple markings appeared out of nowhere.
Great defense btw
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=12989589&dateline=1537107161
I'm sure we already had this conversation.
But I'll entertain you.
Did we not discuss that looks at the end of the fight dont tell the whole story? You could get your face smashed in 1 round and none the rest of the 11 and you can still win.
Let's take Lomachenko vs Marriaga because i recently watched it. Lomachenko was cut because of a headbutt and marriaga had nothing. You think marriaga won?
How you face looks isnt judging criteria. Put up or shut up. Find the rule for me please!
And bro. We all know you're putting up that photoshopped as pic of GGG with the red filter. Are you dumb?
You've already shown you have zero idea about boxing or human anatomy. Using talking points when someone already knows what you're gonna say is pretty dumb.
But nah, keep being a dumbass. Its your choice.
I thought about replying to that guy but literally you're arguing with a true casual. Canelo walked forward he says thats why he won. Yet in the same breathe you can still hear them complaining that GGG walking forward didnt win him the first fight.
Yet anyone with eyes can tell you canelo was actually running the first time around. He literally was backpedaling gasping for air while following the ropes corner to corner.
On the other hand all GGG was doing was circling canelo and resetting. Canelo wanted the middle if the ring so GGG let him. Canelo came forward and got smacked with jabs all night. Even i was surprised at how good GGGs defense looked in this fight. He was pivoting, pulling, rolling with punches etc. He made canelo miss a ton of wild swings ESPECIALLY IN THE 12TH. It's because like most people were saying, canleo needed a KO to win.
Great defense btw
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=12989589&dateline=1537107161
Canelo was getting tagged repeatedly in the last 30 seconds of the round...walking forwards taking shots and waving his arms should not account for any scoring by any judges except maybe a dimwit like you...golovkin landed more punches and controlled midrange you are also blind to the fact Canelo had a 2 inch cut above his left and should have been bleeding everywhere...as I said 12 was a swing round and even if you Award that to Canelo he still don't win enough rounds.
Golovkin had 1,4,5,8,9,10,11 and Canelo had 2,3,7,12...you could give Canelo the close round 8 and he still only had 5 rounds.
That's why compu have golovkin winning , why 99% of media thinks he deserved to keep his title.
You don't win rounds just by walking forward and getting out landed 2-1.
Canelo did great but he never won more rounds than triple ggg Saturday and punch stats prove it
Most of the punches ggg threw in the final 30 seconds did not land, he landed maybe 4 and there were punches from Canelo as well, it wasn't enough to erase what Canelo did earlier in the round.
ggg did not sit down on his punches including his jabs, these were not quality punches, they had no effect on Canelo even when they landed.
Compubox is inaccurate and has been exposed multiple times counting punches that did not land. ggg's face says it all, one guy looked like he was in a routine fight, the other was bloodied and bruised.
Canelo was getting tagged repeatedly in the last 30 seconds of the round...walking forwards taking shots and waving his arms should not account for any scoring by any judges except maybe a dimwit like you...golovkin landed more punches and controlled midrange you are also blind to the fact Canelo had a 2 inch cut above his left and should have been bleeding everywhere...as I said 12 was a swing round and even if you Award that to Canelo he still don't win enough rounds.
Golovkin had 1,4,5,8,9,10,11 and Canelo had 2,3,7,12...you could give Canelo the close round 8 and he still only had 5 rounds.
That's why compu have golovkin winning , why 99% of media thinks he deserved to keep his title.
You don't win rounds just by walking forward and getting out landed 2-1.
Canelo did great but he never won more rounds than triple ggg Saturday and punch stats prove it
I thought about replying to that guy but literally you're arguing with a true casual. Canelo walked forward he says thats why he won. Yet in the same breathe you can still hear them complaining that GGG walking forward didnt win him the first fight.
Yet anyone with eyes can tell you canelo was actually running the first time around. He literally was backpedaling gasping for air while following the ropes corner to corner.
On the other hand all GGG was doing was circling canelo and resetting. Canelo wanted the middle if the ring so GGG let him. Canelo came forward and got smacked with jabs all night. Even i was surprised at how good GGGs defense looked in this fight. He was pivoting, pulling, rolling with punches etc. He made canelo miss a ton of wild swings ESPECIALLY IN THE 12TH. It's because like most people were saying, canleo needed a KO to win.
I gave ggg the 1st minute, the 2nd minute Canelo, final minute was Canelo.
55 secs the final minute in Canelo lands 2 left hooks followed by the biggest punch of the round a right to the body.
