I'm talking about physical attributes. I ask this because I was listening to Patrice O Neal (RIP) who said slaves were bred for strength and were paired sexually with physically superior partners. Also, only the fittest survived the journey from Africa. He concludes that's why black athletes tend to dominate sports. This isn't conjecture either, there's a slave owners handbook that gives slaveowners tips on breaking slaves physically and mentally:
https://www.africaresource.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=136:race&id=215:willie-lynch-a-brutal-guide-to-breaking-the-enslaved-african&Itemid=346
I can't but help think this has resulted in American black boxers being physically superior to their African and European boxer counterparts and most likely why Wilder beats AJ.
African men appear to have: slightly additional quicker twitch muscles, narrower hips, longer arms and legs, shorter torsos, slightly additional androgenic hormone, higher bone density, etc. These factors, on w/ the form of their bodies, offers them a small advantage in sprints and speed. Key word "slight"
OJ aforesaid it best..."We area unit designed slightly otherwise, designed for speed?skinny calves, long legs, high asses area unit all characteristics of blacks. that is why blacks wear long socks. we've skinny calves, and short socks will not sit up. i am going to argue with any doctor that physically we're double-geared to hurry, and most sports have one thing to try and do with speed."
Not all men we have a tendency tore created equal; we all have our own distinctive qualities and blessings and drawbacks in life. Let's not squabble over the hand God has delt USA. Let's fight on! each race and creed has 'slight' variations among them, no biggie!
Americans had to conquer a wild frontier and fight the Sioux and Iroquois and Apache etc.
Only the strongest survived to breed with each other.
Hence why Americans are superior to the English. :D
Americans superior to the English ? Lol. It was English settlers who conquered the wild frontier not Americans. America became a country after all that ****. All of the 'Americans' who conquered the 'wild frontier' as you put it are from European descent. You do understand where white Americans came from right ?
Also If you read up on the War of Independence you'll learn that it was basically the British empire vs European settlers (The thirteen colonies) Presbyterian English settlers and The Scots/Irish being the fighting pride of all the European settlers and the main reason the colonies won independence and beat the British Empire
RIP to the LEGEND Patrice O'Neal.
And, yes they do. If the NBA and NFL were to close down tomorrow, soccer would see a new age of US domination
HAHA, not true...
A good portion of the US national team has always been afroamerican since the majority of Mexican americans choose to take up dual citizenship and play for mexico, and the US still sucks :lol1:
We are all from Ethiopia, you race-baiting dumb ****.
It is 2017. You should be aware that measuring boxers by the amount of their ancestors’ sun exposure (i.e. race) makes as much as sense as doing it by hair color.
You can clearly log in to a message board.
Use the internet better.
Then create threads.
Makes sense?
Deal.
I'm actually arguing the opposite. The theory is that the American black man's tribulations ensured only the toughest survived. I'm not saying black people are inherently superior, I'm saying black Americans are the cream of the crop when it comes to black athletes.
Unfortunately for black men, the owner of the best Boxing record in history in the most important weight class is a white man, Rocky Marciano. Rocky beat the best black fighters of any era, including Muhammad Ali who went down as Rocky's 50th win in an exhibition.
Also the world record for the largest penis is held by a white man, Jonah Falcon who bested the second largest penis held by white man John Holmes.
So to answer the question, Black men do have advantages in Boxing but it is not genetics. It is reparations, getting an extra 3 rounds minimum on all score cards based on reverse discrimination and white judges fears of being labeled racist.
You’re almost there in no longer misrepresenting my argument. I can see progress in your reply, so that’s progress of a kind.
If you actually took the time to read my reply that I took the time to reply to you, then you’d clearly see that I identified it as unintentional racism. Actually, that’s debatable. I don’t know this person, so I can’t judge his intent. Nor can you.
And yes. Racism triggers me. Where did I deny that?
You know how it’s no longer en vogue to call people red or yellow? You do know red & yellow people history in this country, right? It’s worth a Sunday afternoon documentary binge, if not.
The sooner we let go of black/white, the same ways we let go of red/yellow, it will allow us to start revisiting identifying a people by nationality, and other arbitrary concentrations of humans.
Can you imagine how stupid the question “who is smarter?, blacks or whites?” seems in 2017? I can. And this thread title is only a nominal noun away from asking the same nonsensical question.
It triggers me in the sense that its continued existence deserves public ridicule. And when I logged on to discuss boxing this evening, I saw that the top thread title was (blacks vs whites). I grabbed a cold beer from the fridge, and figured I’d try to plant a flag here on the internet. Why not here? Makes as much sense as anywhere else. Maybe other people will read it someday.
