I never understood the logic of fans of a particular fighter who bash their opponents prior to or after the fight by calling them bums, hype-jobs, overrated, etc.
I see this a lot with Floyd fans. They call Canelo and Cotto overrated, they refer to the likes of Ortiz as a quitter, Maidana, Guerrero and Berto are bums, Pac was a hype job etc.
How much sense does it make to ridicule and bash these fighters? Essentially, what you are doing is saying that your guy (Floyd in this example) fought nothing but bums and hype jobs all his career. News flash, if you want to convince people of your favorite fighter's greatness, wouldn't you want to praise his opposition rather than knock them down?
I observed the same thing with Ward fans when he won against Kovalev. suddenly Kov was a bum, a hype job. Well, how is beating a bum a feather in Ward's cap then? You are basically discrediting your favorite fighter when you claim his opponents are garbage.
Victor Ortiz was giving Floyd problems until he cheapshotted him.
He really was and unlike maidana he could have kept it up for the whole 12 rounds. But he was mentally weak and stayed down
I think both of you watched another fight. If you are really kind to Ortiz you can give him round 2, that's it. Other than that it would've been a blowout if the fight went on.
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I never understood the logic of fans of a particular fighter who bash their opponents prior to or after the fight by calling them bums, hype-jobs, overrated, etc.
I see this a lot with Floyd fans. They call Canelo and Cotto overrated, they refer to the likes of Ortiz as a quitter, Maidana, Guerrero and Berto are bums, Pac was a hype job etc.
How much sense does it make to ridicule and bash these fighters? Essentially, what you are doing is saying that your guy (Floyd in this example) fought nothing but bums and hype jobs all his career. News flash, if you want to convince people of your favorite fighter's greatness, wouldn't you want to praise his opposition rather than knock them down?
I observed the same thing with Ward fans when he won against Kovalev. suddenly Kov was a bum, a hype job. Well, how is beating a bum a feather in Ward's cap then? You are basically discrediting your favorite fighter when you claim his opponents are garbage.
Great point, very true.
Something Rigo fans have been doing for the last 4 years with regards to Donaire. Now that Rigo's resume has come into question, they've changed their tune and have a done a total 180.
Great example. First Donaire is an overrated bum when he lost to Rigo. But since that fight Rigo has accomplished nothing noteworthy, so his fans now ride the glory of that one big win on his record as proof of his greatness. This is what Floyd fans do with Corrales, the one exception to their bum accusations. Still riding that win as though he beat a prime Duran. Suddenly Corrales is an elite level fighter when it suits their argument.
Something Rigo fans have been doing for the last 4 years with regards to Donaire. Now that Rigo's resume has come into question, they've changed their tune and have a done a total 180.
you do the same thing..you trash everyone floyd faces
But I'm not a fan of Floyd, see the difference? His fans are the ones who trash talk his opponents, which is self-defeating. Floyd does it himself, which is really self-defeating. He admittedly called Gatti a C-rate fighter after beating him. So how do you take credit for these hollow victories when you are saying that your opponent is C-rate?
Pac under performed during the Floyd fight he deserved to be called a hype job and Guerrero Ortiz are certified bums.
As we learned, Pac had an injured shoulder going in and was all but one-armed after round 4. He deserves some of the blame, but honestly, when you consider what it took to make that fight, he knew he would not get another shot at Floyd had he pulled out to recover first.
Meanwhile, you dismiss his entire body of work. Classic example of what I am talking about.