Both guys are known for being quick but who is faster? Just looking at tapes, Rigo looks like he's a bit quicker than Loma. Rigo has this blurring quick counter left... Loma's speed doesn't LOOK as flashy... thoughts?
Dang! That must've been one hella experience to see that fight live!
For me it certainly was. I was on the edge of my seat. Rigo fought aggressively in the opening rounds, something that surprised and concerned me. The crowd was far more Pinoy than Cuban. Emotions were running high. I was there with a few of my boys from this site. Afterwards we went for a few celebratory beers. It was great.
I was there to witness that. Those were some beautiful closing moments. So many people expected Donaire to ice Rigo. Yet, in the end, the hunter became the hunted. I hope Guillermo has one more performance like that left in him.Dang! That must've been one hella experience to see that fight live!
I was yelling at him to throw that hook to the body during the last round when he had Donaire on his bicycle, protecting that busted up eye with a high guard, ribs fully exposed. Instead, Rigo went head hunting, missed several punches, and Donaire survived. Guess Rigo got too excited. :p
I was there to witness that. Those were some beautiful closing moments. So many people expected Donaire to ice Rigo. Yet, in the end, the hunter became the hunted. I hope Guillermo has one more performance like that left in him.
Rigo has some heavy hands, and he throws punches with bad intentions. That hook to the liver is killer.I was yelling at him to throw that hook to the body during the last round when he had Donaire on his bicycle, protecting that busted up eye with a high guard, ribs fully exposed. Instead, Rigo went head hunting, missed several punches, and Donaire survived. Guess Rigo got too excited. :p
From what I've seen from both guys and from other boxers that are some of the fastest when it comes to punching. Lomachenko's fastest punches are as fast as the fastest boxers today. Including compared to Gary Russel Jr or Amir Khan. Lomachenko, when he decides to explode and let go of his most powerful / fastest punches is one of the fastest punchers in boxing. However, he unlike many others, varies the speed and the rhythm of his punches, which is a testament to his advanced skills obtained from his amateur career.
So I'd think both Rigondeaux and Lomachenko are near even when it comes to punching speed.
When it comes to foot speed and agility, both seem even in those departments as well.
The only downside for Rigondeaux is that there is a chance with the extra weight in a new higher weight division, he maybe slower than he usually is and maybe slower compared to Lomachenko, specifically at 130 pounds. So I guess we'll have to wait and see!
according to boxrec, rigo has a 2.5" reach advantage but when I look at them it doesnt seem like it at all. I dont think loma's arms are unusually short but they list them at 65.5" vs 68" for rigo. They also list loma as 2" taller but I thought the size difference was bigger. Loma looks like he has a better reach advantage maybe because he looks like he has longer legs.
I want to see them side by side in person. I pictured Loma staying outside using his height and combinations, movement ect to outbox rigo. If they are closer in size and loma drops his output and fights Rigo's fight (a slower pace chess match) then he is in trouble.
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Loma got some short arms, and if you look Loma got some long neck, which get him a height closer to 5'7 and Rigo closer to 5'3, they just round the numbers, the difference in height is closer to 4 inches, 3 for sure.
As a Houston Rockets fans I know a guy like Yao had short arms for basketball even when he was over 5 inches taller than Shaq he only have about 2 inch of standing reach advantage due to having a smaller Wingspan.
Rigo has a longer reach, but Loma is taller.
And Walters had a longer reach than Loma. It didn't do him any good.
Walters didn't have the speed, movement, timing, skill, and tenacity of Rigo though. Walters had power but didn't have to the tools to implement. Rigo isn't as big a puncher as Walters but he has serious pop and has all the tools to get those punches on target, while being a defensive master so as to avoid taking a lot of punishment from the bigger Loma
I doubt a gain of 8lb is going to slow him down. Roy Jones was still crazy quick at 175. Rigo will probably weight 130 or less on fight night...Loma will be like 140.
roy jones was still fast at 200 so 8lbs is gonna be a death sentence.
But here's the thing. Rigo has a longer reach than Loma unlike Russell, and also unlike Russell, Rigo is a 2x gold medalist like Loma with incredible timing and footwork himself... So Loma is going to have a very hard time negating Rigo's speed and accuracy with timing. I think Loma will have to eat some shots to get in close and overwhelm Rigo with size and activity.
Rigo has a longer reach, but Loma is taller.
And Walters had a longer reach than Loma. It didn't do him any good.
Rigo's handspeed is faster, lets see how it carries over to 130.
And I agree that Loma wont be throwing much feeler shots because Rigo will be quick to counter.
I don't think reach will play a big part here, Walters had absolutely massive reach, way longer than Rigo's....
I don't know, this is a phenomenal fight and I just don't know which way it will go. I think both fighters will be showing something we have not seen.
May the best man win.
RigoSensei does!
Loma will find it much harder than he thinks to "squash" Rigodeaux Inc he eats that counter left hook!
People forget that Rigo is the harder puncher between them!
A prime FOTY Nonito Donaire is better than both Walters and Russell Jr combined!
This will be a chess match which is Rigos game and Loma will open up which gives Rigo plenty of opportunities especially to the body!
Puncher? Not at 130lbs and not at the rate he delivers his offense (which basically counter-punching).Pound 4 Pound he is the puncher. You can say all you want. Coming fight n ight he is going to be the puncher. I don't know how the fight is going to play. I seen Rigondeaux became a brawler in some fights, and being inactive in others, then explode and go for the kill...
Rigo, but it doesn't matter. Russell has faster hands than Rigo, and Lomachenko's timing negated his speed.
But here's the thing. Rigo has a longer reach than Loma unlike Russell, and also unlike Russell, Rigo is a 2x gold medalist like Loma with incredible timing and footwork himself... So Loma is going to have a very hard time negating Rigo's speed and accuracy with timing. I think Loma will have to eat some shots to get in close and overwhelm Rigo with size and activity.
More important question is can he handle Loma's activity?
I'm pretty sure Loma can hurt him but he cant hurt Loma (read: size advantage).
Loma would be his usual hyperactive self in there.
loma aint gon be throwing all those punches n pitty pats against rigo, he wont be able to play around like he usually does
Loma has far better foot work and angles and seems to have better eye perception when punches are coming The foot work and angles are going to be the difference in who wins had Loma been a guy who just stands there than Rigo would have a chance in winning. Rigo best win is Donaire when comparing Lomachenko to Donaire it's like comparing to Farm leagues to the Majors . Big step in class for Rigo , While Lomachenko has wins over Russel and walters
according to boxrec, rigo has a 2.5" reach advantage but when I look at them it doesnt seem like it at all. I dont think loma's arms are unusually short but they list them at 65.5" vs 68" for rigo. They also list loma as 2" taller but I thought the size difference was bigger. Loma looks like he has a better reach advantage maybe because he looks like he has longer legs.
I want to see them side by side in person. I pictured Loma staying outside using his height and combinations, movement ect to outbox rigo. If they are closer in size and loma drops his output and fights Rigo's fight (a slower pace chess match) then he is in trouble.
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