which bracket do u consider to be the deepest? who was your primary pick to win it all? is the winner of the wbss at cruiser a more impressive feat than ward doing it?
my original pick to win super six was dirrell. followed by kessler. ..ward was a true underdog from what I remember.
would u consider the winner of the wbss #1 P4P? because winning the super6 is what landed ward on many P4P lists at the very top.
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There's no.amerixans in the tournament so they won't be rated highly. If there was an unbeaten American cruiser in the tournament and they won it you can bet that people on here would be putting them right near the top.of the p4p list.
The cruiserweight tournament makes American boxing look like a joke.
In the cruiserweight tournament have the top guys of a stacked division all fighting each other in a tournament and going to war without any clinching or dirty tricks.
On the other hand you can already see in the 168 tournament that the Americans are a bunch of divas who don't want to participate, that's why you don't have Zurdo and Hart there who are rather fighting some bums instead.
When did American boxing have fights as good as Usyk vs Breidis and Gassiev vs Dorticos? They had GGG vs Canelo and they managed to **** over even that with judging controversy.
European boxing is proving to be vastly superior to American boxing in terms of organization of the events and fighters actually willing to fight each other.
Cruiserweight tournament is vastly superior. Breidis, Usyk, Gassiev, Dorticos - all the semifinalists were undefeated going in, the top 4 guys in a stacked division, in their prime and with all the momentum. Both semifinal fights were extremely good, competitive and exciting, those were the kind of fights where both fighters get elevated. The final between Usyk and Gassiev will be absolutely epic, it's a hardcore boxing fan's dream.
The super 6 had a bunch of shot fighters who just happened to be relatively known in boxing and a promising Andre Ward who ended up winning but he had few boring performances too. It's certainly wasn't on the level of Usyk and Gassiev going toe-to-toe with power punchers.
168, to me. But hit me up in a year and maybe I'll have changed my mind. I love both tournaments. If Usyk takes it, and nobody else has had a big, big win by then, then I wouldn't mind him being p4p #1. We'll see.
I think Usyk has a case for being in the bottom half of the P4P list as it stood. But to win (if) this tournament while beating quality guys like Briedis and Gassiev bumps him up yet again.
I'm not sure about #1 for the winner, but they deserve to be in the mix towards the top.
I feel the CW has been better than the super 6 was. Not only have the WBSS learnt from the Super 6's mistakes, i also think it's a better calibre of fighter in this tournament.
I think the Cruiserweight tournament. 4 undefeated champions. 168 had Taylor who'd be KO'd a few times, Dirrell who'd yet to prove himself or win a title, Abraham who like Taylor was a smaller man coming up. Gassiev probably had a better status than Froch and Kessler though very good had been dominated by Calzaghe. WBSS has what everyone considered to be the 1-2-3-4 of the division whereas Bute (which turned out to be wrong) was considered the best 168 in the world at that time yet not involved.
Both had good fields. I think the WBSS has a better format by far and 4 guys of similar natural weight classes.
The Super 6 had proven champions and contenders in their prime years. The WBSS has unproven up and comers, aside of Usyk there isn't really anybody you'd consider for your P4P list.
Hopkins set the standard for an elite P4P fighter at 160. That then had an effect on the rest of the fighters at 160 & 168. Cruiser is missing that sort of fighter, their best fighters like Haye & Adamek never stuck around.
The winner should get P4P status, most guys currently on the list have very thin resumes and the winner will have fought better than most guys.