42 secs Canelo lands 2 right hands, possibly a body shot too
38 they exchange, Canelo right hand off the forehead for ggg's jab
33? Canelo lands a 3 punch combo, right hand, left hook, right uppercut
Final 30 neither guy really lands anything clean, ggg's final uppercut came a bit after the bell too.
Canelo had 0 issue walking through ggg's jab, never hurt, by the 12th it was him pounding his gloves, coming forward, ggg bloodied and bruised up. Canelo was getting tagged repeatedly in the last 30 seconds of the round...walking forwards taking shots and waving his arms should not account for any scoring by any judges except maybe a dimwit like you...golovkin landed more punches and controlled midrange you are also blind to the fact Canelo had a 2 inch cut above his left and should have been bleeding everywhere...as I said 12 was a swing round and even if you Award that to Canelo he still don't win enough rounds.
Golovkin had 1,4,5,8,9,10,11 and Canelo had 2,3,7,12...you could give Canelo the close round 8 and he still only had 5 rounds.
That's why compu have golovkin winning , why 99% of media thinks he deserved to keep his title.
You don't win rounds just by walking forward and getting out landed 2-1.
Canelo did great but he never won more rounds than triple ggg Saturday and punch stats prove it
what about the 7 punches golovkin landed at the start of the 12th and also another 6 he landed in the last 30 seconds plus jabbing canelo at will through the round.
The whole round was canelo rallying to stay in the fight and lot of his punches were in desperation to try and even the round out.
Even lampley looked up and said canelo is rallying like he needs a knockout or are you deaf to that as well as blind.
Canelo lost rounds 1,4,5,8,9,10,11 and ill even give you the 12th for canelo or more than likely it was a swing round...no way did canelo win the 8th or the 10th you must be on drugs or something.
There was a reason why canelo was ducking and dodging because he was hurt and all he could do was try to avoid further punishment, he was also hurt in the 11th and again had to regroup.
As i said most media and experts scored the fight for golovkin...it was close yeah but boxing is not just about landing the harder punches....golovkin controlled large parts of that fight with keeping canelo at the end of his jab and landing uppercuts.
The things your slating golovkin for are the things that you dribble all over when its mayweather or ward doing it
GFOH with your biased ****
I gave ggg the 1st minute, the 2nd minute Canelo, final minute was Canelo.
55 secs the final minute in Canelo lands 2 left hooks followed by the biggest punch of the round a right to the body.
42 secs Canelo lands 2 right hands, possibly a body shot too
38 they exchange, Canelo right hand off the forehead for ggg's jab
33? Canelo lands a 3 punch combo, right hand, left hook, right uppercut
Final 30 neither guy really lands anything clean, ggg's final uppercut came a bit after the bell too.
Canelo had 0 issue walking through ggg's jab, never hurt, by the 12th it was him pounding his gloves, coming forward, ggg bloodied and bruised up.
LMAO @ fools saying all GGG landed were weak jabs. Look at all those uppercuts and power jabs that had Canelo's bopping like a chickenhead.
I gave it to Canelo slightly, but it still only made it 7-5 GGG for me.
But you're right, "weak jabs" were not the only thing. 38 seconds in that video you already see a clean uppercut landed by GGG
GGG started off strong, but it only lasted the first 35 seconds of the 12th rd. Canelo controlled and landed the more accurate punches the remainder of the round. Too many people want to give GGG rds based on 30sec of good work, he also landed a lot of arm punches. They give him too much credit and exaggerate the damage he was doing. Canelo was never hurt, never staggered, never dropped, never did his legs wobble at all. During the 10th rd when Lampley got all wet when GGG landed a few shots, but then he had to back track and admit that it all just lasted a few seconds as Canelo pressed forward landing punches. I did give GGG the 10th, but it was by no means a dominate round. Again, Canelo won the 12th based on controlling the rd, pressing forward landing harder punches. GGG success in the last rd was limited to the first 35 seconds of the rd.
canelo bleeds GGG that round, i think thats what made judge decide to give 12 to clenelo
It was a head butt @ 1:13...they touched gloves @1:16 ...the judges saw blood and gave the round to Canelo even though he was out-boxed. A head butt cost GGG the fight.
GGG re-opened Canelo's cut above the eye and he had blood down his face at the end of the round also.
Canelo landed the better shots, ggg landed quantity most of which were pitty pat jabs mixed in with power jabs.
Canelo was NEVER hurt, show me. Round 10 he was supposedly "hurt" yet dodged every single punch ggg threw and came back with hard counters of his own, that is not hurt.
