you are so fucking obsessed :rofl:
no its a valid thread because I keep seeing the post stating wilder ducked all the elite fighters at HW and AJ has fought them all, so im wondering who are all these elite HWs he beat. he has the best resume at HW no doubt but its vastly overrated. there are wilder threads bashing him daily that's the real obssesion
I like Wilder.... I think he probably beats Joshua.
But C'mon... Joshua has had 21 bouts.... of course he isn't going to have amazing depth.
Mayweather didn't have great depth after 21 bouts... hardly anyone in the history of boxing has a deep record after 21 bouts. So what's the point in the question?
In fact, using Mayweather as a measuring stick.... Joshua is probably around par with Mayweather after 21 bouts. Klitschko is as good as (if not better than) Hernandez.... Parker is as good as (if not better than) Manfreddy.
I want nothing more than for Joshua Vs Wilder to happen next.... it needs to happen.... but c'mon, don't go trying to set some sort of arbitrary nonsense (5 best wins), to put down a guy who has accomplished a lot in 21 bouts.
Let's face it, Wilder's resume after 40 bouts is trash.... so you can't sh*t on Joshua's resume after 21 bouts, without sh*tting on Wilder's.
That’s boxing fans for you. They pick one side and then trash the other. Why?
AJ has been at world level for not much over 2 years yet his top 5 wins are quite impressive, very impressive compared to Wilder who has 2 guys and not much else.
Larry ask a question. Then people knows qhere he is coming from a mille away. Je replies"its just a question". Then he goes to question every win on joshua resume. Lol.
Larry we all know u by now. Keep hating
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I like Wilder.... I think he probably beats Joshua.
But C'mon... Joshua has had 21 bouts.... of course he isn't going to have amazing depth.
Mayweather didn't have great depth after 21 bouts... hardly anyone in the history of boxing has a deep record after 21 bouts. So what's the point in the question?
In fact, using Mayweather as a measuring stick.... Joshua is probably around par with Mayweather after 21 bouts. Klitschko is as good as (if not better than) Hernandez.... Parker is as good as (if not better than) Manfreddy.
I want nothing more than for Joshua Vs Wilder to happen next.... it needs to happen.... but c'mon, don't go trying to set some sort of arbitrary nonsense (5 best wins), to put down a guy who has accomplished a lot in 21 bouts.
Let's face it, Wilder's resume after 40 bouts is trash.... so you can't sh*t on Joshua's resume after 21 bouts, without sh*tting on Wilder's.
Martin is one of his top 5 wins???wow
I consider it to be , yes. As outlined previously this was a bold step - his first world title. People were questioning if it was too early, Martin was still unbeaten.
Hindsight says he won it easily but if anything that just makes it more impressive on such a big occasion in his career.
Added to that time remember Joshua has had so few fights, half of what Wilder has for example. Infact he has only had six world title fights so far also!
So Breazeale is one of his best wins?
If you have to make a top 5 i'd include him because he's a top 10 Heavyweight. But i wouldnt say its that great of a win, but it was a very good performance from Joshua...pummeled him every second of every round
Larry, what are Wilders top 5 wins
1. Ortiz
2. Luis Ortiz
3. King Kong
4. that cuban Heavyweight monster
5. that old dude with the blood pressure pills
errr
So Breazeale is one of his best wins?
no, you're the one who asked for a TOP 5.
But 5 is 25% of Joshua's record.
His best wins are a solid top three of Wlad, Parker and Whyte.
He has the best record in HW boxing along with Povetkin, then Wilder.
Wlad Klit - A veteran against an up coming prospect who lacks experience at that stage.
Parker - Unification
Whyte - Domestic grudge, real hatred match up
Martin - First world title at only 16 fights
Takam - Very tough fighter.
Special mention - Breazeale but they were both at the same stage before that fight so i don't want to rate it higher.
In my opinion, in order:
1) Wladimir Klitschko (unbelievable fight, unification, hall of famer)
2) Joseph Parker (unification)
3) Charles Martin (first belt and at the time of the fight this was a big bold step, many were questioning it!)
4) Dillian Whyte (first time he had been shook but came back from it)
5) Carlos Takam (suffered early headbutt but got through the adversity and won pretty much every round)
Martin is one of his top 5 wins???wow
In my opinion, in order:
1) Wladimir Klitschko (unbelievable fight, unification, hall of famer)
2) Joseph Parker (unification)
3) Charles Martin (first belt and at the time of the fight this was a big bold step, many were questioning it!)
4) Dillian Whyte (first time he had been shook but came back from it)
5) Carlos Takam (suffered early headbutt but got through the adversity and won pretty much every round)
I don't really consider the Wlad fight as a unification. You unify against other champions. That was just two guys fighting for a vacant title. One having not fought in 2 years
Also what was so bold about the fight with Martin? Martin had done nothing at that point and even now in his career. He shouldn't even of been given that title.
In my opinion, in order:
1) Wladimir Klitschko (unbelievable fight, unification, hall of famer)
2) Joseph Parker (unification)
3) Charles Martin (first belt and at the time of the fight this was a big bold step, many were questioning it!)
4) Dillian Whyte (first time he had been shook but came back from it)
5) Carlos Takam (suffered early headbutt but got through the adversity and won pretty much every round)
Fury had self destructed and was out of the picture. Who else compared to Wlad?
He was 41, just lost and inactive for 2 years..cant really label him the best man