I feel that crawdaddy would be for too much for Spence at this point.
Brook saw some success with the jab- I think crawford beats spence rather easily.
All the spence dick ridders are going to ignore this post :lol1:
If Spence was a god, why didn't he win a gold in the olympics. Half the posters on this forum have in-explainable hatred towards Degale, but he won an olympic gold and was a decorated fighter. Spence beat a Brook who was already mentally and physically broken by GGG. The only way he dominates the 147 division if he ends up over-sizing everyone. the guy is literally a 154 pounder melting down to 147 to bully the division. Crawford will beat him if he gets a few fights at that weight. I will continue saying this, unless spence shows me something that isn't basic Thurman will beat him if Spence doesnt come in 10-15 pounds bigger than him
Eh, to be fair to Spence I don't think Brook was broken mentally, I just think he wasn't able to deal with the rigoerous nature of Spence. Everything else I agree with though homie. For what it's worth, there were a few fights were spence was fighting at 150 catch weights.. which if I had to guess was to decide between 147 and 154 and see where he would decide to go.
It depends on how Crawford decides to fight Spence. If he tries trading more than he usually does it won't be an easy fight for him but if he fights him the way he fought Postol he can get a relatively easy decision. I don't think it would as easy as it was vs one dimensional Postol but it won't be that hard.
Crawford lost rounds to less talented guys than Brook.
Crawford lost 3-4 rounds to Gamboa (I would say he is slightly more talented than Brook, but he wasn't a natural Lightweight and Brook was a big Welterweight).
Crawford lost rounds to Ricky Burns.
Crawford even lost rounds to Thomas Dulorme. I'm sure I'm missing a few others.
Suddenly losing rounds to Brook doesn't look too bad now does it?
I'm not sure who I would pick yet. I need to see more from both especially Spence, who just barely got to this level.
I wouldn't mind Spence-Thurman, Spence-Porter, and Spence-D. Garcia in the mean time.
I feel that crawdaddy would be for too much for Spence at this point.
Brook saw some success with the jab- I think crawford beats spence rather easily.
Another shít poster that DKSAB.
You're obviously a troll looking for another troll experience.
Someone asked "If Spence was a god why didn't he win gold at the olympics?"
Not sure how long that guy has been following the sport but someone needs to tell him that
A) The vast majority of Olympic medalists never pan out on the pro level
and
B) Not every really good amateur gets to the Olympics
For example, Bud Crawford didn't even get to go, losing to Saddam Ali and Miguel Gonzalez in trials.
Also, Brook was not mentally or physically broken by Golovkin.
If anything, it was one of the reasons Brook thought he could beat Spence.
Brook, aside from the fractured orbital, really didn't get beat up by G and got the better of the Kazak a lot of that fight, which was stopped after 4 and 2/3 rounds- well before Kell took a beating or was even floored.
Brook took a much worse beating from Errol.
Spence is highly skilled. Bud may be even more so but the small difference in technical excellence will not be enough to offset the physical advantages Errol will enjoy.
If anyone thinks Errol is basic, they need to ask someone who knows better.
postol wasnt respected by me, i thought he was rubbish and i said that pre fight. Him beating matthysse doesnt mean much when you consider that garcia, alexander and a shot zab judah beat him. I have no idea how crawford was an underdog because gamboa was half his size, im not usually one to make a big deal of size differences but that was something else. Im not trying to be disrespectful of these fighters but i dont see anyone whos good on that resume, whereas spence has beaten brook. I'd argue algieri is pretty much as good as anyone on crawfords cv, can say diaz gave peterson problems but then again algieri gave khan problems and beat provodnikov. I'd favour algieri againt basically all of the jr welters crawfords fought thinking about it. im not hating on crawford, hes looked great so far but the opposition is limited, theres still a big question mark by him as there is against any fighter who hasnt fought an elite fighter yet. Now hes in a divsiion where he can do so.
Mattheyse got stiffed on those decisions against Alexander and Judah. No way he lost either bout and he improved a lot after that. Hence the absolute destruction's of Soto and Peterson and then right before Postol an excellent win over Provodnikov. Algieri-Provodnikov was a joke decision too. Algieri survived and won some rounds but in no way won the bout.
