Who is the tougher opponent? Joseph Parker or Luis Ortiz?

Hands down Ortiz, he's the best HW boxer-puncher I've seen in years. Parker is a straight up brawler, Ortiz could do that AND box your head off.

King Kong all the way. Even if he was 10 years older.

definitley lucas browne...no question God, that guy was awful. He sucked so bad.

Parker is a good opponent, but I think Ortiz has the better IQ so sure Ortiz.

definitley lucas browne...no question

You are a nuthugger :) So are the 71.21% of poll voters who picked Ortiz, I guess. :dunno:

Are you angry at how people voted? They have a right to their opinion, dude. You are a nuthugger :)

I think we'll find out after the AJ/Parker fight.

You really are a nuthugger aren't you? Are you angry at how people voted? They have a right to their opinion, dude.

Only 28.46% of the poll voters are going with Joseph Parker. You really are a nuthugger aren't you?

We will see after the fight.

Only 28.46% of the poll voters are going with Joseph Parker.

Ortiz is slightly better because his age has showed and he looked like **** aswell his last few fights before wilder Parker has looked mediocre in his last few fights aswell but he was 10lbs heavier back then and it might had something to do with his elbow injury. He is still improving We will see tomorrow how good he is...

Andy Ruiz and Hughie Fury are crap, let's be honest.

I think it’s clearly Ortiz but Parker will probably be much harder to KO. Ortiz does have some polished skills whereas Parker is quite average in most departments.

Fair enough. But I don't know why Jennings should be a better win than Takam, Ruiz Jr and Hughie Fury. And Ortiz beat Jennings nearly 3 years ago, and he was possibly on PEDs when he did it. He's done nothing much since then ... 3 years is a long time for a fighter in his late 30s. I was careful to say the performance, not just the scalp/outcome, because I rate Takam and Jennings close but Ortiz showed so much stopping ability against Jennings, more than Parker seems to be able to muster at this level so far, even though he came up as a real killer. As for the age and what Ortiz did from Jennings to Wilder, yeah, I get it. It's full of arguables and questionables.

Ortiz is my pick. But if you say Parker is in the same neighborhood, I wouldn't laugh. I consider the Jennings performance to be better than anything Parker has so far. Partly why I say Ortiz. Even though it's a different discussion I also thought Ortiz had a much better chance against Wilder in terms of how I thought they'd match up than Parker would against Joshua. So, in more ways than one I thought Wilder's challenge was bigger. Fair enough. But I don't know why Jennings should be a better win than Takam, Ruiz Jr and Hughie Fury. And Ortiz beat Jennings nearly 3 years ago, and he was possibly on PEDs when he did it. He's done nothing much since then ... 3 years is a long time for a fighter in his late 30s.

Ortiz is my pick. But if you say Parker is in the same neighborhood, I wouldn't laugh. Some damned strange comments in this thread. Parker, 26, is younger than Ortiz - 38 going on 50 and suffering from high blood pressure - and is unbeaten against better opposition ... but Ortiz is obviously a tougher opponent than Parker, and anybody who thinks different is an alt. Yeah .. this is Bscene! I consider the Jennings performance to be better than anything Parker has so far. Partly why I say Ortiz. Even though it's a different discussion I also thought Ortiz had a much better chance against Wilder in terms of how I thought they'd match up than Parker would against Joshua. So, in more ways than one I thought Wilder's challenge was bigger.

Takam was slow and plodding against Parker , yet landed more giving up height and activity !:bottle: Takam wouldn't put pressure on Ortiz bc he would be physically dominated and countered by a bigger , harder hitting HW ! Taking punches from Wilder would and did prove that anyone not named Wilder or Joshua are going to have their hands full as i said they would !:bottle: "Ortiz is old and finished as a boxer, face facts, it's not 2106 man. " You dont deal in facts as much as you do SPECULATION ..... your quote here once again reinforces that ! lol "just admit you don't know what Ortiz has as he hasn't fought a decent opponent in over 2 years. " Seems like i DID know ? What a shocker ,right bc we both know it is me whos been proven wrong thus far between us ? :bottle: "nah mate,you're done if you think Ortiz is on a good run or can even claim to think he would beat Whyte. ortiz is 70 years old! he hasn't fought in 3 years! " :smashfrea Yeah just like he was physically dominated by the younger Parker and Joshua lol You can't honestly say that Ortiz in that shape would dominate Takam, Takam is a ****ing beast compared to Ortiz! hahahaha Younger, faster, and has better stamina, and has fought better opponents.... I'd link a picture of the two of them at their last weigh-ins but I hope you will at least admit that Takam is in WAY better shape than Ortiz, that is a fact! and he is proven going 12 rounds against young guys like Parker and a premature stoppage in the 10th vs Joshua in the time that Ortiz hasn't fought a top guy.... LOL!!! Wilder is so terrible as a boxer he went on the back foot to survive against an unproven, inactive and aging Ortiz. They knew before they had to take him deep and he would tire, they even admitted it after, WILDER's own coach told him in the corner he is gassing! I TOLD YOU BEFORE THAT ORTIZ WOULD NOT HAVE THE STAMINA TO KEEP HIS FAMOUS SKILLS GOING....... and you STILL can't admit I was right and Ortiz was too old and inactive and unproven to go 12 rounds.... all you have to go on is that Jennings went inside and took an uppercut, even though he was gassing in that fight as well. Ortiz is not a top level athlete or boxer, never was.

Ortiz! That's why Joshua avoided/ducked him.