Ellie asks about Loma vs Mikey and Robert says Arum wont let Loma fight under Mikey's card even if he could make more money.
This is what and some other posters i seen mentioned before. Loma is ESPN now and Mikey even though is "free agent" don't think he would fight on ESPN.
Might have to be PPV but this will be a hard one to make.
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I think it eventually gets made. Once they both have the stock of the Lightweight titles between them both they really have no other options. Obviously, it's not going to be an easy negotiation being Mikey "seems" loyal to Haymon and Showtime and Arum has his deal with ESPN. They both also aren't "PPV Attractions" so it would be tough to do a "cross Network" promotion unless they do what they did for the AJ vs Klitschko fight and one Network gets LIVE rights and the other Replay.
yeah espn is pushing loma hard...hes like their golovkin...only loma is genuine in wanting to face the best....but they are definitley going to try to make him the face of their boxing program
And they should, he's got all the talent in the world, a little c0cky, but still respectful to his opponents. Etc. Even thanked Linares for giving him a lesson with the knockdown he took. Lomachenko should've given him a bar of neutrogena instead, but classy anyway.
because he has a promoter so he cant do what he wants? mikey is free so he can flex more to make things happen. take less, prove he's better, if he wins, it'll open up to bigger pay day.
Huh? Lomachenko can absolutely take less if he wanted to.
stop making excuses for your boy
So the free agent B-Side now wants to force the A-side ESPN fighter to go to another network and people defend that diva, just because it suits their bias, agena and tribalism?
Are most people doe? Idk. But hell if 300k buys put them in profit fair play maybe its doable to pay them + Arum to count some $100's off the top & fans to see the fight they wanna see. Here's hoping that works cuz idk if anything else does work cept a PPV fight.
yea thats the only way we get that fight
No they definitely ain't paying him that. Or close to it. And thats why that fight probably won't happen. Hope I'm wrong, but if that fight happens within the next 12 or so months I'd be surprised.
Im willing to pay ppv for loma/mikey
Mikey is a damn good fighter and has a great chance of beating Loma, but yeah. I don't know how much he wants tough opposition. Loma wants the hardest fights without question. Mikey? I'm not so sure of that. Easter doesn't look like a hard fight for him. Broner didn't look like a hard fight. Lipinets didn't look 50/50 going in. If Mikey wants to be great, he's got to fight those 50/50 fights.
Loma wants it just like pacquiao wanted it but Arum knows "better" ...
Yea f#ck if Mikey's making 3.5M last time out & Loma is doing 1.2M-1.5M lately idk how you make this fight with how Arum tends to operate. Not thinking about the purse trajectory these guys are on it would make all the sense in the world for them to fight, but idk if they can overcome the purse differences that'll allow all sides to agree. Hope I'm wrong.
I cannot see them keep paying him that. That fight got 618,000 views. I think they just offered him that so he would not be interested in the Linares or Cotta fight at GoldenGirl
Any purse dorks around? Whats both guys making in their last 3 or so fights?
I've seen people mentioning Mikey is making more & that sound about right from what I recall seeing. If thats the case I think it'll be hard to make this fight. Arum isn't great at making fights where his guy is the B side & if what I suspect with the purses is true that makes Loma the B side here.
Mikey made $375,000 against Zlatkinin and 1 million against Broner.
What he made against Lipinets I have no idea.
Loma made 1.2 million for Rigo and someone said 1.5 for Linares as Linares got 1.2 million.
OK I found this. It says Mikey made 3.5 million for Lipinets LOL. If true he hit the jackpot https://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-garcia-wants-make-linares-fight-facing-lipinets--123604
Ellie asks about Loma vs Mikey and Robert says Arum wont let Loma fight under Mikey's card even if he could make more money.
This is what and some other posters i seen mentioned before. Loma is ESPN now and Mikey even though is "free agent" don't think he would fight on ESPN.
Might have to be PPV but this will be a hard one to make.
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We will knock lomachenko out but the fight will never happen because it has to be on our terms. Yup this fight won't happen anytime soon.
