Is Errol Spence Jr. Clean cut kid no outside the ring problems,
has NOT ducked any fighter because they "run" or fight in a
"boring" style, and is the most sincere boxer to date!
Getting suspended because you are a POS and cheated
the sport NOT this kid!
MOST AMERICANS can relate to him! All around good kid!
We struck gold with this one ladies and Gentlemen.
Freaking Ponamarev was supposed to fight him for the mandatory slot and he pulled out a week beforehand. At least he was another undefeated fighter at the top of the rankings.
First I’m not sh.itting on Ocampos he should get props for taking the fight in which the only
Outcome was him getting beat down. I’m just ranting on the IBF ranking and giving Mandos to guys who don’t or shouldn’t deserve it
Don’t even get me started on Ponomarev
I think he did the same thing against Spence. That’s 2x you pull out of elimination fights the guy should be dropped from the ranking not be allowed to stick around in the top 10 it’s obvious he doesn’t want the strap why Rank him
Ponomarev is just a slightly better version of Ocampos in that he got his high ranking by essentially being a scrub killer and getting Ws off low ranked opponents
I looked at the IBF rankings and their criteria for ranking and it says the main criteria ares win/loss record and quality of opponents if that’s really the case Ugas should have leapfrogged both, sh.it if were being honest Jessie Vargas should have leapfrogged both by getting a draw against Broner.
I don’t know if the IBF ranks the guys by a committee or through a computer program butnguys getting Ws and making a career off beating 200-1200 ranked WW shouldn’t get you anywhere near the top and a shot at the title
Great to see him get huge support in Texas! He should continue to fight in Texas would love to see Spence Jr vs Thurman or Crawford in Cowboys Stadium as a Mega Bout that is probably a Dream Of His I'm sure! :dunno:
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It won't be ONE FACE of boxing in this ERA it will be Multiple
Don’t be a f.ucking retard
It’s Haymons fault the IBF strictly enforced their mandos. You want Spence stripped because he didn’t fight this scrub
The blame for this fight is the IBF and their ranking system and how they could have a fighter who has never beaten a top 150 WW and who’s entire resume consists of guys ranked between #150-1200 be put in position to fight for a World Title
I looked at the IBF website and the main 2 criteria for ranking a fighter are Win/loss record and strength of competition faced. How did a fighter like Ocampos get so high when he’s essentially fought sh.it his entire career. As a example I don’t know how long Ugas has been wanting to be ranked by the IBF but in the last 2 years he’s beat Robinson, Dulhorme , Jamal James , Levan the wolf , Perrella all fighters ranked from 20-100 with some sort of established careers , how on earth it took Ugas all this time to just now leapfrog Ocampos as the #1 contender goes against the IBFs rule for rating fighters. He should have leapfrogged Ocampos just off the James , Perrella fights alone because Ocampos was busy fighting Janitors
Freaking Ponamarev was supposed to fight him for the mandatory slot and he pulled out a week beforehand. At least he was another undefeated fighter at the top of the rankings.
Well, if we are talking about how it's time to change or revise things then why not start by making all boxers fight under only one sanctioning body?
That would be a positive for the sport. Asking the IBF to become more like the WBC/WBA/WBO would be a negative.
I agree with you obviously 1 strap would be ideal , but probably never a reality it would eliminate these Wack a.ss mandos
And while all 3 major straps have positives and negatives. I think it’s be best if they had rules that were strictly followed but allowed some wiggle room for the champs so there wouldn’t be stripping Golovkin because he didn’t want to Fight Devrechenko when pursuing a Canelo rematch or Stripping Fury when he choose to fight a rematch with Klit instead of fighting his no name Mando. Both those instances the fighter and real Champion of the division was going after a bigger better fight which draws fans /eyeballs and $ to the sport and the IBF stripped them because they had to follow their wa.ck rules to the T
Yes your right but that will never happen l. The world isn’t fair or perfect
Well, if we are talking about how it's time to change or revise things then why not start by making all boxers fight under only one sanctioning body?
That would be a positive for the sport. Asking the IBF to become more like the WBC/WBA/WBO would be a negative.
Is Errol Spence Jr. Clean cut kid no outside the ring problems,
has NOT ducked any fighter because they "run" or fight in a
"boring" style, and is the most sincere boxer to date!
Getting suspended because you are a POS and cheated
the sport NOT this kid!
MOST AMERICANS can relate to him! All around good kid!
We struck gold with this one ladies and Gentlemen.
Think Anthony Johnson also ticks those boxes but AJ is a bigger draw
The system gives mando positions to the fighters that actually want to play by it's rules.
If you were to force ALL fighters to play by those rules then you would get higher quality mandos.
Can you imagine if Mayweather held the IBF and every year or so had to fight a fighter on Ocampos level l. Shi.t give me the WBC any day that allows the elite name brand talent to make big fights and not fight scrubs just so they can be sticklers and not enhance the sport
The system gives mando positions to the fighters that actually want to play by it's rules.
If you were to force ALL fighters to play by those rules then you would get higher quality mandos.
