Canelo, GoldenBoy Walked Away From Negotiations

This black and white stuff doesn't belong here. This forum and the news channels don't sound too different. Roseanne this, Starbucks that. I know you guys are just kidding and they are funny posts...but cmon guys. Be the bigger man, argue with a lesser and become the lesser.

Stick to your carpet headed, blue gummed, crack smoking, women beating fighters. These two don't concern you boy. Must suck when the 2 men you idolize the most are a cross dressing, pansexual coke addict and his weak ass PED using sidekick. Worse for you, they both lost to the same smaller black man. Must be hard because Floyd is constant reminder of your past-Mom left home for a black man, your dad left you for a black man, and every person you've been with or loved left you for a black man as well. I bet you go crazy when the black guys pick up the guys standing next to you outside the Loews for work and leave you there on the corner. #sadmemories

Good! Glad Golden Boy Promotions told GGG and K2 to pound sand. Canelo is the face of boxing, the money man. If GGG doesn’t want to accept that he can go kick rocks because he has no leverage over Canelo.

they was some agreement cause team GGG says they did agree to the rematch arleady but NOW cause of XYZ they want more compensention. So yea a agreement was made before but nothing officials it appears. This is just GGG trying to extrot canelo out of some $$$$$ LMAO BU BU BU BU....... THEY TOLD ME THEY SAYS SOME WORDS BU BU BU OSCAR SAYS HE QUIT SUBSTANCE ABUSE! Where is the signed agreement?

I don't think they will get a better offer from the may rematch if they end up getting extra 5% good for them but I don't think Canelo people would want to do them a favor

This is a fact. They didn't send a counter-offer. They left the table despite them withdrawing from the last fight and failed drug tests. They walked away once again with the tail between their legs. GG is the one that ****ed up. They tried to play hardball and ****ed up. Who is GG going to make money with now? Asking for 50/50? When has GG ever sold ppvs? If he wants to go that route fine, but Dlh was forced to walk away. They should've just negotiated for more money not 50/50. If GG fights Derevyanchenko ill lose respect for him.

Team GGG already agreed to terms, they changed it and hence opened up this can of worms we are dealing with now. where were the signed papers?

The more I look at it the more I realize Canelo is not going to get hurt by testing positive. Yeah, his reputation is shot in some corners but his diehard base will not leave him and he can always make big fights on the 2 biggest weekends. Time will tell. Canelo was aiming for something more than he is currently, I think in the last 9 months that is dead. I do not see another 1M fight from him if he does not fight Golovkin again. Not sure there are too many guys still left at MW or JMW who even get him to 500K. I do think the curiosity factor for his first return fight will be high so a possible temporary bump up. If he fights a guy like Spike in September it will interesting. I'm leaning towards that fight doing less than 300K.

GGG is playing hardball as IMO he should. Coka dela Spatula and Clenelo are doing the same. IMO this is all posturing and a deal will get done for September because there is too much money to be made. GGG is getting screwed here but I don't think a positive test suddenly means he is entitled to a 50/50 split. Yes he should get something more than he originally was but lets not get crazy pretty much...but I think gbp/canelo have the stronger position overall. 60-40 is fair.

Golden Boy is very unprofessional in how they conduct business...If they were to lose Canelo, they could fold completely. Oscar was such an honarable boxer but may now possibly be the biggest scumbag in boxing as a promoter. Such a lying dirt bag I can’t watch his interviews.

GBP made an offer. BBB sides team wanted more but has no leverage to ask for more. GBP made it clear that was their final offer, BBB side can take it or leave it. Making a more than fair offer and the other side not accepting it is not walking away.

I will never put my fandom before my reason. I am a Golovkin fan. Yeah in a fair world he might get 50/50 but we are dealing with facts. Anyone no less than 50/50 is either a fan or not dealing with the real world. Same with the Canelo fan who says 35% and no more. When they start throwing in Golovkin is "ducking" they've moved into a ridiculous territory. Canelo is the guy who brings in more views. He is the headliner. Without him Golovkin is not making anywhere near the type of money he does with Canelo. Golovkin does bring in views and Canelo also benefits. I think Canelo actually also now has more to gain if he were to win going forward than Golovkin would. Excluding money in this one fight Canelo has more to lose by it not happening IMO. The more I look at it the more I realize Canelo is not going to get hurt by testing positive. Yeah, his reputation is shot in some corners but his diehard base will not leave him and he can always make big fights on the 2 biggest weekends.

