GGG~vs~Hopkins; Who's Run at 160 More Impressive?

Man when you compare “middleweight resume” I think there very similar... hopkins has better names but the best 2 were welterweights... I still think Hopkins edges him.... when ppl compare the 2 I think a lot ppl look at Hopkins career rather than the middleweight run....... if you wanna compare careers it’s not even close, they probably shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence The two best were welterweights? They sanctioned that?

You might be right. I have heard he's more "Edgy" in his first language in interviews, so maybe a lot of his comments have flown under the radar before. I remember when Pacquiao said he thought he was the greatest ever in an English interview but it went completely ignored because of his humble persona. there may be some element lost in translation, well pointed out, ty.

yeh I didnt believe that he did say it, thought it was a fanthing, bt I now realise he really has been quoted as saying it. Very uncharacteristic of him, hes generally limited in his comments (beyond "he is good boy"), but perhaps he is feeling the pressure of fighting top boxers now hes 8 fights into his title run. Still, a neutral wise observer would state that its too early to compare them. You might be right. I have heard he's more "Edgy" in his first language in interviews, so maybe a lot of his comments have flown under the radar before. I remember when Pacquiao said he thought he was the greatest ever in an English interview but it went completely ignored because of his humble persona.

why is someone STILL comparing failed contender Jacobs to HoF multiweight title winning ATG-killer Tito?

I've never denied saying that I have lingering doubts about Jacob's chin. In fact I've said it a more than once in different threads. However Trinidad's chin is much worse than Jacobs. He's been down numerous times. Your trying to imply that I said "Jacobs was not quite a bum in your reply" which is false. In fact I've made my view plain. You will disagree because that what you do. Trinidad at Middleweight wasn't effective. Trinidad has been on the canvas numerous times. Trinidad did not have a close fight with Hopkins. He was outboxed and stopped. When the fight was announced and Trinidad was proclaimed as the favorite I knew he had no chance against Hopkins. I was right. Trinidad is too small for Jacobs. Trinidad would not be able to take Jacobs punches. Fighters who put Tito on the canvas. Yory Boy Campas, Oba Carr, Anthony Stephens, Fernando Vargas, Kevin Lueshing, Alberto Cortes, David Reid, Bernard Hopkins Roy Jones. I have nothing against Trinidad. He got up and fought his heart out but he wouldn't last against Jacobs. He's too big and hits too hard. Trinidad knocked out middleweights before/after Hopkins Jacobs has looked average in his last two outings, in fact his ONLY notable performance is a losing effort to Golovkin..... if the JMW Sukecki could land at will, and survive no problem..... then I would back Trinidad to catch Jacobs with something (probably a hook or straight right-hand) and eventually stop him Jacobs legacy is sooooo thin, that if he loses his next fight..... Murray would replace Jacobs as Golovkin's best win..... so, you are fkn DREAMING lol not only is your your silly, flawed-logic, quadrangle-theory, completely irrelevant..... because the question is, who has the best win, not..... which fighters best win would prevail if those guys fought so yea..... your flawed logic, is just an opinion..... an opinion that could not only EASILY be wrong, it would probably be wrong FACT: Trinidad was great, Jacobs was not :wave:

Is it really unfair if GGG just said his run is far stronger? It's not unfair if he invited it by saying that, imo. yeh I didnt believe that he did say it, thought it was a fanthing, bt I now realise he really has been quoted as saying it. Very uncharacteristic of him, hes generally limited in his comments (beyond "he is good boy"), but perhaps he is feeling the pressure of fighting top boxers now hes 8 fights into his title run. Still, a neutral wise observer would state that its too early to compare them.

