With BJS winning GGG resume has now come in question by some. So why do you think GGG resume lacks names because he was ducked or GGG just didn't fight anybody?
For example take someone like Rigo who was ducked by LSC, Frampton, Mares, Quigg. LSC saying he would fight him but his father said no hes boring, Frampton and Mcguigan saying hes boring and brings no money, Mares saying he would loss to Rigo. Does GGG have opponents that made excuses like that not to fight him?
I remember Sergio and Cotto making excuses anyone else?
He was ducked like a disease. Find me a fighter with good resume who was ducked like a disease.
Everyone loved a piece of Danny Garcia, for example, when he was undefeated. Everyone he fought wanted a rematch. Even Morales wanted a trilogy. Everyone wants a piece of Wilder, as another example. The list goes on.
Those with an objective opinion don't think GGG has a poor resume. It may not be great, but it's above average.
The reason he was hyped so much is because when he was in his prime, he ploughed through top ten contenders whilst losing on a few rounds. Had he won against these guys narrowly it'd be a different story but he knocked them all out impressively.
Guys like Geale, Proksa, Murray, Macklin, Stevens, Rubio, Monroe, Lemiux... who at the time they were top 10, won 5 rounds between them and all got stopped.
Compare that to Jacobs who has Fletcher, Mora, Quillen, Traux, Arias. He knocked out all bar Arias, and got dropped by Mora and Pirog.
Why aren't we criticizing Jabocs resume, or Euwank Jr?
Nobody is calling Jacobs or Eubank Jr p4p material. Golovkin's resume is rubbish for a 36 year old who is supposedly the best. Find me anyone considered to be an ATG or even just HOF with a weaker resume by their mid-30s.
Those with an objective opinion don't think GGG has a poor resume. It may not be great, but it's above average.
The reason he was hyped so much is because when he was in his prime, he ploughed through top ten contenders whilst losing on a few rounds. Had he won against these guys narrowly it'd be a different story but he knocked them all out impressively.
Guys like Geale, Proksa, Murray, Macklin, Stevens, Rubio, Monroe, Lemiux... who at the time they were top 10, won 5 rounds between them and all got stopped.
Compare that to Jacobs who has Fletcher, Mora, Quillen, Traux, Arias. He knocked out all bar Arias, and got dropped by Mora and Pirog.
Why aren't we criticizing Jabocs resume, or Euwank Jr?
Exactly! When two boxers face common opposition and both beat those boxers. We then have to look at HOW they beat them and HOW impressive they looked in terms of accomplishing the main objectives of boxing. Which is offense (landing effective punches on the opponents) and defense (avoiding getting punched in return).
Gennady Golovkin not only beat the best possible opponents he could at 160 pounds, but he beat more of them more convincingly and impressively than any of the other boxers at 160 pounds. He knocked more of his opponents out. He knocked his opponents out quicker on average. He inflicted more damage upon his opponents. Lost fewer rounds and so forth so on. These feats show that he has better offensive and defensive feats than any other boxer at 160 pounds. Thus, he has been the most skilled overall boxer at 160 pounds for the last 5 years. The results speak for themselves!
If Canelo Alvarez (or any other middleweight boxer) can rack up feats that proves based on results that his offensive skills and defensive skills are just as good, then I would give him the same credit as I am currently giving Gennady Golovkin. They must have the feats and results on their record to prove their skills.
Individuals can complain about how Golovkin's 'BEST POSSIBLE OPPONENTS' have been of a poor quality. Well, we'll see if any other middleweight can rack up similar records that Golovkin has against those same / similar opponents in terms of winning, displaying offensive skills and displaying defensive skills.
Those with an objective opinion don't think GGG has a poor resume. It may not be great, but it's above average.
The reason he was hyped so much is because when he was in his prime, he ploughed through top ten contenders whilst losing on a few rounds. Had he won against these guys narrowly it'd be a different story but he knocked them all out impressively.
Guys like Geale, Proksa, Murray, Macklin, Stevens, Rubio, Monroe, Lemiux... who at the time they were top 10, won 5 rounds between them and all got stopped.
Compare that to Jacobs who has Fletcher, Mora, Quillen, Traux, Arias. He knocked out all bar Arias, and got dropped by Mora and Pirog.
Why aren't we criticizing Jabocs resume, or Euwank Jr?
Ducked by whom?
Cotto
Quillin
Canelo for like 2 years until GGG looked beatable
Froch after saying hes too big and too strong
Pretty much every top fighter until he looked vulerable.
