Why do you guys support Loma attempting to cherry pick Gervonta Davis?

I have no problem if Davis doesn't want to fight Loma. I just don't want to hear people say years from now that Davis could have defeated Loma. Coulda, woulda, shoulda at that point. He had his chance and he didn't take it. Also, I want Loma to unify at least two other 130 pound belts before moving up, so maybe Davis should stay away for a bit. If he has a belt he will be a target.

if andre ward were to decide to come back in 2019 would the opponent have to tell him "hey man your relevance from the kovalev fights is fading...no one knows who you are anymore....maybe get some fights and we can talk later" ? Nowadays, boxers are more business-minded. It's all about stock. If you're 1st in line to fight one of boxing's biggest post-Mayweather cash cows, you're telling me you'd move up for a dangerous bout against a less popular fighter, knowing you have a size disadvantage, and won't earn as much money or recognition even if you win? If GGG beat Canelo, that would've launched him into super-stardom. He'd probably lose to Ward, so that would hurt his stock. did marquez tell floyd "hey man..im sorry but that de la hoya fight was like over 2 year ago man i dont think anyone even remembers you"(im sure you will tell me that comparing ward to floyd in a monetary sense is nuts and it is...but the point is about relevance) The thing is, the De La Hoya bout is what made Mayweather a superstar. If anything, he became even more relevant after that fight. if GGG was all about the belts why was he still chasing canelo when canelo gave up the belt? why was golovkin chasing froch and chavez at 168 if he was all about attaining belts and fighting champions? Because everybody has a price, even GGG. He chased Canelo for the fame and fortune, and honestly, I don't blame him. GGG and his team were sus with those memes. They should've kept their mouths shut about the 154lb and 168lb divisions.

There is no change in fans. A champion who stays at his best fighting weight his whole career fighting all the best challengers in his weight class has always been respected and admired. Duran is considered one of the best boxers in history mainly because of his long run as an unbeatable lightweight champion. Bob Foster is an all time great because of his great work as long time 175 champion. The few times he "dared to be great" and got KOed at heavyweight only hurt his legacy. Pryor is another all time great who fought at 140 his whole career. Hopkins was considered a great middleweight and didn't move up until he was 41 years old. Monzon and Hagler never moved up and they are all time greats. I could keep listing all time greats who never moved up a single pound in their career for quite a while. The truth is you and some others just don't like Loma and GGG. You only want them to move up in weight to fight men naturally bigger than themselves in hopes they will lose since no boxer their same weight has been able to beat them. If you like a boxer you don't care if they move up or not. Mayweather didn't move up to dare to be great. He started as a young growing champion and gradually moved up as he out grew each weight class. When he was at his full mature weight of 147 he was careful about who he fought at 154. He fought Cotto who was a small 154 pounder and Canelo at a catch weight when Canelo was still green. He never fought Lara who was probably the best 154 pounder at the time he fought Cotto and Canelo. this really is a crock....you think if hopkins had stop fighting after MW he would be considered a legend and be revered? nope...his resume would be picked apart and any guy coming on here calling him an ATG would get shredded by the Klansmen around here.... your whole post from top to bottom can be torn down...its just garbage

I try to be consistent. One week we are talking about Floma vs M.Garcia, following week Floyd speaks, and Tank becomes the new flavour to intentionally distract from M.Garcia. Davis was a champion at 130, when Loma was trying to get the fight. If you're not prepared to face other champions, you got no business holding your belt. You really believe that Davis is a distraction from Garcia? Mikey Garcia's fighting at 140 now. If he beats Lipinets, which he should, all bets are off. He may or may not move back down. At this point, who knows if Garcia vs Loma will ever happen?

The difference between the Canelo and Ward situations, is that Canelo was a champion in GGG's division, and GGG was his mandatory. Ward's post-Super Six relevance was fading, so it would've been a high risk/low reward fight for GGG, especially compared to Canelo. He had no good reason to choose Ward over Canelo, but Sanchez and Loeffler kept memeing everyone with that "154-168 ez fomi" bullshit. if andre ward were to decide to come back in 2019 would the opponent have to tell him "hey man your relevance from the kovalev fights is fading...no one knows who you are anymore....maybe get some fights and we can talk later" ? did marquez tell floyd "hey man..im sorry but that de la hoya fight was like over 2 year ago man i dont think anyone even remembers you"(im sure you will tell me that comparing ward to floyd in a monetary sense is nuts and it is...but the point is about relevance) if GGG was all about the belts why was he still chasing canelo when canelo gave up the belt? why was golovkin chasing froch and chavez at 168 if he was all about attaining belts and fighting champions? the thing is...theres really no difference...fighters are fighters....canelo actually went back and won a 154 title after dropping the MW title.....so i mean....

best are supposed to fight the best when canelo is "ducking" golovkin(even though he did fight him)....when golovkin is ducking ward its "smart business" The difference between the Canelo and Ward situations, is that Canelo was a champion in GGG's division, and GGG was his mandatory. Ward's post-Super Six relevance was fading, so it would've been a high risk/low reward fight for GGG, especially compared to Canelo. He had no good reason to choose Ward over Canelo, but Sanchez and Loeffler kept memeing everyone with that "154-168 ez fomi" bullshit.

