This is the 3rd different guy that has been caught doing something he shouldn't with Wilder on his schedule.
Yeah, we criticize Deontay with windmill memes and take shots at his resume on the daily.
So why aren't these guys laughing too?
Why are they doing anything but making fun of him, going as far as risking hundreds of thousands of dollars or even millions just to get an edge against a guy that is supposed to be hype, a product of smoke and mirrors?
Once, yeah.
Twice, maybe.
This is the third different guy that felt what he had naturally wasn't enough.
What, if anything, does that say about Deontay?
How would you feel if you knew the guy you were fighting could put you to sleep with one punch.
Gerald Washington was LITERALLY finished with the very first right hand Deontay landed. That **** is scary man.
Just look at Salido vs Lomachenko or Castillo vs Mayweather. Not the most polished fighters either. And these are the most difficult to prepare for.
Good point.
Early Manny is another example.
So you give him credit for stopping an "elite contender" but don't consider neither (yes i know cheats) Povetkin and Ortiz top fighters?!
If so besides Joshua who else is a top fighter at heavyweight..hmm?
Parker? LOL
Ruiz? Don't make me laugh
Tyson Fury? He'll fight AJ b4 Wilder
Who are these elite contenders you speak of? Anyone else would be considered a bum or prospect by you haters!
The man put in effort to get these guys to fight him! He could've never fought Povetkin or never tried and you'd still call him a bum!
He tried with Ortiz who just mucked it up!
Come on 2 top fighters tried to cheat against this man!
Who else do you want him to FIGHT?
Joshua is gonna fight Parker b4 he fights Wilder!
All these guys claim Wilder is a KO waiting to happen but they can't step up without taking an asswhooping or cheating their way out of a fight!
You can only give Wilder so much credit for trying to make these fights, even if the other guys did cheat. He still needs to actually fight & beat some big names in order to get full recognition. Given the bums he's beaten and his occasional amateurish windmill style, I hesitate to call him the baddest HW on the planet.
He realizes it too.
He is the first one to admit he is still on a learning curve but also that he is awkward af.
He takes pride in it, says you can't train for his style, can't simulate him.
And he may have a point.
Just look at Salido vs Lomachenko or Castillo vs Mayweather. Not the most polished fighters either. And these are the most difficult to prepare for.
do you really believe that guys lined up to make more then ever fighting wilder would intentionally be on juice and not clear up before agreeing to tests? do you really believe that? what is happening is you can buy any test result you want with enough money ...negative for you positive for the other guy. so now wilder is the most feared fighter in the world unbeatable WITHOUT FIGHTING ANY ONE THAT MIGHT BEAT HIM. mission accomplished so now he will be "forced" to fight another bum
He signed up the got damn fight!
Most were saying he would never fight Ortiz but cash out against Joshua when it was actually Ortiz who wanted Joshua to cash out on instead of Wilder but Joshua who once again takes no responsibility picks a opponent who's afraid of him over Ortiz but Wilder picks Ortiz and still gets blamed! LMAO
Society is hopeless, college and getting education cannot give you common sense and make you think for yourself that's for damn sure!
Povetkin hasn't done much to be classified as an elite HW, & neither has Ortiz. They have both been popped twice, so it's not all about fighting Wilder. Cheating is what these fools do. They just slipped up on the masking. If Wilder faces and KOs an actaul elite contender, I'll give him credit. Until then, he's BUM SQUAD!!! :lol1:
So you give him credit for stopping an "elite contender" but don't consider neither (yes i know cheats) Povetkin and Ortiz top fighters?!
If so besides Joshua who else is a top fighter at heavyweight..hmm?
Parker? LOL
Ruiz? Don't make me laugh
Tyson Fury? He'll fight AJ b4 Wilder
Who are these elite contenders you speak of? Anyone else would be considered a bum or prospect by you haters!
The man put in effort to get these guys to fight him! He could've never fought Povetkin or never tried and you'd still call him a bum!
He tried with Ortiz who just mucked it up!
Come on 2 top fighters tried to cheat against this man!
Who else do you want him to FIGHT?
Joshua is gonna fight Parker b4 he fights Wilder!
All these guys claim Wilder is a KO waiting to happen but they can't step up without taking an asswhooping or cheating their way out of a fight!
It says they know their fate !
The truth is exposed within a man when he knows his imminent doom is coming and coming real soon!
