Americans fans are desperate to back wilder with lies and discredit Joshua

Even boxingscene is supporting wilder now, spreading fake news to turn people against Joshua Pathetic It’s clear wilder is the reason the fight has not happened yet they twist facts

Point proven Even with wilder admitting he doesn’t want Joshua, they keep trying to twist the truth

It’s pathetic This sht is still going on Joshua is doing all we can to make the fight, wilder just refuses to fight yet the website is protecting wilders duck and Trying to blame aj

It took you this long to come up with that? STFU U pathetic worm. Smiles, go see a doc. It's obvious.

If i was hearn I'd just keep trolling wilder. The guy ain't far from a nervous breakdown If I were Hearn I wouldn't even waste time trying to convince this guy. Let him line up another long list of Breazeale type fights. Two more meaningless fights will make him feel the waste of time and energy he'll consume; train for weeks, most likely unmotivated, he might even lose.

Says someone with ZERO rep power. You have nothing. Haha haha..... Is that where you get your inspiration from? You just confirmed being a Jon Snow.

I get your argument but just how low do you need this to go? Yes there's a big discrepancy between the two fighters in what they bring to the table. But Wilder is the number 2 guy in the division. He's travelling overseas with the risk that entails. He's maybe going to drum up some excitement in the US market, once the fight is announced at least. If it's a good fight the return in the US would help AJ break that market. You've given the arguments why AJ deserves more, but give Wilder some respect too. I think 65/35 gets the fight made and we can all stop talking about the split and talk about the fight instead! Well it's unfortunate there can't be fight without the split sorted out. Looking at it from the other way, why not wilder take the offer and prove to us that he is the best in the division.

Eddie Hearn sent an offer last Monday. Team Wilder told him on Wednesday they will come back with a counter offer. It's now 9 days later and nothing. Hearn has had zero communication from them other than that. He had to reach out and try to set up a meeting next week but Team Wilder haven't even confirmed they will meet. These are facts from Hearn himself yesterday. That doesn't sound like negotiation to me. That sounds like Hearn is trying to make the fight and Team Wilder dragging their feet. Oh snap I didn’t realize that. Yeah sounds kinda fishy

"I think Wilder would even take 75/25 split AND go to UK for the fight " :omfg: Yet is crying over MONEY ! "providing Hearns/Joshua agree that, if Wilder wins, Joshua takes the same sort of deal for rematch! " :bs2: If hes so confident he would think he WILL win anyway which forces a rematch where he would dictate terms . You can try and spin this anyway you like , no one with logical thought process could justify not taking a fight over fighting guys for under 2 Million when the TOTAL average amount that CAN be made out of the Joshua situation is at least 12 / 14 Million (on table now ) and at least 20 Million in a rematch ( minimum ) ........ Lets do SIMPLE math . No Joshua fight = Fighting for 1 to 2 Million dollar fights . Fighting Joshua = About a total 35 Million in TWO fights . Yea this ones real hard to figure out from team Wilders side , right ? :lol1: Clearly Wilders team AND Wilder dont think he can win if he doesn't take ANY offer !:scared: Yes, all fair points. Maybe wilder should just take the 12.5!

All AJ has to do to get a fight with Wilder is knock off the flat fee BS and offer Wilder a fair 65/35 split in AJ's favor. He has yet to do this so it sure looks like he has no desire to fight Wilder and only makes lowball offers he knows won't be accepted so he can say he tried to make the fight. This seems a little nearer to the situation. Wilder really wants the fight and big payday. Joshua/Hearns can make plenty $$$ taking easier fights. I think Wilder would even take 75/25 split AND go to UK for the fight - providing Hearns/Joshua agree that, if Wilder wins, Joshua takes the same sort of deal for rematch!

Eddie Hearn is a raycisst starbucks employee anyway, he is just shookkk of Wilder and he KNOWS IT! Wulder KOs AJ inside 2, they will no real soon.

He hasn’t responded because they are negotiating you dumb fawk! Eddie Hearn sent an offer last Monday. Team Wilder told him on Wednesday they will come back with a counter offer. It's now 9 days later and nothing. Hearn has had zero communication from them other than that. He had to reach out and try to set up a meeting next week but Team Wilder haven't even confirmed they will meet. These are facts from Hearn himself yesterday. That doesn't sound like negotiation to me. That sounds like Hearn is trying to make the fight and Team Wilder dragging their feet.