Neither are anything special in terms of quality and Golovkin's should only be counted from Geale onwards although it should also include Canelo. Hopkins' is longer and better but honestly without Trinidad the quality would be a close run thing. This. Neither of their list is that great. The longevity sure, but to say a lot of the guys Hopkins fought were so much better than the guys Golovkin fought is a joke.

kid..... FACT: you said this..... but, you had already said this..... so, yea..... I don't think that you should be accusing anyone of lying, you silly fanboy muppet :lol1::D I've never denied saying that I have lingering doubts about Jacob's chin. In fact I've said it a more than once in different threads. However Trinidad's chin is much worse than Jacobs. He's been down numerous times. Your trying to imply that I said "Jacobs was not quite a bum in your reply" which is false. In fact I've made my view plain. You will disagree because that what you do. Trinidad at Middleweight wasn't effective. Trinidad has been on the canvas numerous times. Trinidad did not have a close fight with Hopkins. He was outboxed and stopped. When the fight was announced and Trinidad was proclaimed as the favorite I knew he had no chance against Hopkins. I was right. Trinidad is too small for Jacobs. Trinidad would not be able to take Jacobs punches. Fighters who put Tito on the canvas. Yory Boy Campas, Oba Carr, Anthony Stephens, Fernando Vargas, Kevin Lueshing, Alberto Cortes, David Reid, Bernard Hopkins Roy Jones. I have nothing against Trinidad. He got up and fought his heart out but at middleweight he wouldn't last against Jacobs. He's too big and hits too hard.

GGG 's career is unfinished, unfair comparison. Obviously currently by far hopkins, hes more than double what GGG has. You need to amend GGG's list, it starts with Geale (or without, since they fought FOR a title that noone had won ie they werent taking the title from anyone). IBO doesnt count to anyone other than IBO. It should read from Geale onwards - Marco Antonio Rubio (59-6-1, 51KOs) 34 yrs old. Martin Murray (29-1-1, 12KOs) 32 yrs old. Willie Monroe Jr (19-1-0, 6KOs) 28 yrs old. David Lemieux (34-2-0, 31KOs) 26 yrs old. Dominic Wade (18-0-0, 12KOs) 26 yrs old. Kell Brook (36-0-0, 25KOs) 30 yrs old. Daniel Jacobs (32-1-0, 29KOs) 30 yrs old. Also add Canelo, since a draw is a successful defence. GGG has 8 defences. Hopkins had, what 20? stupid thread at this stage. Is it really unfair if GGG just said his run is far stronger? It's not unfair if he invited it by saying that, imo.

I've never denied saying that I have lingering doubts about Jacob's chin. In fact I've said it a more than once in different threads. However Trinidad's chin is much worse than Jacobs. He's been down numerous times. Your trying to imply that I said "Jacobs was not quite a bum in your reply" which is false. In fact I've made my view plain. You will disagree because that what you do. Trinidad at Middleweight wasn't effective. Trinidad has been on the canvas numerous times. Trinidad did not have a close fight with Hopkins. He was outboxed and stopped. When the fight was announced and Trinidad was proclaimed as the favorite I knew he had no chance against Hopkins. I was right. Trinidad is too small for Jacobs. Trinidad would not be able to take Jacobs punches. Fighters who put Tito on the canvas. Yory Boy Campas, Oba Carr, Anthony Stephens, Fernando Vargas, Kevin Lueshing, Alberto Cortes, David Reid, Bernard Hopkins Roy Jones. I have nothing against Trinidad. He got up and fought his heart out but he wouldn't last against Jacobs. He's too big and hits too hard. Tito Trinidad is a glass jawed joke. Gets put down at WW and gets KTFO by a feather fisted Bhop. I bet he didn't even have cancer when he got KTFO. just LMAO

kid..... FACT: you said this..... but, you had already said this..... so, yea..... I don't think that you should be accusing anyone of lying, you silly fanboy muppet :lol1::D I've never denied saying that I have lingering doubts about Jacob's chin. In fact I've said it a more than once in different threads. However Trinidad's chin is much worse than Jacobs. He's been down numerous times. Your trying to imply that I said "Jacobs was not quite a bum in your reply" which is false. In fact I've made my view plain. You will disagree because that what you do. Trinidad at Middleweight wasn't effective. Trinidad has been on the canvas numerous times. Trinidad did not have a close fight with Hopkins. He was outboxed and stopped. When the fight was announced and Trinidad was proclaimed as the favorite I knew he had no chance against Hopkins. I was right. Trinidad is too small for Jacobs. Trinidad would not be able to take Jacobs punches. Fighters who put Tito on the canvas. Yory Boy Campas, Oba Carr, Anthony Stephens, Fernando Vargas, Kevin Lueshing, Alberto Cortes, David Reid, Bernard Hopkins Roy Jones. I have nothing against Trinidad. He got up and fought his heart out but he wouldn't last against Jacobs. He's too big and hits too hard.