They can enjoy the argument, like I enjoy many on here as well.
See how this whole message-board-celebrating-men-punching-each-other-in-the-face thing works?
Life is the argument.
Anyway, it’s all good, homie.
You’ll catch up someday.
Lavar Ball (father of NBA rookie Lonzo Ball) said in an interview that he married and had kids with another tall athletic woman to increase the chance of having kids who would excel in basketball. I guess he's one of the people who need to "catch up"?
I'm talking about physical attributes. I ask this because I was listening to Patrice O Neal (RIP) who said slaves were bred for strength and were paired sexually with physically superior partners. Also, only the fittest survived the journey from Africa. He concludes that's why black athletes tend to dominate sports. This isn't conjecture either, there's a slave owners handbook that gives slaveowners tips on breaking slaves physically and mentally:
https://www.africaresource.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=136:race&id=215:willie-lynch-a-brutal-guide-to-breaking-the-enslaved-african&Itemid=346
I can't but help think this has resulted in American black boxers being physically superior to their African and European boxer counterparts and most likely why Wilder beats AJ.
You see it in track and field too. The Blacks from America and the Caribbean dominate the 100m.
Sure, historically England has achieved more, mainly because US didn't start seriously playing soccer until 1990, but today US is far superior. Check the standings at the last two World Cups. The US finished higher than England both times. In fact, looking at the last 7 World Cups since the US has actually been playing soccer, England has only went further than the US at 3 tournaments, while the US has went further than England at 2 tournaments.
You guys need to wake up. You're not Germany, Spain, or Italy. Hell you're not even France, Portugal, or Holland. You've never even won a Euro even though you practically invented the damn game. You have one World Cup win 50 years ago that took place in your home country. Without that, you're about as relevant as Denmark (or US) on the world scale.
US got a round further in 2014, but both got to last 16 in 2010 so US didn't finish better. They finished equally. England sucks though but still better than US who are miles behind Mexico currently. Mexico also aren't that good.
Netherlands suck. They will fail to make this World Cup just as they failed to make the Euro's. Spain, Germany, France and Brazil are the only solid national teams. Maybe Belgium too.
Pele?
wasn't he black?
Ronaldo (original one)
lol
I said most, not all.
Football (Soccer) is certainly a sport where black people don't excel over any other race, unlike sports such as sprinting. It's pretty diverse in terms of great players and their background. There's been great black players like the ones you mentioned, then you have other south american's that aren't black like Messi. Great players from all over Europe. Then the likes of Zidane from an Algerian background etc. etc.
It's funny you say that because England is winless in two tries against the US in the World Cup. US won in 1950 and drew in 2010. What does that say about English soccer?
We have plenty of talented players but the managers have been to afraid to drop certain players due to their celebrity status and played them ahead of more deserving players, that's a big part of the reason we haven't done too well in tournaments in recent years. We really lack something as a team despite having quality players. USA have never produced a world class player in their history which is astonishing given the size of the country, but they do have a good togetherness as a team.
We have won a world cup though, reached a semi final too. Aslo, England and USA have played each other 10 times in total, England winning 7 games, USA 2 and 1 draw. So it still says England is far superior of course, but we should be, it's our major sport.
I also posted the a source that you didn't bother to look at, so again, stfu.
Uh, no, sorry, I never made any statements regarding anything outside of this quote. You wanted to say that blacks have more fast twitch, less slow twitch? Well, I don't see how that is the game changer in an endurance sport and if you want to quote something worth mentioning in your source, I'll happily address that too. What, you think this thread is my main priority? I read this as I refresh streams, so I'm not committing to your little link, sorry :(
Yes, in general they have significantly longer limbs than other races. Longer legs make your footwork faster/more effective and longer arms, well that's a no brainer. Shorter torso=smaller target for the body plus the long arms protect it better. I don't know about the old fast twitch muscles theory.
Now of course genetic advantages doesn't make you a better fighter automatically. Same way Samoans aren't the best because they have the better durability.
You know this kind of doesn't help the argument. Fast twitch muscle fibers are good for, uh, lifting maximum loads or sprinting as fast as possible, not for endurance running or endurance sports. Boxing is, last I checked, more like a marathon than a sprint.
Did you bother to read the actual page?
We also have long legs and short bodies.
The only race to have that build.
Look at the rest of what's there moron, it explains it all. Stop acting like you already know everything.
Aside from genetic differences, there seem to be a greater amount of boxing gyms in the inner cities, many with likely years upon years of experience to hone skills. Look at the kronk gym, many great fighters trained there. The styles are also different with each gym, so imo where a fighter cuts his teeth is often what gets solidified into their style from very young.