Wilder's DuckSquad Army on YouTube are working overtime for damage control following Wilder's comment 50-50 or NO FIGHT. It's actually amusing..
Thaboxingvoice aka WildersVoice are trying to be reasonable. They are the least bias because they've acknowledged Wilder's commercial value is not worth 50% but they are dreaming up ways Wilder could demand 50%. One of thier examples was if Wilder fights Haye in a PPV in the US next year he'll then be worth 50%.. LOL talk about reaching.
78sportstv must be dangling off Wilder's sack because he straight up believes Wilder is worth 50% and sees nothing wrong with Wilder's "50-50 or NO FIGHT" statement.
Dontae Boxing Nation also believes Wilder is with 50% as he's the WBC champ. This is the same guy that called GGG a duck for not taking 10mil offer from Canelo stating "Canelo is the A side. In his video he literally said the most retarded thing ever "If AJ doesn't give Wilder 50% then he's ducking" lolololol.
But BOXINGEGO has took d!ick riding to a new level. He's the leader of the DuckSquad gang. He says Wilder is a smart man by asking for 50-50.. He called it "good business negotiations". But last month he made a video calling AJ a duck because Hearn said no to a 50-50 split... So no 50-50 by AJ makes him a duck but 50-50 by Wilder makes him smart? Lol.. The bias is so cringe.
BOXINGEGO is the same guy that said Pacquiao is B side so he should take Mayweather's low ball offers. He just had a live stream where he said AJ needs to stop being greedy and pay fighters. I told him he is already paying guys like Takam 5mil..thats more than Mayweathers opponents got! Parker and Wilder will get thier career highest payday against AJ even if he only gives them 15% split of the purse.
He then told me that before AJ thinks he's Money Mayweather he needs to go through the Pretty Boy Floyd stage. So I told him yes pretty yes Pretty Boy Floyd took smaller splits against A side guys like DLH and beat all the A sides to become the biggest A side (Money May).
But I flipped his argument back to him and told him AJ is the Money Mayweather of the heavyweight division, he has the best resume, is unified champ and the biggest cash cow.. It's Wilder's job to become Pretty Boy Floyd and take a smaller split to dethrone the A side king to become Money Mayweather but instead he's priced himself out by asking for 50-50 or NO FIGHT.
He then called me an idiot and said I don't know how to negotiate.. He gave me an example of how good he is at negotiating and told me when he went for a job at Walmart they wanted to pay him $15 but he negotiated and asked for $18 and eventually they gave him $16.
I asked him how he thinks Walmart would have reacted if he said "I want $18 per hour or I WON'T WORK"....
He then blocked me lol school'd him so he couldn't take it.
I believe there is a lot more in play here than meets the eye. Wilder and his team also know that his game is weak against a genuine hard-hitting HW contender. That's why he hasn't faced one yet, "failed drug tests" not withstanding.
Exactly. Jay Deas, Mark Breland, Lou DiBella, Shelley Finkel, and Al Haymon know this. They even passed on Hughie Fury (although not a hard hitter) for Gerald Washington to prevent a possible defeat
http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/05/hughie-fury-reveals-february-fight-date-with-wbc-heavyweight-champion-deontay-wilder-6302858/
Most likely Wilder will face Breazeale while Joshua faces Parker. Therefore Joshua would be available in the late summer to fight Wilder.
Path of least resistance.
The fight will not happen.
Look at the actions of the WBC with cases outside of this. Luis Nery keeps his belt. Francisco Vargas was able to fight. But Povetkin and Ortiz aren't, with Povetkin being placed on probation and Ortiz being able to fight one month after he was "supposed" to fight Wilder.
Sulaiman has pushed for the Joshua-Wilder fight to happen on multiple occasions including a few days ago. He does not want that to be jeopardized in any form or fashion.
I believe there is a lot more in play here than meets the eye. Wilder and his team also know that his game is weak against a genuine hard-hitting HW contender. That's why he hasn't faced one yet, "failed drug tests" not withstanding.
If Ortiz passes his drug tests & if Wilder does go through with the fight, I'll be surprised. But if he does, I'll give him props. If he actually beats Ortiz, I'll give him even more props. But I think Ortiz starches him.
The fight will not happen.
Look at the actions of the WBC with cases outside of this. Luis Nery keeps his belt. Francisco Vargas was able to fight. But Povetkin and Ortiz aren't, with Povetkin being placed on probation and Ortiz being able to fight one month after he was "supposed" to fight Wilder.
Sulaiman has pushed for the Joshua-Wilder fight to happen on multiple occasions including a few days ago. He does not want that to be jeopardized in any form or fashion.
I would not give Wilder the fight until he starts showing some respect - This is simple go for Parkers belt win or lose i am sure there will be a rematch for both fighters.
Then leave Wilder to fight his bums in Alabama and rot on twitter AJ does not need his money or the belt Wilder has devalued. Thats it simple argument done.
Nobody gives a shyt about Parker or the WBO title. The longer Joshua waits to fight Wilder the more he will be asked about it. You need to have a strong mental toughness to fight the press. Floyd did it for years but deep down Floyd always knew he was the best. Not sure that would be a successful approach for Joshua.