Trinidad was knocked down by numerous fighters. Middleweight was a step too far for him. but, it is not a step too far for Vanes, right ? tell us again how chinny Jacobs..... the guy who YOU are baffled to hear punters refer to as Gennady's best opponent..... could beat Trinidad? :lol1:

Absolutely, without doubt, Trinidad was way too small to be fighting someone like Jacobs, Jacobs would flatten him. Trinidad was knocked down by numerous fighters. Middleweight was a step too far for him.

If I was sad enough to save peoples comments and make a thread about It I would generally start to worry about my wellbeing. Seems a bit sad. who did that ? FACT: that kid is a flip-flopping, story-telling, muppet FACT: so, based on that fact..... I knew that he flip-flopped..... all I had to do was find it, which took 2 mins you can't talk shht around here, you should know that by now he already ended up in my sig by running around telling silly stories

this is another " let's find out who the muppets are " thread :lol1: you passed lol If I was sad enough to save peoples comments and make a thread about It I would generally start to worry about my wellbeing. Seems a bit sad.

Absolutely, without doubt, Trinidad was way too small to be fighting someone like Jacobs, Jacobs would flatten him. like he just flattened the JMW Sulecki ? this is another " let's find out who the muppets are " thread :lol1: you passed lol

:lol1: good thing you can only go on theory, would hate to see you proven wrong, yet again. link ? especially to the " again " part b,b,b,b,but..... :lol1: good luck thinking that fake record will fool anyone in years to come, people will wonder why Hypekin gave a bunch of silly excuses to duck guys like Lara, Ward, Mora, Cotto, Saunders, Derevyanchenko, Charlo..... Hopkins would outclass him, I give Golovkin no chance the version of Taylor who beat Hopkins would beat Golovkin the version of Pavlik who beat Taylor would beat Golovkin the version of Martinez who beat Pavlik would beat Golovkin hell, I even think that the version of Cotto who beat Martinez would probably beat Golovkin

At Middleweight if he fought Jacobs he would lose. No doubt in my mind. Danny is too big for Tito.. Absolutely, without doubt, Trinidad was way too small to be fighting someone like Jacobs, Jacobs would flatten him.

I don't think Hypekin could beat any of those guys Hopkins would outclass him, I give Golovkin no chance the version of Taylor who beat Hopkins would beat Golovkin the version of Pavlik who beat Taylor would beat Golovkin the version of Martinez who beat Pavlik would beat Golovkin hell, I even think that the version of Cotto who beat Martinez would probably beat Golovkin..... which is why the hypejob refused to negotiate on weight with the 153lb SUPERSTAR after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto, Golovkin stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody will step up LMAO..... Golovkin clearly wanted nothing to do with the version of Cotto who was knocking out the same fools that he was knocking out the guys who I just named were the line of lineage since Hopkins..... the guy who ducked little old faded 153lb Cotto, and wants nothing to do with Saunders or Derevyanchenko..... could not beat those REAL middleweights, so his fake record will not fool anyone who has a clue :lol1: good thing you can only go on theory, would hate to see you proven wrong, yet again.

My saying that Jacobs is not a bum and you saying that I called him not quite a bum is decietful. So I'm saying your a liar.. kid..... FACT: you said this..... At Middleweight if Trinidad fought Jacobs he would lose. but, you had already said this..... Jacobs is chinney...... talk about Jacobs being the best fighter Golovkin ever fought is baffling. so, yea..... I don't think that you should be accusing anyone of lying, you silly fanboy muppet :lol1::D