Canelo landed 10 punches from 2 mins into the 12 round to 1:30, oh but those don't count, ggg's pitty pat jabs do however. Canelo won the 8th, 10th, and 12th, it was him that came on, him that won the last round, him that looked the fresher of the two.what about the 7 punches golovkin landed at the start of the 12th and also another 6 he landed in the last 30 seconds plus jabbing canelo at will through the round.
The whole round was canelo rallying to stay in the fight and lot of his punches were in desperation to try and even the round out.
Even lampley looked up and said canelo is rallying like he needs a knockout or are you deaf to that as well as blind.
Canelo lost rounds 1,4,5,8,9,10,11 and ill even give you the 12th for canelo or more than likely it was a swing round...no way did canelo win the 8th or the 10th you must be on drugs or something.
There was a reason why canelo was ducking and dodging because he was hurt and all he could do was try to avoid further punishment, he was also hurt in the 11th and again had to regroup.
As i said most media and experts scored the fight for golovkin...it was close yeah but boxing is not just about landing the harder punches....golovkin controlled large parts of that fight with keeping canelo at the end of his jab and landing uppercuts.
The things your slating golovkin for are the things that you dribble all over when its mayweather or ward doing it
GFOH with your biased ****
Lol
So you have some wise individuals who gave it to one guy, or the other.... saying it was tough.
But then you have those who tell you "I know it was _____'s round! its obvious!!! No way _____ could have won it.
Really?
To me its also obvious: Depending on what you were looking for, determines who won that round. Everyone seems to get that both guys had different ebb and flow, did different things at different times, nobody dominated the round.
you don't know what your talking about ..who landed the most shots ? Who took over in the 3rd of the fight and who was hurt on more than 2 occasions.
Boxing is scored on effective aggression ...Canelo missed more than he landed , he was showed poor defence in avoiding golovkin spearing jab and uppercuts...golovkin controlled Canelo in large parts of the fight by keeping him on the end of his jab.
Canelo was struggling to keep up with golovkin in the last 4 rounds and even lamprey looked up and said Canelo is fighting like he needs a knockout in the last round.
Golovkin won this fight by distance and also coming on strong in the 2nd half of the fight
Canelo landed the better shots, ggg landed quantity most of which were pitty pat jabs mixed in with power jabs.
Canelo was NEVER hurt, show me. Round 10 he was supposedly "hurt" yet dodged every single punch ggg threw and came back with hard counters of his own, that is not hurt.
Canelo landed 10 punches from 2 mins into the 12 round to 1:30, oh but those don't count, ggg's pitty pat jabs do however. Canelo won the 8th, 10th, and 12th, it was him that came on, him that won the last round, him that looked the fresher of the two.
Are you blind because the shot isnt even in the same area. That picture with Hatton clearly. And I mean CLEARLY shows hit hitting right under the ribs. That is not the case with GGG. Scrunch over and tell me how much of your side is actually exposed where you can get it. And please do relearn your anatomy. The lat is on your back covering your ribs. This is right above the kidney. Getting punched in the lat is getting punched on your back. If you punch someone behind the ear is DEFINITELY a rabbit punch though the difference is the intention. Throwing a single shot and having the opponent turn the head vs aiming for the back of the head.
Like bro.
I never said GGG won round 2, but thanks for proving my POINT. GGG sustained a lot of face damages in ONE ROUND that carried through the entire fight. Boxing is scored with individual rounds. Busting someone's face in ROUND 2 doesnt mean they won every single round after or even the fight.
Ring general ship is back up the opponent? So you think GGG won the first fight in a HUGE LANDSLIDE?
compare the two fights. If canelo "backed up" GGG in this fight what the hell did GGG do to canelo in the first fight?
"Settle for jabs" lmfao.
Canelo fans sound stupider and stupider. You dont know **** about boxing or anatomy for real.
You need to get your eyes checked if you think this is a back shot:
https://nicholasspyer.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/box_g_hatton_300.jpg
The glove placement is the same as where Canelo landed his, partially on his lat/ribs, this is a scoring punch. Your lats extend to the side of your body, illegal black blows pertain primarily to your actual back where your kidneys are located just like the back of your head and not the side is illegal to punch.
Your ear literally lines up with your lats. Like I said, if you lay on your side, you're going to be laying on your lats/ribs.
ggg rarely landed anything clean other than a power jab which Canelo walked through, he battered up ggg's face not once, but twice in a row. The damage came from punches like the 2 mins into the 12th round where Canelo was pieced him up with 10 punches which of course gets ignored by you g tards.
ggg had BOTH eyes cut, both eyes bruised, marks on his temples, etc. he got ****ed up in there.
The punch was clean, ggg did not block any of it, scrunching up your body does not make a punch ineffective or constitute as blocking a punch.