I agree with you. Nothing wrong with letting the fight simmer a little bit. It’s just the Joshua fanboys acting like Wilder is unworthy is what urks me. We’re all on this site everyday and we all know the business. Joshua fanboys don’t get to play retarded when it suits them.
I would not give Wilder the fight until he starts showing some respect - This is simple go for Parkers belt win or lose i am sure there will be a rematch for both fighters.
Then leave Wilder to fight his bums in Alabama and rot on twitter AJ does not need his money or the belt Wilder has devalued. Thats it simple argument done.
Yeah those youtube bloggers are pathetic. If Deontay prices himself out, I'm not supporting him, but I think we all know hes reaching for the best offer.
A.J is still a fraud, Tyson Fury is trash, the HW is garbage. I really dont give a sh*t.
Break yo'self, fool. Wilder and Fury are comrades now.
Its not about Parker its about the leverage against Wilder who we ALL know will be as unrealistic as he can come spring .
Joshua doesnt even need to fight Parker ,which would actually be hilarious and force them into a Povetkin fight .
At the end of the day if Wilder doesnt get ONE meaningful win he himself brings nothing to to the fight except a belt .
Wilder is just running his mouth. Haymon is the one running point and if a deal can’t be reached it won’t be because Wilder turned it down. It will be because Hearn and Haymon couldn’t come to an agreement. When Haymon says sign here Wilder will sign there.
"Joshua isn’t fighting him next meanwhile Wilders profile is growing day by day. ":burnout:
And no , Joshua will continue to fight relevant fights . Should he get Parkers belt than Wilders argument of 50% gets less credibility more than it is now .
Nobody gives 2 shyts about Parker.
I think Wilder will fight Ortiz next.
If Ortiz passes his drug tests & if Wilder does go through with the fight, I'll be surprised. But if he does, I'll give him props. If he actually beats Ortiz, I'll give him even more props. But I think Ortiz starches him.
He is in it for the money and nothing else. This guy had the opportunity to step up to AJ in April after the Klitschko fight and didn't do it, yet he says that he's fighting "for a legacy"
This is the same guy that wouldn't fight Dillian Whyte unless it was for 7 million dollars...when his own promoter won't put up 2 million for him to fight anyone.
Fact is that he is nowhere near as popular as AJ is from a world scale and he plus his fans need to realize that.
I personally think he is using Joshua name to get more fans/attention, and so far its working for him. He has been the WBC HW champ for 2 and a half years and no one in america knows much about him.
All of a sudden add Joshua to your name and American now realise they have an American HW. Like i have always pointed out, those boxers that claim they fight for legacy are worse than the ones that talk about money/% openly.
This guy is Wilders biggest ball sucker on boxingscene. I hope he shaves his nuts before they go in your mouth.
How are we supposed to have a productive dialog when all you ever do is spout insults and personal attacks?
Are you here to vent misdirected anger or are you hear to talk about boxing?
Not his fault, but let's see what happens next... both are clear to fight; will Wilder fight either one, even if they pass their next tests? I think not. If they failed their tests, why aren't they both suspended?
I think Wilder will fight Ortiz next.
I forgot it’s Wilder’s fault those guys can’t pass a drug test.
Not his fault, but let's see what happens next... both are clear to fight; will Wilder fight either one, even if they pass their next tests? I think not. If they failed their tests, why aren't they both suspended?
Growing? Why, because he beat fat, old, has-been who-never-was Stiverne?? :lol1::lol1: Wilder thanked The Lord when Povetkin and Ortiz failed their drug tests. He's not calling out anyone other than AJ at this point.
I forgot it’s Wilder’s fault those guys can’t pass a drug test.
Joshua is offering Parker 15 million and his fans are up here bytching about money. Smh, smh. A man who’s last fight had 3000 in the seats and 6000 stream on YouTube. You damn right Wilder demanded 50/50. Now I’m not saying he should get it now but it really doesn’t matter now does it? Joshua isn’t fighting him next meanwhile Wilders profile is growing day by day. By the time the fight happens Wilders cut will be closer to 50% because the demand for this fight will warrant it. He put up monster numbers against an unknown like Stiverne, just wait until he puts Ortiz in a coma. That fights gonna do huge numbers for Showtime.
Growing? Why, because he beat fat, old, has-been who-never-was Stiverne?? :lol1::lol1: Wilder thanked The Lord when Povetkin and Ortiz failed their drug tests. He's not calling out anyone other than AJ at this point.
And If Parker fought Wilder on Showtime next he would be lucky to make $1million, let alone 15million!
Imo, Wilder saying 50/50 or no fight amounts to the same thing as Hearn saying that, ideally, AJ vs Wilder should happen in 2019/2020.
If Wilder's US profile is growing. like you say, then why throw away all the extra income that could be generated if they waited a little longer?
I'm not saying I approve of marinating fights, just that, in this case, I can understand why both sides might want to do it.
I agree with you. Nothing wrong with letting the fight simmer a little bit. It’s just the Joshua fanboys acting like Wilder is unworthy is what urks me. We’re all on this site everyday and we all know the business. Joshua fanboys don’t get to play retarded when it suits them.