We've seen a change in fans. No longer do they want fighters to challenge themselves. They're happy with them fighting mismatches as long as they keep winning and they can claim they're the best. If Lomachenko stayed at 130 the rest of his career never fighting anyone that can give him a challenge, his fans would be happy.There is no change in fans. A champion who stays at his best fighting weight his whole career fighting all the best challengers in his weight class has always been respected and admired. Duran is considered one of the best boxers in history mainly because of his long run as an unbeatable lightweight champion. Bob Foster is an all time great because of his great work as long time 175 champion. The few times he "dared to be great" and got KOed at heavyweight only hurt his legacy. Pryor is another all time great who fought at 140 his whole career. Hopkins was considered a great middleweight and didn't move up until he was 41 years old. Monzon and Hagler never moved up and they are all time greats. I could keep listing all time greats who never moved up a single pound in their career for quite a while. The truth is you and some others just don't like Loma and GGG. You only want them to move up in weight to fight men naturally bigger than themselves in hopes they will lose since no boxer their same weight has been able to beat them. If you like a boxer you don't care if they move up or not. Mayweather didn't move up to dare to be great. He started as a young growing champion and gradually moved up as he out grew each weight class. When he was at his full mature weight of 147 he was careful about who he fought at 154. He fought Cotto who was a small 154 pounder and Canelo at a catch weight when Canelo was still green. He never fought Lara who was probably the best 154 pounder at the time he fought Cotto and Canelo.

Love it. Justifying a huge duck by calling the other guy a cherry picker. taken from the golovkins ward/canelo playbook

Love it. Justifying a huge duck by calling the other guy a cherry picker.

Fighting an undefeated fighter who was recently champion in the same weight class is a cherry pick now? On what planet? Trollandria?

Davis should have never been allowed to fight for a title since he's so young I guess. Funny thing is if the fight got made you'd probably pick Tank. It's not an interesting fight to me Tank ain't that good and doesn't have a high ceiling IMO. But Berchelt isn't available, WBO 135 belt is being fought for, Linares isn't available, Mikey isn't available so I say why not just as a keep busy fight? That's pure rubbish, and you know it. He's better than good and has a potential to be great. In terms of belts won in the ring, at 22, he equals Golovkin at 35, the most overhyped fighter ever in boxing. Blame Arum/Floyd for fight not happening.

Davis should have never been allowed to fight for a title since he's so young I guess. Funny thing is if the fight got made you'd probably pick Tank. It's not an interesting fight to me Tank ain't that good and doesn't have a high ceiling IMO. But Berchelt isn't available, WBO 135 belt is being fought for, Linares isn't available, Mikey isn't available so I say why not just as a keep busy fight? No, as a proud american I would root for tank and hope he wins :usa2:

Don't you want the best to fight the best? :usa2: Please let me know Loma isn't cherry picking, he's calling out all bums, wtf are you talking about??

Davis should have never been allowed to fight for a title since he's so young I guess. Funny thing is if the fight got made you'd probably pick Tank. It's not an interesting fight to me Tank ain't that good and doesn't have a high ceiling IMO. But Berchelt isn't available, WBO 135 belt is being fought for, Linares isn't available, Mikey isn't available so I say why not just as a keep busy fight?

How can you support a 130 pound world champion in Davis who won't fight another 130 pound champion to show he is the real champion at 130. Loma is trying to unify and prove he is the best 130 boxer in the world and the true champion. That isn't cherry picking. That is doing what a real fighting champion is supposed to do. I don't think it's Davis's fault. He is very young and doing what Mayweather advises him to do. Davis is playing it safe by settling for being a one belt owner at 130 instead of trying to win all the belts. Loma wants all the 130 pound belts and that should be praised not criticized. Davis doesn't have a belt, so unification is clearly not the motivation for Loma.

They think just stacking up wins is being great like Mayweather. Difference is Mayweather was fighting guys viewed as among the top 10 best in the entire sport. Guys like Davis does **** all for Lomachenko really. it gives the fanboys their desired "win" over floyd...which theyve been craving for years....in their minds it will be like loma beating floyd

How can you support a 130 pound world champion in Davis who won't fight another 130 pound champion to show he is the real champion at 130. Loma is trying to unify and prove he is the best 130 boxer in the world and the true champion. That isn't cherry picking. That is doing what a real fighting champion is supposed to do. I don't think it's Davis's fault. He is very young and doing what Mayweather advises him to do. Davis is playing it safe by settling for being a one belt owner at 130 instead of trying to win all the belts. Loma wants all the 130 pound belts and that should be praised not criticized.

We've seen a change in fans. No longer do they want fighters to challenge themselves. They're happy with them fighting mismatches as long as they keep winning and they can claim they're the best. If Lomachenko stayed at 130 the rest of his career never fighting anyone that can give him a challenge, his fans would be happy. of course theyd be fine with it...theyd say "well they were top 10 at 130..what else you want him to do"? ....the old gggroupie excuse but any other guy that moves up and does something in a different class that they dont like "he had to move up he was cutting just to make that last weight class".... this davis/loma fight will most likely be there in two years where its a better fight

davis-23....was fighting 18 loss fighters in 2016...didnt look great in his last fight but of course hes a great opponent for loma so you can all feel like you beat floyd at something...if that fight took place i can guarantee you the next day there would be at least 500 replies spread across various threads making fun of floyd for it.....

it's far from cherry pick but its not the best fight possible. I think the most realistic good fight for Loma is Linares.