I said the area where Hatton's punch landed, was opposite of where Canelo landed, yet their glove placement was the same, partly on Castillo's lat and ribs which broke.
Canelo hit him clean on the ribs/lats, that is not his back. If you lay on your side, guess what? You're going to be laying partly on your lats.
You're confusing back shots with side shots, do you think punching to the side of someone's head constitutes as rabbit punching too? Because that's the logic you're following. Back shots are meant as the literal back, where your kidneys are.
ggg's busted up face is evidence of Canelo landing the cleaner, harder punches. Bleeding from both eyes, bruised eyes, marked up head, you think those appeared out of nowhere?
Canelo literally walked through ggg's "power jabs" for a full 12 rounds, not hurt a single time. Canelo's body punching on the other hand had ggg backing up all night afraid to throw.
Ring generalship went to Canelo 100%, backed him up, bullied him, tore up his face. Canelo did what he wanted to do, ggg had to settle for jabs that couldn't even bruise Canelo's face.
From around 1:55 in the 2nd round to around 1:30 Canelo lands 10 clean punches on ggg's face, that is where the damage came from.
Are you blind because the shot isnt even in the same area. That picture with Hatton clearly. And I mean CLEARLY shows hit hitting right under the ribs. That is not the case with GGG. Scrunch over and tell me how much of your side is actually exposed where you can get it. And please do relearn your anatomy. The lat is on your back covering your ribs. This is right above the kidney. Getting punched in the lat is getting punched on your back. If you punch someone behind the ear is DEFINITELY a rabbit punch though the difference is the intention. Throwing a single shot and having the opponent turn the head vs aiming for the back of the head.
Like bro.
I never said GGG won round 2, but thanks for proving my POINT. GGG sustained a lot of face damages in ONE ROUND that carried through the entire fight. Boxing is scored with individual rounds. Busting someone's face in ROUND 2 doesnt mean they won every single round after or even the fight.
Ring general ship is back up the opponent? So you think GGG won the first fight in a HUGE LANDSLIDE?
compare the two fights. If canelo "backed up" GGG in this fight what the hell did GGG do to canelo in the first fight?
"Settle for jabs" lmfao.
Canelo fans sound stupider and stupider. You dont know **** about boxing or anatomy for real.
The punch was clean, ggg did not block any of it, scrunching up your body does not make a punch ineffective or constitute as blocking a punch.
I said the area where Hatton's punch landed, was opposite of where Canelo landed, yet their glove placement was the same, partly on Castillo's lat and ribs which broke.
Canelo hit him clean on the ribs/lats, that is not his back. If you lay on your side, guess what? You're going to be laying partly on your lats.
You're confusing back shots with side shots, do you think punching to the side of someone's head constitutes as rabbit punching too? Because that's the logic you're following. Back shots are meant as the literal back, where your kidneys are.
ggg's busted up face is evidence of Canelo landing the cleaner, harder punches. Bleeding from both eyes, bruised eyes, marked up head, you think those appeared out of nowhere?
Canelo literally walked through ggg's "power jabs" for a full 12 rounds, not hurt a single time. Canelo's body punching on the other hand had ggg backing up all night afraid to throw.
Ring generalship went to Canelo 100%, backed him up, bullied him, tore up his face. Canelo did what he wanted to do, ggg had to settle for jabs that couldn't even bruise Canelo's face.
From around 1:55 in the 2nd round to around 1:30 Canelo lands 10 clean punches on ggg's face, that is where the damage came from. you don't know what your talking about ..who landed the most shots ? Who took over in the 3rd of the fight and who was hurt on more than 2 occasions.
Boxing is scored on effective aggression ...Canelo missed more than he landed , he was showed poor defence in avoiding golovkin spearing jab and uppercuts...golovkin controlled Canelo in large parts of the fight by keeping him on the end of his jab.
Canelo was struggling to keep up with golovkin in the last 4 rounds and even lamprey looked up and said Canelo is fighting like he needs a knockout in the last round.
Golovkin won this fight by distance and also coming on strong in the 2nd half of the fight
That round was along with round 6 was the hardest to score...my 1st thoughts were Canelo did enough to pull that round back.
Watching it another 2 or 3 times I think golovkin took it because he won the 1st half of it Canelo then rallied back but it was like him trying to stay with golovkin than him actually taking over...
Golovkin then came on again over the last 30 seconds and Canelo took some real blockbusters.. I can still give Canelo that round and he still loses ...golovkin won rounds 1,4,5,8,9,10,11 and Canelo had 2,3,7,12 ...the 6th round I could not seperate them so an even round so for me it was 7-4 and one even for golovkin..as I said no way Canelo won this fight