I'll take arum's side on this. He gives Lomachenko all the fights he wants the last two fights have been against fighters who are signed with rival promotors and he's had bad blood with both rigo and oscar yet he still got both fights signed. mikey and robert do nothing but talk tough and fight cream puffs and nobodies. mikey is also acting like a diva big time he needs to knock it off he's no top level draw like aj.
Did you see those guys purses? Rigo made 400k. Do you really think Mikey’s gonna sign for 400k? Come on be serious. I don’t know what Lineras made.
Mikey is one of the best boxers in the world and he can beat anyone at 135 or 140 I just want to see him taking tougher fights he could have easily been the one that stopped linares on Saturday instead he fought lipinets a guy who had no business being in the ring with Mikey at this stage of his career. Not to mention the talk of going up in weight and fighting guys like Spence he knows damn well spence would hurt him bad.
I thought Lipnets put up a really good fight for someone so green.
Arum said he's not negotiating because Mikey said he's loyal to Showtime. He said of Mikey wants to be loyal to Showtime then fine but leave him the **** alone.
Bob has already dismissed the idea of even negotiating with Garcia. Fans are busy pointing fingers at one fighter or the other and entirely ignoring the fly in the ointment, Bob Arum. Anyone remember the excuses he gave about Mayweather?I'll take arum's side on this. He gives Lomachenko all the fights he wants the last two fights have been against fighters who are signed with rival promotors and he's had bad blood with both rigo and oscar yet he still got both fights signed. mikey and robert do nothing but talk tough and fight cream puffs and nobodies. mikey is also acting like a diva big time he needs to knock it off he's no top level draw like aj.
Mikey is a damn good fighter and has a great chance of beating Loma, but yeah. I don't know how much he wants tough opposition. Loma wants the hardest fights without question. Mikey? I'm not so sure of that. Easter doesn't look like a hard fight for him. Broner didn't look like a hard fight. Lipinets didn't look 50/50 going in. If Mikey wants to be great, he's got to fight those 50/50 fights.
so who is a 50/50 fight for mikey from 130-140 besides loma?
Nobody
this fight needs to happen and its ppv worthy
3rd biggest fight in boxing behind wilder vs joshua and bud vs spence
It never fails to irritate me when Ellie Sekbach interviews Hispanic people and he speaks in English....most of the people he interviews are native Spanish speakers and he has'nt bothered to learn Spanish. ........WHY????????, ps i dont mean Robert Garcia,im talking about his Dad and many other native Spanish speakers
You’ve been on here for a while, brother. Let’s think a little more critically than this. Let the youngins and the ones who can’t think beyond anything simple come to this conclusion.
Mikey is one of the best boxers in the world and he can beat anyone at 135 or 140 I just want to see him taking tougher fights he could have easily been the one that stopped linares on Saturday instead he fought lipinets a guy who had no business being in the ring with Mikey at this stage of his career. Not to mention the talk of going up in weight and fighting guys like Spence he knows damn well spence would hurt him bad.
Mikey talks a big game but he doesn’t really want to test him self. He is content cherry picking easy belts against guys like zlaticanin and Lipenets.
Don't bring in childish arguments. The guy needs to get paid fairly. Remember when Rigo and Walters rejected low pay and then, when their luck ran out, they took even LESS to get the Loma fights? You expect Mikey to get suckered into that game when he's clearly not starving? Do you let people disrespect you like that? I don't. I've built name value in my profession and I get paid more, the more well-known I become.
I'm not supporting the idea of him being an AJ-level princess but this whole "challenge himself" thing is a cheap way of guilting him for not getting ripped off. This doesn't have to be a moronic May/Pac thing where people need to hate one guy just because they like the other. Both are rare talents with fan support and both deserve to get paid for this fight.
Mikey talks a big game but he doesn’t really want to test him self. He is content cherry picking easy belts against guys like zlaticanin and Lipenets.
You’ve been on here for a while, brother. Let’s think a little more critically than this. Let the youngins and the ones who can’t think beyond anything simple come to this conclusion.