Maybe so. But reading alot of the posts on this subject, alot of posters, especially some GGG fans, think the split should now be 50/50 since Canelo got flagged and suspended. I will never put my fandom before my reason. I am a Golovkin fan. Yeah in a fair world he might get 50/50 but we are dealing with facts. Anyone no less than 50/50 is either a fan or not dealing with the real world. Same with the Canelo fan who says 35% and no more. When they start throwing in Golovkin is "ducking" they've moved into a ridiculous territory. Canelo is the guy who brings in more views. He is the headliner. Without him Golovkin is not making anywhere near the type of money he does with Canelo. Golovkin does bring in views and Canelo also benefits. I think Canelo actually also now has more to gain if he were to win going forward than Golovkin would. Excluding money in this one fight Canelo has more to lose by it not happening IMO.

GGG wants a 50/50 split even though he can barely do 100k PPV buys without canelo :lol1: How can anyone defend this??? GGG killed the negotiations with this ridiculous demand :rofl:

I think the 50/50 was just a starting point, I do not believe for one second think they believe that is what the final deal would be. I think 40-45% was more likely. I think most likely 42% at max but no less than 40% is probably what they were thinking. I think that is reasonable. From GBP I might not relent past 40%. This really isn't all that difficult. I hope GBP is just playing a little hard ball but IDK. If they straight up just walked away then I tend to think they weren't willing to bug one penny from 35% and that is not reasonable given what Canelo failed to do. They only do that if they really believe Canelo's last 9 months have not had any impact on his earning potential, I think they are misguided there. Also, I really do not see who out there is going to give Canelo the type of money he can make with Golovkin. Lots of those fights will pay much less and have substantial risk. Maybe so. But reading alot of the posts on this subject, alot of posters, especially some GGG fans, think the split should now be 50/50 since Canelo got flagged and suspended.

GGG is playing hardball as IMO he should. Coka dela Spatula and Clenelo are doing the same. IMO this is all posturing and a deal will get done for September because there is too much money to be made. GGG is getting screwed here but I don't think a positive test suddenly means he is entitled to a 50/50 split. Yes he should get something more than he originally was but lets not get crazy I think the 50/50 was just a starting point, I do not believe for one second think they believe that is what the final deal would be. I think 40-45% was more likely. I think most likely 42% at max but no less than 40% is probably what they were thinking. I think that is reasonable. From GBP I might not relent past 40%. This really isn't all that difficult. I hope GBP is just playing a little hard ball but IDK. If they straight up just walked away then I tend to think they weren't willing to bug one penny from 35% and that is not reasonable given what Canelo failed to do. They only do that if they really believe Canelo's last 9 months have not had any impact on his earning potential, I think they are misguided there. Also, I really do not see who out there is going to give Canelo the type of money he can make with Golovkin. Lots of those fights will pay much less and have substantial risk.

Team GGG already agreed to terms, they changed it and hence opened up this can of worms we are dealing with now. That is you believing what Golden Boy says to the media.

No it's not deal was in place all GGG had to do was sign then he decided he wants a 50-50 split so he priced himself out !! Second if his so sure that he can beat Canelo and won the first fight why not take the present deal defeat Canelo then he holds all the cards for the 3 rd fight ! Glovokin and his team are throwing away 15 million ( 35%) cause he thinks it's unfair when he just fought for a million dollars against Vans. If he loses the rematch he loses any percentage going forward cause numbers don't lie the man can't sell ppv . Even with his big drama show act and his true Mexican stlye of fighting helped him in the beginning but he layed an egg against DJ . Fought very careful and barely took any chances that night , if it wasn't for the knockdown the fight would've been a draw . Alot of people believed Danny won the fight even with the knockdown . Big Drama show against Jnr middle weights and cab drivers , Super cautious against top notch fighters . Why didn't he walk down DJ and Canelo like he did Brook and Vans , ohh that's right there not Small men !!

1. Canelo drops the belt to GGG 2. Canelo fails 2 drug tests 3. Canelo withdraws from rematch 4. Canelo and team walked away from negotiations and whines like menstruating females to the media "HE ASKED FOR 50/50! HOW DARE HE AFTER I FAILED 2 DRUG TESTS, CANCELLED THE REMATCH AND ROBBED HIM THE FIRST FIGHT!" Canelo wants no part ..... ped free he will get smashed up

I woudn't read too much into it. Nobody walked away. Golden Boy knows they're vulnerable and are trying to act tough that nothing in recent history bothered them. They're acting outraged specifically because of this reason - trying to see if Golovkin is bluffing or not.