A very unpleasant feeling that unravels folks with high morals to change them for the worst underneath their character to reveal desperation is the key to survival!
Wilder is unofficially the most feared man in boxing!
Never would I have thought Ortiz would try something that stupid in his biggest fight and a chance to be the champion with his skills!
Wilder still wants to fight him but he has no choice just like against PEDvetkin!
These fools know the baptism is all in Wilder's right hand!
do you really believe that guys lined up to make more then ever fighting wilder would intentionally be on juice and not clear up before agreeing to tests? do you really believe that? what is happening is you can buy any test result you want with enough money ...negative for you positive for the other guy. so now wilder is the most feared fighter in the world unbeatable WITHOUT FIGHTING ANY ONE THAT MIGHT BEAT HIM. mission accomplished so now he will be "forced" to fight another bum
Nah bruh, you love ggg a big KO artist so you should support a KO artist in Wilder!
What's wrong, don't got the completion for the protection of progression?
Wilder was in Russia so that says enough for me!..
Y'all haters keep moving the goalposts on a man who's putting in effort to show his level and test himself against solid opponents and they keep trying to cheat!
Why don't y'all put that negative energy on a guy that's good for boxing onto those that fuk up the sport and make the younger generation make it ok to follow that stupid sh!+!.
If Joshua gets popped whenever they fight then its def settled that he's the most feared fighter in boxing!
Povetkin hasn't done much to be classified as an elite HW, & neither has Ortiz. They have both been popped twice, so it's not all about fighting Wilder. Cheating is what these fools do. They just slipped up on the masking. If Wilder faces and KOs an actaul elite contender, I'll give him credit. Until then, he's BUM SQUAD!!! :lol1:
I actually don't think it is. Lotsa cats will say A and B about some sh^t and some other mfer will say well C isn't true when nobody was talking about C except that mfer that brought up C lol.
I'm sensing a lot of hostility here. :lol1: You're over-analyzing my original statement & arguing against it, although you know it's true.
Or a very high percentage of heavyweights are taking PEDs in general and facing Wilder is the first time they're exposed to somewhat competent testing
very likely, and not just the heavyweights imo.
He's more athletically gifted than half of these focks. He may be wild, but wildeness + scary power + crazy stamina is a dangerous cocᶄtail for some of these textbook and somewhat over the hill boxers. No way Povetkin or Ortiz could feel confident going more than 8 against Wilder without any help.
He realizes it too.
He is the first one to admit he is still on a learning curve but also that he is awkward af.
He takes pride in it, says you can't train for his style, can't simulate him.
And he may have a point.
Nah, bro, Wilder jumped on a plane for Alabama before a decision was even made to postpone the Povetkin fight. They postponed and eventually cancelled because Wilder refused to fight him. Not that I blame him, but he could have chosen to fight if he wanted to.
Nah bruh, you love ggg a big KO artist so you should support a KO artist in Wilder!
What's wrong, don't got the completion for the protection of progression?
Wilder was in Russia so that says enough for me!..
Y'all haters keep moving the goalposts on a man who's putting in effort to show his level and test himself against solid opponents and they keep trying to cheat!
Why don't y'all put that negative energy on a guy that's good for boxing onto those that fuk up the sport and make the younger generation make it ok to follow that stupid sh!+!.
If Joshua gets popped whenever they fight then its def settled that he's the most feared fighter in boxing!
Well i doubt anyone would jeopardize their own payday for something like that. But what i don't get is how could this happen again with Ortiz himself! Surely his team would have informed the testing agency about anything he was taking for his BP or Diabetes.
That's like saying "I doubt Lance Armstrong would jeopardize the Tour de France for something like that."
By that logic, no professional athlete who has ever been caught was guilty because "surely they wouldn't do that."
They do it because they need PEDs to compete at that level. Pure and simply, it's an "I'm not good enough, I need an edge." It's also risk vs. reward. The risk of getting caught is worth the reward if they aren't and can cash in a payday for millions against Joshua down the road. And he's at least in his late 30s, so he needs an edge to have a chance to compete with Wilder.
I believe his last two fights, where he didn't look so good, and which came after he enrolled in VADA testing, he was clean. But vs. Jennings and whatnot, he was probably still dirty. He needs to be the Ortiz of Jennings to have a chance with Wilder or any other true world class heavyweight, and he saw the difference in that last fight.
Got a script to give him a cover story and then said, "Well, let's hope I don't get popped, gimme that stuff!"