Kovalev - Biggest hypejob of all times?

You know what, I'll let you have that one. But you need to learn how to argue with people without being emotionally invested and resorting to insults. It's just boxing. You attack me and I come back ten fold. That's how it works.

He's not at all overhyped. The guy is just worn out now. Good luck, Champ.

Broner's BEST win was a split decision over Paulie - THAT is a hype job.

I can guarantee that I have a higher IQ than you. But back on topic.....how do you cope with a sh@t account on here that clearly shows nobody on here agrees with you or gives a f@ck what you think? I'm not really giving a f@ck either but figure I'd at least ask. Ha ha ha! What a Fkn Moron You know what, I'll let you have that one. But you need to learn how to argue with people without being emotionally invested and resorting to insults. It's just boxing.

His best win is Jean Pascal.

As is usual, seeing the word “Hypejob” in a thread title tells you all you need to know about it.

I don't think so. I think Kovalev just has flaws and they were exposed in the Ward fights. He gets frustrated with boxers but he learned how to cope with it better and was doing pretty good in the Alvarez fight starting in the 4th once he started to walk him down. Unfortunately he got caught with a good punch and there's nothing you can do about that. That's boxing for you. All three judges had Kovalev up on the scorecards but that one right hand changed the entire fight. It can happen to anyone.

I can guarantee that I have a higher IQ than you. But you can't string a decent argument and struggle to piece more than 2 phrases together. How could that be?

Asking in a way like, is Kovalev a HOF type fighter, or does he have great wins, no he does not. But if you look at who he beat and who they were at the time, and how they were seen by the boxing community, he does have some good wins. Gabriel Campillo - He was seen as an upset type of guy, a real live underdog who kept getting the short end in close decisions. Campillo was liked by the boxing community at the time, and Kovalev stopping him early was a surprise to everyone. It was Kovalev's sort of breakthrough fight. Nathan Cleverly - Undefeated, but not much to go by other than the Bellew and Murat fights. He was seen as a "good" fighter who was coming up. Kovalev easily destroyed him. Bernard Hopkins - I wholeheartedly believed Hopkins would outbox Kovalev. I was wrong and Kovalev beat him clearly. His best win. Jean Pascal - At the time he had losses to Hopkins and Froch only, obviously nothing to be ashamed of. This is one of Kovalev's best wins, probably second best. Pascal had close fights with Hopkins, Froch, beat Dawson, Diaconu, Bute, Gonzalez, also while Alvarez won the fight, he didn't look all that against Pascal, I had it 8-4 Alavare because he was busier. Pascal definitely gave a better account of himself vs Alvarez after his KO losses to Kovalev, than Kovalev gave after his losses to Ward. Good fighter that doesn't really get appreciated it because of wildness. He's always competitive though. Isaac Chilemba - Awkward style, hard to look good against. Kovalev didn't look good in this fight, but he managed to win by decision. Chilemba is not great but he is no cake walk. I think this was a good win for Kovalev, although not a good performance.

I do you cope with life with such a low IQ? I'm actually curious. I can guarantee that I have a higher IQ than you. But back on topic.....how do you cope with a sh@t account on here that clearly shows nobody on here agrees with you or gives a f@ck what you think? I'm not really giving a f@ck either but figure I'd at least ask. Ha ha ha! What a Fkn Moron

You have a solid red k bar and are from Canada and are probably a Chickenson fan. We really care about your opinion ...... I do you cope with life with such a low IQ? I'm actually curious.

Everybody is a hype job, the man was a champ willing to fight anybody even Alvarez who Adonis blatantly ducked. I don't understand how Adonis is still champ and he picks and chooses to fight who he wants in Canada only!!! People also forget that he was winning the 2nd Ward fight before the stoppage And I had him winning 4 rounds to 1 in this fight when he got stopped. Hype job my ass!

Always thought Kovalev was trash tbh You have a solid red k bar and are from Canada and are probably a Chickenson fan. We really care about your opinion ......

Who's his best win? A 73 year old Bhop? Living off one knockdown of Ward in a fight he was completely schooled in after round 5. Then proceeded to get nearly ko'd by a pillow puncher in Ward and QUIT in the rematch. Didn't take a rocket scientist to work out if Ward could hurt him and make him quit what would someone who could actually throw a hurtful punch do to him? He's lucky Chickenson ducked him or else he'd have ended the hypejob there and then. Definition of a hypejob was "Krusher" :lol1: I hate to day this because Roy is my favorite fighter of all time but you're an idiot. For obvious reasons.

Come on now, Ward signed a 3 fight deal with HBO in Oct '15 fought Brand & Barrera both at 175 over the next year before facing Kovalev in Nov '16. How many tune up's he need to get "acclimated" to his new found weight class? Then 8 more months for the rematch with nothing in-between. Was rusty in first fight but not in second with longer break? Ward looked emaciated in that fight and had no legs. Looked like a completely different man the second time around. You either choose not to see it or simply can't. And I won't even address that last statement you made, I'm trying really hard to be respectful there. Even the 2nd fight with Kovalev was very close, going back & forth through 7rnds (that's 19 rounds now against Ward that were very even) until Andre landed that huge right hand, very similar to the Alvarez one this past weekend which changed the whole complexion of each outcome. Yeah, both fights were very similar, they both waited for him to gass out until they pulled the axe on him. If you could speak French, you would've heard Mark Ramsey tell Alvarez to not attack until the 8th. It may have looked close to some, but it was simply part of the game plan. As some have mentioned, it's very disrespectful to dismiss Sergey (despite his obvious stamina issues) without totally belittling perhaps Andre's greatest achievement. Kovalev is NOT Ward's greatest accomplishment, Froch is. HOF resume and a superior fighter in pretty much every single aspect of boxing.

