Is Luis Ortiz the best / most skilled southpaw professional heavyweight boxer ever?

I think Corrie Sanders was he demolished Wlad

Not sure if he has proven that yet. After the Wilder fight, and winner of Joshua Parker, we can start asking those type of questions, if he wins.

Tyson Fury is the most skilled southpaw heavyweight of all time

Based on? If he beats Wilder and defends his title then we can have this discussion. But when you have ex world champion southpaws, like moorer, byrd, Sanders, ibragimov and chagaev I thinks it's a bit premature.

lol @ Byrd or Moorer being special in their era. Moorer had a win over Holyfield and was boxing Foreman's head off prior to getting caught. He was a top 3 guy at HW at one point. Byrd was another guy that was also top 3 at one point, wins over Holyfield and Tua. Ibeabuchi beat him but was absent from the division after going insane. He understandably lost to a super heavy in Vitali. This era is loaded with super heavies.

Easily, Ortiz is a legit super heavy. I see people bringing up Moorer and Byrd but these fighters would have no chance in this current era of super heavies. Special in their era, just gate keepers at best in this era. Put it this way, Ortiz has a whopping 10 inch reach advantage on Byrd, 3 inches in height, and 30lbs in pure muscle with an 80% KO ratio. lol @ Byrd or Moorer being special in their era.

Easily, Ortiz is a legit super heavy. I see people bringing up Moorer and Byrd but these fighters would have no chance in this current era of super heavies. Special in their era, just gate keepers at best in this era. Put it this way, Ortiz has a whopping 10 inch reach advantage on Byrd, 3 inches in height, and 30lbs in pure muscle with an 80% KO ratio.

There haven't been many good southpaw heavyweights that I know of. It really comes down to a fight between Moorer and Ortiz. I think Ortiz could beat him and was a better heavyweight. Ortiz is a big heavyweight while Moorer was a light heavyweight champion before he was heavyweight champion so he was a smaller heavyweight. I think Ortiz has more punching power and a better chin than Moorer. Moorer was right handed but fought from a southpaw stance. Joe Frazier and Sonny Liston were left handed but fought from a right handed stance.

Ibragimov is better than Ortiz ATM.. if Ortiz wins against Wilder then he goes up the list.. Byrd and Moorer are on high on that list..

It You all are forgetting about the one and only, the great 'Prince' Charles Martin. Equal ATM Martin was dominant v Glaskov Equal to Ortiz v Jennings

Byrd Sanders Moorer Ibragimov Just off the top of my head

What if Ortiz loses to Wilder? What If Crawford loses to Thurman? It doesn't change the fact that he is a level above guys like Wilfred, Cotto, Pernell, and Tszyu. Just like if Ortiz loses to Wilder it doesn't change the fact that Ortiz is above Moorer in every way.

Ortiz, had better defense and more of an arsenal imo. It's like Pernell Whitaker and Terence Crawford. Terence Crawford is a more evolved Pernell while Ortiz is a more evolved Moorer. What if Ortiz loses to Wilder?

This. Michael Moorer was class. Ortiz, had better defense and more of an arsenal imo. It's like Pernell Whitaker and Terence Crawford. Terence Crawford is a more evolved Pernell while Ortiz is a more evolved Moorer.

Ortiz has never even been a champion so no...i'd say Chris Byrd or Michael Moorer Might change my opinion if Ortiz is able to beat Wilder

Well then who is a better southpaw heavyweight than Luis Ortiz? What if a boxer is so good that he can avoid trouble altogether? Why does a boxer need to face trouble to be good?I'm not too well versed in heavyweights tbh, I can't name off the top of my head a southpaw heavyweight to be brutally honest with you lol. It may very well be the case that a boxer is so good he avoids trouble, I'm not saying its impossible. But if you do your homework, throughout boxing history every top elite fighter has faced adversity. How you respond or react to it usually determines how good of a fighter you are. Mayweather for example, probably the best defensive fighter of all time, has faced adversity plenty of times throughout his entire career and has always overcame and come out on top. Everyone can call him a chicken, runner etc all of that but none of it matters, we all know he can take a punch we all know he can stand there and bang blow for blow with guys much bigger then him he's proven plenty of times he can handle pressure and as Ward calls it "fighting out of your comfort zone." Overcoming adversity is what separates the elites from the good fighters.

You all are forgetting about the one and only, the great 'Prince' Charles Martin.

People are really high on a guy who hasn't been tested or faced adversity yet as a pro. Until I see him in trouble, when I see how he responds then I will asses how good he is. Both Joshua and Wilder have been in trouble and have overcame hardship multiple times. Say what you want about them. Well then who is a better southpaw heavyweight than Luis Ortiz? What if a boxer is so good that he can avoid trouble altogether? Why does a boxer need to face trouble to be good?

People are really high on a guy who hasn't been tested or faced adversity yet as a pro. Until I see him in trouble, when I see how he responds then I will asses how good he is. Both Joshua and Wilder have been in trouble and have overcame hardship multiple times. Say what you want about them.

I would have Moorer over him due to competition faced/beaten at a proper elite level but wouldn't argue with anyone picking Ortiz. I think this just highlights one of those strange statistics or phenomenon that you occasionally come across, there really haven't been many elite heavyweight lefties. Corie Sanders was pretty good too, but I don't think he loved boxing enough to ever show he's true potential. But a great puncher and very good boxer. You are correct though, so few good lefty heavyweights.