Loma is a p4p champ and #Biased/#NewMedia doesn't like it

We all have seen the videos come by now... Lomachenko detractors bashing every win he's got and making one excuse after the other excuse... Fact is Lomachenko is the only one who beat a fellow p4p fighter and dominated him and made him quit... with skill, not size. I thought it was a 50/50 fight and Most of the #NewMedia said Rigo would destroy Loma and he would NEVER quit, and look what happened once again.. Got ridiculous comments like 'yeah well if Lomachenko is so great why wont he go and fight Crawford at 147'. These guys are so desperate to see Loma lose again they want him to go up to fight a dude who is 20lbs bigger than him c'mon now lmao You guys of the #Newmedia cant take your L's like a man... just as bad as all the Wardhaters and Kov Fanboys you called out, and probably even worse sore losers. Am i the only one who thinks they just hate to see a european fighter at the top of the sport with great boxing skills? No one is #1 p4p undisputed rn but Loma, Crawford, GGG and Canelo all can make claim to p4p, its between them at this moment. The big youtubers are spreading lies and it's hurting boxing... it has become one big racial war, full off people who make it their own personal race war. Outright Disgusting. Let's start with the excuse that Rigo was too small and inactive... these same people will claim Gamboa as a great win for Crawford (who is probably their #1 p4p), but yet he came up in weight too and was more beaten on size as he was stopped after being knocked down a few times... while Loma made rigo quit with embarassing him with his speed and skill. Secondly "ohh yeah Walters was way too inactive, had a long lay off" Another ridiculous excuse... Walters had a similar and even slightly longer lay off before and Ko'd the dude he was fighting. He had long lay offs regularly. And people also must tend to forget thst gamboa (Great win for terence) came off an even longer lay off than Walters... yet that isnt mentioned? A bit weird isnt it ? Then Lastly Gary Russel was too green ? Hmmm...okay yet i've heard these same people calling Barrera a great win for Ward when Barrera hadnt faced anyone yet and became notable later. Russel became WBC Featherweight champion after the Loma loss and is one of the best in the division rn. So how was he too green but Barrera wasn't ? All of it is hypocritical... both Lomachenko and Crawford are great fighters and belong at the top of the p4p list. The same Excuses are made by both sides.. and it's getting ridiculous. Just give both boxers their due props. Okay rant over.

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no one wants to bash loma for losing to salido....but what you fail to recognize is years of hating on certain fighters by fans of lomachenko...and the loma vs floyd threads....and the loma can beat 147lber threads.....lomas online fans bring this **** on themselves and then they have to make excuses on some "ward low blows kovalev with his american black ref" nonsense.....years of nonsense from certain fans has brought this on as far as loma losing...its not a shame....but mikey fought salido at the same age loma wouldnt have been in the ring with salido if he wasnt comfortable...loma isnt a a novice to boxing...he knows what goes on in the pros and how they train...he probably was training better than most pros when he was still an amatuer and has sparred with many pros...if he didnt feel capable and ready then he didnt belong in there...but he obviously did feel ok with it so its on him...he took an L you dont jump in the ring with a salido in your 2nd pro fight looking for the glory and accolades that comes with that and not be able to take some criticism when you take the L tho Same age but not same ring experience, Loma only had one pro fight. And don't tell me amateur experience counts otherwise I will count amateur achievements in P4P debates and his 2 gold medals make him most def P4P king lol

8y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

I don’t hate anyone. I support plenty of non black fighters. Danny and Mikey Garcia, Mares, Santa Cruz, Carl Frampton and I like Canelo. Not really a fan of Thurman, Porter, Tim Bradley, Ward, who are all black, and Crawford is Ok. Don’t love him don’t hate him. So stop pretending to know what me or my organization is about. You make yourself look foolish. your orginization is all men r not created equal, lol, dr.m l king is wrong in your bigot eyes, lol, blakk lives matter and white , brown , red, etc. dont matter, all lives dont matter to u, lol, just blakk lives so you became the evil bigot and caled yourself the pan africanist, lol me personally, all lives matters including blakk ones as i am a brown man, white lives matters and we need to reeducate these rascist like the pan africanists that act superior to all or the white bigots who do the same or anyone else that behaves like a race deviding moron, lol, foolish in part of you , lol, damn narcississt, lol:hijacked:

8y ago

Outwest_Exp_355

now now, lol, dont be mad about u being a rascist , ol, if you truly feel strongly about your racial profiling over non colored fighters , you should stand by your rediculous views, lol, if you feel a fightr has to be of africn descent to be #1 p4p, lol you stikk by it, lol, hate4 browns, reds, yellows and whites, thats your job here africanist, lol, I don’t hate anyone. I support plenty of non black fighters. Danny and Mikey Garcia, Mares, Santa Cruz, Carl Frampton and I like Canelo. Not really a fan of Thurman, Porter, Tim Bradley, Ward, who are all black, and Crawford is Ok. Don’t love him don’t hate him. So stop pretending to know what me or my organization is about. You make yourself look foolish.

8y ago

sicko

I think the bigger issue is the IGNORANCE that is coming with Loma success and the IGNORANT PEOPLE who are making Loma the face of their AGENDA which we all know what that is. That hurts his Brand more than it helps. To be a SUPERSTAR you need EVERYBODY watching and supporting you. That is what a "Crossover Superstar' is. Loma is very confident but you can tell he really respect this sport and he wants to earn everything and wants nothing given to him. He does have some fans who are extremely Ignorant, no different Mayweather and Pacquiao having similar fans which ultimate made other fans hate them. Where the negativity comes in toward Loma is when fans and people in the media goes TOO FAR with the hype and start disrespecting legends of this sport just to PRAISE Loma. It is really not necessary but it is done out of SPITE. So this is nothing new in boxing! While Ray Leonard was a media darling in his prime, he had A LOT of people who hated him and thought he was Privileged not only because he came from a good family but also the way the media loved him and covered him and called his matches in a bias way for him as well no different than what we complain about today from HBO. What looks bad from a lot of the youtube guys however is that a lot of them are not judging Loma by what they see in the ring. Instead they're stoop so low to TROLLS that they're judging him based on Ignorant Trolls Comments. It is a childish "Well You Disrespected Mayweather So I'm Disrespecting Loma". But fans today are petty like this on ALL SIDES it is not just one side doing it all. Even worse is media guys, guys who write for R I N G Magazine guys who are given Credentials, guys who write for ESPN who are participating in these Adolescent Antics I think it hurts the sport far more than it helps it as a WHOLE when you have this divide among fans and boxing media and nobody is willing to try and put a end to the nonsense! If I'm a Casual new to boxing and I come and see nothing but negativity and racism, I wouldn't want any part of this sport.

8y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

Your a freakin moron. You’re not from East LA take that shyt back to Simi Valley were you belong. now now, lol, dont be mad about u being a rascist , ol, if you truly feel strongly about your racial profiling over non colored fighters , you should stand by your rediculous views, lol, if you feel a fightr has to be of africn descent to be #1 p4p, lol you stikk by it, lol, hate4 browns, reds, yellows and whites, thats your job here africanist, lol,

8y ago

Outwest_Exp_355

u root for any fighter who isnt white, brown or even asian, lol, u r a low key rascist but you pretend to benonbiased but you sukk at being a low key rascist, lol, take care africanist, lol, nyahahahaha Your a freakin moron. You’re not from East LA take that shyt back to Simi Valley were you belong.