Amazing that a man with so many flaws and hype arguably beat Ward in the first fight and dropped him in the process. Even if you agree with the decision, how did such a limited hype job run him so close? given the fact Ward is one of the best of a generation. I don't disagree with all that you say though. I always felt he was more beatable than many thought due to obvious holes, but pretty much every fighter has some flaws. I don't think he was a hype job at all. Was he an exceptional elite fighter? nope and nobody ever said he was either. HBO promoted and hyped him as an exciting dangerous fighter that was providing knockouts and entertainment, that's all anyone ever thought and that was true for a time. A hype job would've fallen at the first hurdles and got nowhere near the level Kovalev did. I think you're confusing a hype job with a TV company selling a product. What are you expecting them to say "Tune in to the fight, we have a limited fighter versus a C level punching bag"? If we're calling a fighter a hypejob because he was promoted by a TV network to sell fights and lost some because he didn't have the tools to win some fight, then we could apply that logic to some of the best fighters in history that have some losses on their record. My point exactly. And I had Kovalev up by a round when Ward caught him in the second fight. Kovalev was neck and neck with one of the best fighters of the generation. Kovalev is the furthest thing from a bum

I think a lot of it had to do with Ward just coming off a long break and still getting accustomed to his new weight, which was made evident by how much more comfortable he looked the second time around. Come on now, Ward signed a 3 fight deal with HBO in Oct '15 fought Brand & Barrera both at 175 over the next year before facing Kovalev in Nov '16. How many tune up's he need to get "acclimated" to his new found weight class? Then 8 more months for the rematch with nothing in-between. Was rusty in first fight but not in second with longer break? Even the 2nd fight with Kovalev was very close, going back & forth through 7rnds (that's 19 rounds now against Ward that were very even) until Andre landed that huge right hand, very similar to the Alvarez one this past weekend which changed the whole complexion of each outcome. As some have mentioned, it's very disrespectful to dismiss Sergey (despite his obvious stamina issues) without totally belittling perhaps Andre's greatest achievement. http://i.imgur.com/G6o3Bis.png

Obviously not a hype job. You'd have to be extremely stupid to believe that.

Amazing that a man with so many flaws and hype arguably beat Ward in the first fight and dropped him in the process. Even if you agree with the decision, how did such a limited hype job run him so close? given the fact Ward is one of the best of a generation. I think a lot of it had to do with Ward just coming off a long break and still getting accustomed to his new weight, which was made evident by how much more comfortable he looked the second time around. I don't think he was a hype job at all. Was he an exceptional elite fighter? nope and nobody ever said he was either. HBO promoted and hyped him as an exciting dangerous fighter that was providing knockouts and entertainment, that's all anyone ever thought and that was true for a time. I think you're either being disingenous or oblivious. Kovalev was most defnitely considered an elite fighter by the boxing public and an undisputable top 3 p4p fighter even though nothing in his resume or skill level warranted that ranking. A hype job would've fallen at the first hurdles and got nowhere near the level Kovalev did. I think you're confusing a hype job with a TV company selling a product. No, a hypejob is any fighter who's promotion and exposure is disproportionate with his accomplishments and/or skills. And unless you consider a past prime Jean Pascal a major hurdle, Kovalev still hasn't done anything to validate his elite status. The media invests in products they know will sell, and how exciting or talented they are is only part of the equation. Factors that have nothing to do with actual talent like demographics, personality or even physical appearance also play a major role.

Amazing that a man with so many flaws and hype arguably beat Ward in the first fight and dropped him in the process. Even if you agree with the decision, how did such a limited hype job run him so close? given the fact Ward is one of the best of a generation. I think a lot of it had to do with Ward just coming off a long break and still getting accustomed to his new weight, which was made evident by how much more comfortable he looked the second time around. I don't think he was a hype job at all. Was he an exceptional elite fighter? nope and nobody ever said he was either. HBO promoted and hyped him as an exciting dangerous fighter that was providing knockouts and entertainment, that's all anyone ever thought and that was true for a time. I think you're either being disingenous or oblivious. Kovalev was most defnitely considered an elite fighter by the boxing public and an undisputable top 3 p4p fighter even though nothing in his resume or skill level warranted that ranking. A hype job would've fallen at the first hurdles and got nowhere near the level Kovalev did. I think you're confusing a hype job with a TV company selling a product. No, a hypejob is any fighter who's promotion and exposure is disproportionate with his accomplishments and/or skills. And unless you consider a past prime Jean Pascal a major hurdle, Kovalev still hasn't done anything to validate his elite status. The media invests in products they know will sell, and how exciting or talented they are is only part of the equation. Factors that have nothing to do with actual talent like demographics, personality or even physical appearance also play a major role.