He had a weak resume because he was ducked by all the elite names in the MW division( Sturm, Sergio,Cotto, Canelo & Saunders (for a couple years ) even the 2nd tier guys like Barker when he had a strap he wasn't worth the risk to most likely get beat down
So he did what he had to which was fight a lot of middle of the road guys often and winning in dramatic fashion to build up his profile to where it started to make sense for the big $ guys to fight him because he brought $ to the table
Now Age and his competition level has made him look beatable and he has a big $ scrap with Canelo under his belt and has some financial clout and can probably get all the top MW in the ring with him ( Canelo & Jacobs again, Saunders , Charlo & Andrade )
It took a couple years but now he can get the legit names in the ring with him.
He was really avoided a few years ago.Around 2013-2015 nobody wanted any parts of him. Ever since he lost his aura everyone wants to fight him now.He can still beat any top guy though just not the killer he was.
1. There is no argument that he wasn't ducked. That is way too obvious.
2. Weak for what? If you rate him as an ATG middleweight, yes, his whole career resume is weak for that. If you rate him as the top middleweight RIGHT NOW, it's clearly the strongest of the active middleweights. Look at every match against top ten opponents at the middleweight limit and tell me his resume is weak compared to anyone. Golovkin has been the number one middleweight contender under Ring's champion for over four years, I think. lol Nah, wasn't ducked.
With BJS winning GGG resume has now come in question by some. So why do you think GGG resume lacks names because he was ducked or GGG just didn't fight anybody?
Saunders beat Eubank Jr, Monroe Jr and Lemieux. GGG was ducked by the former two, and knocked out the latter two. The only middleweight with a better resume than GGG, is Canelo.
For example take someone like Rigo who was ducked by LSC, Frampton, Mares, Quigg. LSC saying he would fight him but his father said no hes boring, Frampton and Mcguigan saying hes boring and brings no money, Mares saying he would loss to Rigo. Does GGG have opponents that made excuses like that not to fight him?
I remember Sergio and Cotto making excuses anyone else?
Saunders said GGG would knock him and Eubank Jr out on the same night. Canelo vacated the WBC belt just so he wouldn't have to fight GGG, and now has beef with the WBC for trying to put the fight together. Eubank Jr ducked a contract to fight GGG, which is why the Brook match happened.
How wasn't Rigo ducked? They literally all said they didn't want to fight him because he brings no money and didn't want to take the risk. Didn't one of them drop the title rather then fight him? I think it was Frampton.
And ya Cotto wouldn't have looked good. Sturm was another one GGG was gonna fight Pirog but then he got injured.
Seems like everyone is forgetting Peter Quillin.
Edit....someone just mentioned him.
Id say it just unfortunate circumstances in getting him big fights but yea ducked.
Qullian talked it up but never deliverd and Jacobs came
Chavez jr blew it before it could get made
Eubank jr got 💵 greedy and priced himself out in negotiations
Andy Lee was going to fight but a family loss happend and had to cancel the fight
Martinez was just to old and he knew he was to old and would get ktfo
Cottto knew he had no chance
Hassan N Dam his excuse was didn't want to give up his interm belt lol
How wasn't Rigo ducked? They literally all said they didn't want to fight him because he brings no money and didn't want to take the risk. Didn't one of them drop the title rather then fight him? I think it was Frampton.
And ya Cotto wouldn't have looked good. Sturm was another one GGG was gonna fight Pirog but then he got injured.
No, Rigos team couldn't get him a visa for the UK for his fight against Dickens so they had to postpone that fight. And 2 weeks after Rigo beat Dickens Frampton fought Santa Cruz in another weight class.
Rigo wasn't ducked, he couldn't get himself in a position to fight the other guys. Never was a mandatory for anyone, inactive, his manager was just a twitter warrior.
Golovkin was ducked by Sturm, Cotto and Canelo, who then fought him later on. Maybe more but those guys officially avoided fighting him.
But let us be honest, Sturm and Cotto wouldn't look that great on Golovkin's record anway.
How wasn't Rigo ducked? They literally all said they didn't want to fight him because he brings no money and didn't want to take the risk. Didn't one of them drop the title rather then fight him? I think it was Frampton.
And ya Cotto wouldn't have looked good. Sturm was another one GGG was gonna fight Pirog but then he got injured.
Rigo wasn't ducked, he couldn't get himself in a position to fight the other guys. Never was a mandatory for anyone, inactive, his manager was just a twitter warrior.
Golovkin was ducked by Sturm, Cotto and Canelo, who then fought him later on. Maybe more but those guys officially avoided fighting him.
But let us be honest, Sturm and Cotto wouldn't look that great on Golovkin's record anway.
Why would his resume "come in question" Simply because BJS beat Lemuiex?
Yep some people going crazy i want know why they think that and if they do why is his resume lacking in there opinion.
Ducked by whom?
Thats what im asking any examples of him being ducked? With Rigo you have video evidence and interviews of the top fighters ducking him only Nonito was brave enough. GGG i seen Sergio and Cotto but if there is more share.