Lewis-Holyfield 1: Lewis 117-111
Nelson-Fenech 1: Fenech 116-113
Canelo-GGG: GGG 116-112
Whitaker-Chavez: Whitaker 116-112
Leonard-Hearns 2: Hearns 115-112
Hagler-Antuofermo 1: Hagler 145-141
Holyfield-Lewis 1 was the worst as Lewis should have won by 6 points.
still trying to figure out how Golovkin/Alvarez a bad draw when he clearly lost the first 3(and 4 if you weren't listening to Lampley) and 3 of the last 4.
Close enough, my best friend at the time was Wilf Gentzen who was a WW Commonwealth title holder, he went to the Pan Pacific Titles with Jeff and they were close, I met Jeff a number of times through Wilf and it was Wilf that told me how it ruined Jeff mentally, he often sparred Jeff and you could see the fire just wasn't there after that robbery, I was also told by Keith Ellis trainer of his brother Lester a LW WC, Keith worked with Fenech leading up to the Nelson rematch and he said Jeff was going shthouse leading into that fight, a long time ago now lol.
that's cool he had a short but great carear
you were close with him at time to say def?
Close enough, my best friend at the time was Wilf Gentzen who was a WW Commonwealth title holder, he went to the Pan Pacific Titles with Jeff and they were close, I met Jeff a number of times through Wilf and it was Wilf that told me how it ruined Jeff mentally, he often sparred Jeff and you could see the fire just wasn't there after that robbery, I was also told by Keith Ellis trainer of his brother Lester a LW WC, Keith worked with Fenech leading up to the Nelson rematch and he said Jeff was going shthouse leading into that fight, a long time ago now lol.
So predictable that all of the inbred mass shooters would think Ca$hnelo vs. Borat is the worst decision, :rofl:.
These people get so angry when anybody white doesn't get their way.
That is a stupid thing to say..
I know him personally, believe me it mentally destroyed him he was so pumped on that fight when he won and they gave him a draw he was shattered.
Not saying it was the reason for the rematch defeat he looked terrible in sparing and in other fights, it just took the fire out of him.
you were close with him at time to say def?
not sure robb wrecked him look at azumah rec in rematches its unreal btw your were right just watched it!!8-4 9-3 about right
I know him personally, believe me it mentally destroyed him he was so pumped on that fight when he won and they gave him a draw he was shattered.
Not saying it was the reason for the rematch defeat he looked terrible in sparing and in other fights, it just took the fire out of him.
holyfield lewis was pretty bad in pure judging but ggg-canelo left a particularly sour taste because it was so damn predictable. Like you knew going in that there would be some ****ed up comedy scores in favor of canelo.
100%. People were skeptical going into it, and the predictable happened.
Yeah he got smoked in the rematch, the first fight was nip and tuck but I had Jeff winning clearly he just never gave Nelson a second to breath over the whole fight out landed him nearly 2 to 1, that robbery wrecked Fenechs mind he was never the same after that fight.
not sure robb wrecked him look at azumah rec in rematches its unreal btw your were right just watched it!!8-4 9-3 about right
need to watch that one again I think. I know I had fench winning but did not think it was that bad but maybe the rematch got me dismissing it
Yeah he got smoked in the rematch, the first fight was nip and tuck but I had Jeff winning clearly he just never gave Nelson a second to breath over the whole fight out landed him nearly 2 to 1, that robbery wrecked Fenechs mind he was never the same after that fight.
Also Tommy went to CW so effectively he body built and filled out his 6 ft frame through training, even when he stopped training he would retain some of that added bulk, Ray never bulked up like this so pretty much stayed his WW JMW self.
Regarding thread I thought Fenech draw was really bad, Jeff won at least 9 rounds.
need to watch that one again I think. I know I had fench winning but did not think it was that bad but maybe the rematch got me dismissing it
he def bigger but gotta remember hit mans legs and waist are very small his shoulders are just huge makes him look bigger esp in suit
Also Tommy went to CW so effectively he body built and filled out his 6 ft frame through training, even when he stopped training he would retain some of that added bulk, Ray never bulked up like this so pretty much stayed his WW JMW self.
Regarding thread I thought Fenech draw was really bad, Jeff won at least 9 rounds.
GGG/canelo -was bad , I remember good boxing writer predicting a controversial score and ending. Thats how bad it was. It proved once again non north americans have to ko thier north american opponent 85 % of the time.
Lewis/holyfield - Was obviously one sided
And showed the american had to be stopped in order for lewis to win