The fight will be offered on Showtime PPV. Wilder is American and why shouldn’t he get a cut of the American TV revenue? You really expect him to except a deal with no upside? Parker didn’t so why should Wilder? I think the flat fee was to show Wilder's side who was the A side in the negotiation. It put a value on Wilder's contribution in both commercial and boxing terms. I don't think Hearn expected them to sign it, but I do think he expected them to readjust their expectations of what a percentage deal may look like. Wilder deserves to benefit if the fight does well and take less if it underperforms. That should be a fair principle for any boxing fan to support whatever their nationality or favourite fighter. He deserves a smaller percentage though. He brings less to the table from belts to revenue. I think anything over 30 he should accept but I hope Hearn offers 35 to get the deal over the line so we can look forward to the fight.

tell me gumbo how do they expect wilder to promotoe the fight ? Wilder has already been offered 5x his highest purse and that fght will be held in the uk so again joshua will carry most of the promotion,stadium tickets and attract most of the sky box office ppv........are you still that stupid ? Wilder has zero options of earning 12.5 million in his career and will remain that for wilder. Wilder is a non entity in comparison to AJ lol The fight will be offered on Showtime PPV. Wilder is American and why shouldn’t he get a cut of the American TV revenue? You really expect him to except a deal with no upside? Parker didn’t so why should Wilder?

You think a guy that brings nothing to the table except a belt to get 35% is fair? A guy that has never sold a ppv, finds it difficult to fill a 15k arena and is offered X6 of his biggest payday day deserves 35%? Let's be fair on the guy that will generate most of this funds, what will be his benefit? If am earning 17/18mil a fight and the so called biggest fight of my career is offering me 25/30mil, almost X2 of my regular pay, it's hopeless. Check the scenarios, A) a guy is bringing 4 belts, stadium filled, ppv plus his global image and is guaranteed X2 of his regular pay. B) another guy brings a belt, 15k filled arena, no ppv plus his inferior global image and is guaranteed X6 of his payday. Who among these guys is 65/35 unfair to? Be sincere to yourself. I get your argument but just how low do you need this to go? Yes there's a big discrepancy between the two fighters in what they bring to the table. But Wilder is the number 2 guy in the division. He's travelling overseas with the risk that entails. He's maybe going to drum up some excitement in the US market, once the fight is announced at least. If it's a good fight the return in the US would help AJ break that market. You've given the arguments why AJ deserves more, but give Wilder some respect too. I think 65/35 gets the fight made and we can all stop talking about the split and talk about the fight instead!

American boxing has been on the decline for years, and is at its all time lowest right now. They no longer have the political and financial pull to manipulate everything in their favour and they still haven't reconciled that. The bitterness, jealousy and hatred aimed at Joshua is a direct representation of the self loathing of the american fanbase. Wilder sucks, he was a manufactured last ditch effort at creating an american star and the effort has failed. Hearn is right to say **** you america and **** this wilder guy too You deal on our terms now and if you don't like it you can **** off We dont dance to your tune anymore america. Nobody needs you anymore. As an American I couldn't agree more. I've been sick and tired of Haymons power grabbing, burning bridges everywhere he goes, antics for years. Once he froze out all the competition and rival promotions and networks, it was just like well you got what you wish Al.. let's see you enact your master plan and make boxing great again. But of course that didn't happen. Things are failing miserably with just more of the same bullsh*t. That being said, Hearn has built an awesome presence as the biggest promotion around. Doing it the right way too. By giving the fans what they want. And by doing that, his stable of fighters are better off. You have to expect fierce competition and risk as a professional to keep the momentum going. If you don't, you wind up never reaching the highest level of prosperity and greatness. Wilder and Haymon don't have **** on Joshua and Hearn. Joshua draws massive numbers and crowds like no other. Even moreso, he very simply challenged and dethroned Wlad. Everyone with a brain knows that Wilder as a grown @ss professional man could have made a fight, an investment, with taking on Wlad. But he f*cking didn't. H*ll he probably could have landed Haye, Vitali, Fury, Povetkin.. the list goes on and on. Imo he looked like trash against Ortiz. What with all the slapping and forearm blows. Disgraceful. If he had any sense of professionalism or appeal, he'd rematch Ortiz because there's no body worth a damn out there. God knows he won't consider Povetkin again. His attorneys did it for him already.

I'm rooting for Wilder out of sheer hatred for this guy.

Spot on Notice there isn’t a thread by the Americans staying wilder hasn’t responded in 9 days now to protect his reputation He hasn’t responded because they are negotiating you dumb fawk!

Not to me. Yeah, that's cos you are Jon Snow. You know nothing.

All AJ has to do to get a fight with Wilder is knock off the flat fee BS and offer Wilder a fair 65/35 split in AJ's favor. He has yet to do this so it sure looks like he has no desire to fight Wilder and only makes lowball offers he knows won't be accepted so he can say he tried to make the fight. You think a guy that brings nothing to the table except a belt to get 35% is fair? A guy that has never sold a ppv, finds it difficult to fill a 15k arena and is offered X6 of his biggest payday day deserves 35%? Let's be fair on the guy that will generate most of this funds, what will be his benefit? If am earning 17/18mil a fight and the so called biggest fight of my career is offering me 25/30mil, almost X2 of my regular pay, it's hopeless. Check the scenarios, A) a guy is bringing 4 belts, stadium filled, ppv plus his global image and is guaranteed X2 of his regular pay. B) another guy brings a belt, 15k filled arena, no ppv plus his inferior global image and is guaranteed X6 of his payday. Who among these guys is 65/35 unfair to? Be sincere to yourself.