Does Ward crack the top 100 of all time?? and if so where?

What? Yes. Just inside the top 50, right about even with Pacquaio. Manny was a more accomplished fighter in 2006. Now think of how much more he has done since then....

I havent done any big lists like this, but I would wager a guess that Ward wouldnt be higher rated than the top 10's of all the original 8 weight classes. Just a guess, but those divisions are crazy deep historically. That gets you to number 80 already. If he is in it will be right down in the 90's probably. A list which many refer to (Mccrains) has these fighters in the 90-100 spots 100. George Foreman 99. Jung Koo Chan 98. Nicolino Locche 97. James Toney 96. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 95. Jack 'Kid' Berg 94. Lennox Lewis 93. Pete Herman 92. Joe Frazier 91. Fritzie Zivic 90. Young Griffo Im by no means an expert on all those fighters. But the ones I do know of really are great fighters. Gonna be tough for Ward imo. Obviously all P4P lists have an inherent subjectivity, but this is a well researched list by a knowledgeable boxing historian.

So, we both have him in the top 100 but you're outraged that I might see top 50. Lol. You are such an angry little clown. :lol1: Nope. I never said he was top 100 for sure, I said he might get in somewhere in the 90s, which is a world of difference from top 50 you clown :usa2: And you saying he might be outside top 20. For a so called boxing fan, you damn sure know too few fighters to not be bale to name at least 50 guys with better careers, better wins and better skills. You are a joke.

Definitely. Probably somewhere in the top 50. Not sure where

I'd say so. Probably somewhere in the 70s-80s range. If he were to keep fighting & beat Stevenson, win a title against one of the top Cruiserweights & than win a Heavyweight title, he would definitely make the top 50.

I could imagine. I'm not about to name 100 greater fighters than him, so I'll just say yes. I'm sure there's a good number of overrated fighters in that list that have zero live footage but fought before film and proper boxing techniques were invented, so these so called historians need to name drop for some reason. I'm sure they can drop one of them for Ward. He belongs in there, somewhere. Probably not top 80 though. Retiring as an undefeated champion helps.

Maybe in the 80s 90s. But I don't have a proper list. His skills and boxing IQ could of taken him to the top 20 but not anymore

Nobody here can compile a top 100 list so it's really hard to say.

yes but nowhere near manny on the list as someone suggested earlier :dead: Yeah Pac >> Ward for sure

Probably in the early 90s or late 80s he is placed. sounds about right

He doesn't even make consideration for atg top 100. Too many better fighters throughout the history.

im not as biased as yall make me out to be..lol.. You showed It with that post.

He ducked Bute doe. Doesn't make my Top 200.

I don't think so. To make this claim, a fighter needs to be either REALLY dominant, or to beat someone within the same (top100 atg) ranking. And he's done neither. I agree his resume is thin when compared to other ATG's

yes but nowhere near manny on the list as someone suggested earlier :dead: I dont know why people are even comparing him to Manny..Manny is clearly ranked far ahead of him as he accomplished far more and has a far greater resume

I think so. But we would need to have a sort of consensus top 100 of all time to get a more precise idea where he ranks. i agree...

Lol this guy is quickly becoming overrated as fck!

This Is actually a very accurate assessment. im not as biased as yall make me out to be..lol..

yes but nowhere near manny on the list as someone suggested earlier :dead:

He has been too inactive and fought alot of fighters on the tail end of their career , he does have a lot of good names on his resume but fights like Chad Dawson and Mikkel Kessler look good only on paper not the actual fight