Yes your right but that will never happen l. The world isn’t fair or perfect
And the only reason the IBF is so strict is because they were caught being dirty as f.uck not to long ago so this strict play by the rules
Righteousness isn’t because done out of what ls best for the sport it’s to help erase some of the stench off them
But in no way should a fighter of Ocampos level and resume be ranked high enough for a World Title and if a fighter of Ocampos quality is the best you can rank it should tell you something. The fact the scrubs keeps getting Mando shots should tell the organization to revise some rules to attract some higher quality fighters
Every sport has different rules for different players was Jordan treated the same as Blue Edwards was Kobe treated the same as Shawn Bradley ? Is it fair ? F.uck no but that’s sports they cater to the $ makers why should boxing be different
Yeah that’s great in theory but when your rule book creates a system that far too often gives Mando positions to fighters that don’t deserve it or strip Champions for reasons that don’t enhance the sport. Maybe it’s time to change or revise some of Your rules to actually
Benefit the sport and you can strictly enforce but at the same time you can attract more top fighters to be ranked in your organization
The system gives mando positions to the fighters that actually want to play by it's rules.
If you were to force ALL fighters to play by those rules then you would get higher quality mandos.
The IBF has a rulebook and everyone has to abide by that rulebook. That's the way a legit sport should work.
Having different rules for different fighters and different promoters is just chaos. The only reason to do that is to leave the door open for corruption...which is exactly why the big promoters steer their guys away from the IBF to the WBC/WBA/WBO.
Every sport has different rules for different players was Jordan treated the same as Blue Edwards was Kobe treated the same as Shawn Bradley ? Is it fair ? F.uck no but that’s sports they cater to the $ makers why should boxing be different
Yeah that’s great in theory but when your rule book creates a system that far too often gives Mando positions to fighters that don’t deserve it or strip Champions for reasons that don’t enhance the sport. Maybe it’s time to change or revise some of Your rules to actually
Benefit the sport and you can strictly enforce but at the same time you can attract more top fighters to be ranked in your organization
Have to 100% disagree. He's not even close to a household name. Huge Spence and bud fan but neither are big draws yet.
Is Errol Spence Jr. Clean cut kid no outside the ring problems,
has NOT ducked any fighter because they "run" or fight in a
"boring" style, and is the most sincere boxer to date!
Getting suspended because you are a POS and cheated
the sport NOT this kid!
MOST AMERICANS can relate to him! All around good kid!
We struck gold with this one ladies and Gentlemen.
F.uck that
There’s 3 legit straps and one semi legit one (WBO) why would any promoter or team of a established fighter choose to go the IBF route when they’ve shown they have no problem treating established names the fighters that generate $ , fans , attention for the sport the same as a low level scrub ( and in some cases even worse )
The blames on the IBF and their ranking system and how they could have a guys ranked as Mandos thatin no way shape or form deserve to ranked that high and causes these waste of time mismatches far too often
The IBF has a rulebook and everyone has to abide by that rulebook. That's the way a legit sport should work.
Having different rules for different fighters and different promoters is just chaos. The only reason to do that is to leave the door open for corruption...which is exactly why the big promoters steer their guys away from the IBF to the WBC/WBA/WBO.
The blame is actually on the promoters who don't like having to abide by the strict and transparent IBF rules. For the most part they have their fighters avoid the IBF rankings.
Or the blame could also go to the WBC, WBA, and WBO for making up the rules as they go along in order to gain favor with these promoters.
Take your pick.
F.uck that
There’s 3 legit straps and one semi legit one (WBO) why would any promoter or team of a established fighter choose to go the IBF route when they’ve shown they have no problem treating established names the fighters that generate $ , fans , attention for the sport the same as a low level scrub ( and in some cases even worse )
The blames on the IBF and their ranking system and how they could have a guys ranked as Mandos thatin no way shape or form deserve to ranked that high and causes these waste of time mismatches far too often
This guy could be a superstar, let's hope Al Haymon can do a better job managing him. Why after the Kell Brook fight it took him 7 months to get another fight is ridiculous. He should of fought in September instead of waiting until January and capitalized on the moment and press he had. He needs to keep fighting regularly and keep making headlines and his stardom will build.
I don’t know how much more clean cut and humble you can expect a man who fights for a living to be. I mean seriously people, ES is special. Hell, it may take his entire career to convince people who love to find hate in just about everything.
The guy can’t hide it. There is no facade or marketing scheme. He’s a middle class black kid with Jamaican parents that has manners and respect. But a fight in him as if he came from the depths of struggle (like many great fighters). Give the kid a chance and the benefit of the doubt. Give him the opportunity to clear out his division and also learn how complicated it is to get the fights he needs. Even after he clears out the division including Crawford, people will still cast doubt.
You couldn’t build a better American representative for boxing in a lab.
The blame for this fight is the IBF and their ranking system and how they could have a fighter who has never beaten a top 150 WW and who’s entire resume consists of guys ranked between #150-1200 be put in position to fight for a World Title
The blame is actually on the promoters who don't like having to abide by the strict and transparent IBF rules. For the most part they have their fighters avoid the IBF rankings.
Or the blame could also go to the WBC, WBA, and WBO for making up the rules as they go along in order to gain favor with these promoters.
Take your pick.