Crawford was inexperienced and Gamboa was highly regarded that's probably why the odds were 2-1. I bet $500 on Bud.
I don't think the fight will be easy for either guy, but if it looks easy it will likely be Spence stopping Bud and not the only way around.
I am going to go on record as saying that, barring any injury, Spence stops Bud easier than Spence stopped Brook.
doubt it. spence actually fights back which is something crawfords never experienced in his pro carer. spence is no julius indongo or ricky burns.
Gamboa fought back and at that stage in Crawford's career was a major test (Crawford was a 2-1 underdog in his first title defense). Postol, also fought back and was a well respected champion who had defeated Mattheyse.
Diaz a former Olympic gold medalist (robbed against Peterson) was much better than Bud made him look. Beltran too.
I get that he hasn't faced a murderers row but some fans tend to go overboard on talking his competition down. It's much better than Spence's and Spence has never fought a fighter remotely close to Crawford's talent level, skill set or adaptability.
Moving up to Welter is a huge jump in competition for Crawford. He is super talented, but at 147, I am not even convinced he can contain Shawn Porter.
We will have to see as not only will he be fighting guys his size or bigger, but they have more fire in them than the 140lb guys.
Lol, you dudes really need to go rewatch that fight, and not on sky.
First of all, that fight was 3-3, or 4-2 either way, after 6 rounds...before spence completely took over.
As far as jabs go, Spence probably landed 3-4x as many jabs as brook did, and his jab was probably the shot that broke brook's eye socket.
To answer the question, NOBODY makes easy work of Spence. I like Crawford and think he's the goods, and imo this is a more difficult fight than Thurman, for either guy... but anybody that thinks crawford or spence will be "easy work" for the other guy, dksab.
ya...i highly doubt any WW makes easy work of spence ...at all
I gotta go with Spence. To big strong and physical. Smart patient boxer that goes to the body and breaks down his opponents little by little. The Brook fight was only a taste of what Crawford has to look forward to. Never seen Spence rocked in the ring but I have seen Bud buzzed a few times by lesser and/or smaller fighters. If Spence lights him up, he won’t let off the gas until it’s over and that’ll be it for the Omaha phenom. No Hating on Crawford. I just think Spence is the real deal.
I'd pick Crawford without hesitation and I think the style match favors him heavily but I do believe he should take a fight or two to acclimatize to 147 first in order to build the match into what it deserves to be and also as a precautionary measure.
It wouldn't be easy work. I think Bud takes an early lead after an even couple of feel out rounds and then perhaps Spence closes the distance and slows Bud down but Bud is the most adaptable fighter in the game and has extra dimensions I think he could again swing it in his favor even after Spence closes the gap. 116-112 Crawford.
Yea people forget spence was losing that fight against Kell Brook, Crawford may be able to outbox him until round 12.
Eroll spence is above the comp right now, but not by heaps and bounds.
Say what you want against Brook but he's a real talent and an exceptional fighting skills...but like Khan, Brook has an issue of not concentrating the full 12 rounds and taking the foot off the paddle in later rounds. To me Crawford beats Spence via UD but Spence is relentless which makes a good this a good fight. I think Thurman beats Crawford style makes fight.
Crawford has never fought anyone that hits as hard as Spence either. Brook is a solid WW and a good boxer. Crawford has yet to fight a legit WW. If he fights and beats Horn I wouldn't exactly say that's an indication he will do the same to Spence. Spence has taken punches from Brook who is a large WW. Crawford may not carry that power up to shake him with one punch. It's a compelling fight and 50/50 down the middle. I slightly favor Spence to win.
Nah. It's the exact opposite.
Spence would be too much for Crawford.
I made a thread about Spence being the bigger version of Porter.
Both are human bulldozers, they force their way inside and overwhelm their opponents, except that Porter being smaller, headbutts are not rare.
Crawford will be avoiding Spence for a long time to come.
Spence is a cleaner, more refined version of Porter.