8y ago

Street

I really don't like Loma but unlike a bunch of tards around here my rankings are fair. I have Loma ranked at #2 p4p just behind Crawford. I few more wins over the likes of Mikey Garcia should be enough to put him at #1

8y ago

Curt_Henning

I still dont get this Lomachenko/GGG/Pacquiao fanboys narrative My favourite fighter of all time is Floyd Mayweather Jr and i also really appreciate Lomachenko as a fighter same...i like loma too but its not hard to understand the loma/ggg/pac fan narrative...especially if you have been around boxing boards for the last 10 years

8y ago

DuckAdonis

I still dont get this Lomachenko/GGG/Pacquiao fanboys narrative My favourite fighter of all time is Floyd Mayweather Jr and i also really appreciate Lomachenko as a fighter

8y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

Which fighters do I root for? u root for any fighter who isnt white, brown or even asian, lol, u r a low key rascist but you pretend to benonbiased but you sukk at being a low key rascist, lol, take care africanist, lol, nyahahahaha

8y ago

Curt_Henning

I'm not talking about training but ring experience. But I'm not gonna argue. There is nothing to argue bro. He lacked experience and that's more than a fact that you're trying to deny. He just take a full of sht person, or a hater, to bash Loma for losing his second pro fight to an experienced rugged world champion. Especially taking in count this last one cheated on many ways, won by SD and ducked a rematch. no one wants to bash loma for losing to salido....but what you fail to recognize is years of hating on certain fighters by fans of lomachenko...and the loma vs floyd threads....and the loma can beat 147lber threads.....lomas online fans bring this **** on themselves and then they have to make excuses on some "ward low blows kovalev with his american black ref" nonsense.....years of nonsense from certain fans has brought this on as far as loma losing...its not a shame....but mikey fought salido at the same age loma wouldnt have been in the ring with salido if he wasnt comfortable...loma isnt a a novice to boxing...he knows what goes on in the pros and how they train...he probably was training better than most pros when he was still an amatuer and has sparred with many pros...if he didnt feel capable and ready then he didnt belong in there...but he obviously did feel ok with it so its on him...he took an L you dont jump in the ring with a salido in your 2nd pro fight looking for the glory and accolades that comes with that and not be able to take some criticism when you take the L tho

8y ago

BillyBoxing

im not saying he was a seasoned pro...but hes seasoned some guys want to act like he was still training for x4 2 minute rounds against 18 year olds or something....and then on top of that you want to make it sound like he was thrown to the wolves blindly and forced to take on good level comp right off the bat from turning pro none of that happened....loma already likely had a training regimen that rivaled pros his age....and he didnt have to take on the level of comp he did.....but he was comfortable with it because he felt he was prepared enough...if he wasnt i doubt he would have blindly jumped in there like that I'm not talking about training but ring experience. But I'm not gonna argue. There is nothing to argue bro. He lacked experience and that's more than a fact that you're trying to deny. He just take a full of sht person, or a hater, to bash Loma for losing his second pro fight to an experienced rugged world champion. Especially taking in count this last one cheated on many ways, won by SD and ducked a rematch.

8y ago

Outwest_Exp_355

no , u r a low key rascist because of your racial biased name and the quotes and the fighters u root for and the ones you dont, lol, its all psychological and your reverse rascism is like you being a black panther instead of being like dr king, lol, u are a also a narcississist but a stupified one at that, lol, nyahahaha:hijacked: by the way, whats missing from his game for you is that hes not africanist or blakk enough for u, lol, true story Which fighters do I root for?

8y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

So since I don’t think Loma is P4p1 that makes me a racist? That’s some stupid ass shyt right there. I said the man was great I just think there’s something missing in his game. no , u r a low key rascist because of your racial biased name and the quotes and the fighters u root for and the ones you dont, lol, its all psychological and your reverse rascism is like you being a black panther instead of being like dr king, lol, u are a also a narcississist but a stupified one at that, lol, nyahahaha:hijacked: by the way, whats missing from his game for you is that hes not africanist or blakk enough for u, lol, true story

8y ago

Curt_Henning

So Loma was a seasoned pro when he fought Salido? im not saying he was a seasoned pro...but hes seasoned some guys want to act like he was still training for x4 2 minute rounds against 18 year olds or something....and then on top of that you want to make it sound like he was thrown to the wolves blindly and forced to take on good level comp right off the bat from turning pro none of that happened....loma already likely had a training regimen that rivaled pros his age....and he didnt have to take on the level of comp he did.....but he was comfortable with it because he felt he was prepared enough...if he wasnt i doubt he would have blindly jumped in there like that

8y ago

BillyBoxing

my comment isnt stupid loma was how old when he took on salido? loma obviously felt he was prepared enough to make that jump when he did...its on him and his people...if he wasnt fully prepared than it was stupid loma was comfortable making that jump when he did....loma may have been fighting ams but he was training and sparring plenty of guys....he wasnt training for 4 round fights during his entire amatuer career im not one to simply say "omg well fighting in the ams is different than the pros" as some excuse or crutch.....its obvious there is a difference but if you think loma was age 24 and training like he was fighting for 4 round fights you are crazy......loma made the jump quickly because he felt he was prepared for it loma and mikey fought salido at the same AGE!!! difference is one chose to take resume building fillers and the other chose olympic route.......if you think loma went from training for 4 rounders and blindly made the jump to the pros you are nuts....his training regimen wasnt that of your typical 18 year old fighting 4 rounders before he turned pro... So Loma was a seasoned pro when he fought Salido?

8y ago

Outwest_Exp_355

africanists, lol, rascist at heart i see So since I don’t think Loma is P4p1 that makes me a racist? That’s some stupid ass shyt right there. I said the man was great I just think there’s something missing in his game.

8y ago

Tom_Cruise

Well all of these guys have have 20-30+ fights, the difference is that Loma has just 11,Martinez maybe isn't his biggest name but he's a decent opponent,Rigo was small but a master boxer,i would say give him some time, if he gets Berchelt that would be another solid name,and one thing you could say about loma is that he's been the most dominant over his opposition, and for Golovkin,i think he's starting to feel the effects of father time,Crawford right up there with Loma. Canelo very good resume but cotton was also old for instance, think charlie puts him to sleep or at least wins a decision True but Loma is 30 and in his prime, amount of fights doesnt really concern me too much. I think Crawford has been more dominant. Loma wasnt that dominant against GRjnr for example, or Salido obviously. Im not saying Loma doesnt have the talent, not even arguing if other people have him no.1, but for me, he hasnt proved it in the ring yet. I fully expect him too if he can get the opponents. I think he beats Berchelt, Davis and the others at 130 (though I want to see it, especially Berchelt), I also think he beats Garcia at 135 (close but Garcia is a timing fighter, and Loma is so difficult to time). Like I say I just need to see these fights happen rather than thinking I know what would happen.

8y ago

EL_GRINGO7178

Top level opp imo All pretty much on a level. P4P is very weak right now compared to 10 years ago. Most of these guys are spending their primes fighting once in a blue moon against sub standard opposition. Well all of these guys have have 20-30+ fights, the difference is that Loma has just 11,Martinez maybe isn't his biggest name but he's a decent opponent,Rigo was small but a master boxer,i would say give him some time, if he gets Berchelt that would be another solid name,and one thing you could say about loma is that he's been the most dominant over his opposition, and for Golovkin,i think he's starting to feel the effects of father time,Crawford right up there with Loma. Canelo very good resume but cotton was also old for instance, think charlie puts him to sleep or at least wins a decision

8y ago

D4thincarnation

I dont think thats how most people grade P4Panymore tbh. Way too difficult. Whats the point in asking the question of how Anthony Joshua (250lbs) and Wanheng Menayothin (105lbs) would look if they were same size? Impossible question. For me, its about resume, with a healthy dose of 'what have you done for me lately'. You just imagine how a fight would go down if they are at the same weight. You know their technical skills power, speed. It not an exact science and really shouldn't taken too serriously

8y ago