GGGgets crticized for having a bad resume. Why doesnt the same happen to Crawford?

Both get unnecessary criticism for reasons that aren't entirely related to Boxing. Both have stepped up when it's available and for the most part dominated. Both are superb fighters and really shouldn't have detractors.

I think Terence is a beast and absolutely one of the best fighters in the world That said he hasn't beaten one truly A level guy in his entire career so far His best win (arguably) just got stopped by a 12 loss fighter And Postol definitely ain't no A guy (his other arguable best win) His resume is barely (if it is at all) better than Golovkin's

Well, the reason why GGG has been hyped by HBO and co early unlike Crawford is because he was a world champ and an olympian medalist in ams, just like how they hyped Korobov, or Taylor, Jirov or now Shakur Stevenson. Nobody knew nothing about Crawford. So Golovkin wasn't that "obscure" in the boxing world, at least hardcore. And some guys are overrating Crawford too, many have him as P4P king. Crawford said himself "I'm P4P king if I beat IDONGO". A guy just wrote in this thread Crawford has ATG status at 140. Each fanbase is doing the same bullsht. I actually made a point not that the fanbases were doing different things, because that's what fans do with their favorites, but rather that both the casual fanfare and professional praise from major outlets, based on the accomplishments/merit, differs enormously and the one getting so much less will provoke less scrutiny as a result. Crawford's praise comes from a much smaller group of hardcore fans and major outlets don't house a lot of prominent Crawford fans, the way Golovkin seems to. Not that I've seen anyway. That was where my point was. You can find outliers, but the in-your-face-every-day gushing and comparisons and ducking threads for Golovkin do not even vaguely match Crawford's. So there's going to be less cynic-motivation. But, to your points, let's look at two things in particular: Did Golovkin have the same amateur career when he was getting no buzz or HBO hype through his first six years as a pro? Didn't Crawford show up on HBO against Prescott only six months after Golovkin made his own very first appearance on HBO against Proksa? If so, that doesn't line up with what you're saying very much. But, again, that's to your points and are only tangentially related to the point I was making.

Crawford is on the cusp of ATG status at 140. GGG needs to beat Canelo and maybe clean out the division for 2-3 years and he will be there too. ATG status lol. Beating Postol and Indongo makes you an ATG? Or are you going to argue because four belts fell into his lap without fighting anyone, that the belts are what matter now? Probably after being a fanboy for Floyd all decade saying "belts don't matter anymore." I mean, not to assume you did personally, but Floyd did and a lot of his fans did. And yes Crawford has moved up 5 pounds more than GGG, but only because he started his career as a weight bully. GGG only walks around 10 to 15 pounds above his fighting weight. Crawford still fights 25 pounds below his normal weight. So even after moving up (5 fricken pounds), Crawford is still fighting at a lower weight, relative to his size, than GGG is. Asking GGG to move to 168 is not like Crawford moving from 135 to 140. Asking GGG to fight at 168 is like asking Crawford to fight at 154. When Crawford fights at 147, then he will finally reach where GGG has already been at. So just because GGG didn't start his career at an artificially low weight, and beat up on smaller guys, as a promotional trick so he could say he won belts in multiple weight classes, like the ATGs Adrien Broner and Ricky Burns LOL, doesn't mean that by moving to 140, Crawford has done more than GGG. Crawford is a 165 pound dude fighting at 140. GGG is a 175 pound dude fighting at 160. So if GGG moved up to 168, he would be a 175 pound dude fighting at 168. If Crawford fought at 154, he would be a 165 pound dude fighting at 154. So even then, Crawford would have an 11 pound cushion over his fighting weight, while GGG would only have a 7 pound cushion. So like I said, when Crawford fights at 154, then you can say he's done what GGG hasn't. As I just showed, even 154 would not be as impressive as GGG fighting at 168. Crawford would have to move to 160 to surpass GGG fighting at 168 in terms of weight class difficulty. The fact Crawford is still fighting in a weight class 25 pounds below his normal weight shows he does not deserve the praise you are giving him relative to GGG. And for the record, I do want to see GGG go as high in weight as he can, same with Crawford. I want the best fights. But let's use the same standards to judge fighters, instead of being manipulated by promoters. Crawford starting out at 135 and making one of the easiest weight jumps in boxing, lightweight to junior welterweight, was a gimmick. I don't even know how he made 135. It must be hell even making 140. So let's not act like he is jumping through the weight classes fighting bigger guys. Similar to Mikey Garcia moving up to 135, Crawford is still the bigger guy even at 140, which just shows how unfair he was at 135. Hell, he's no ATG at 140 yet, but he might have been at 135, regardless of his lack of resumé there! That is one crazy big, fast, powerful 135 pounder. A 165 pound dude fighting at lightweight, hell who could beat him in the history of lightweight? Duran and probably only a handful of other guys. But at 140, no beating Postol and Indongo doesn't make him an ATG or give him an ATG resumé in the division.

What, they don't exist? Did I hurt your feelings? No didn't hurt my feelings. LOL..

weak midget bodies and 3 inch penises.. What, they don't exist? Did I hurt your feelings?

What was racist about what I said? That Golovkin has a racist fan base that root for him to cover up for their insecurities? weak midget bodies and 3 inch penises..

its semantics, spence said he could ko him and outbox him, by saying that he obviously thinks hes capable of beating him or he wouldnt have made the statement, so lets see if he can. ward said he wants the joshua fight so lets see if hes true to his word. if gggs getting criticised for his statement then the other two should too. You're still missing the point mate, Andre Ward said he would "be open" to fighting Joshua, Spence said "he could" beat guys at Middleweight but neither of those guys said they WOULD and were being ducked and were chasing those fights. GGG and his team said they couldn't get fights and were calling out everyone from 154 to 168, then when two guys pulled his card, he rejected both of them. There's a big difference. Golovkin said he was the most feared person in boxing, and then blatantly ducked Ward. I don't mind him not wanting to move up, but then don't say you will fight anyone and everyone when that's obviously not true.

NO I would say USA is far more OPEN to other fighters from different country coming to the USA and being Successful than any other country. While Americans, every country American fighter go to they get BOOED! Americans can't go to Kazakstan, Russian, Ukraine and become Superstars. You honestly think the people in those countries would take an American as their own and help build him into a Superstar in their country....FUK NO! Americans deal with more corruption that anybody in the Amateurs which is the real reason for the lack of Medals and why a lot of the American Kids just turn pro as Teenagers instead of deal with the Corruption! So they cry over what is posted on a Forum is Laughable honestly especially since a lot of these Foreign guys are getting promoted better than most of the Americans in AMERICAN so where is this "RACISM" you Speak? Oh because some people give Ward and Crawford credit for their work and won't just bump them out the way so that your Beloved Eastern Europeans can be first. :lol1: The US vs THEM is in all of us! We're all Racially and Culturally Bias but I think some people have a issue with those who been most dominating in the sport the longest being bias because then it is a bit unfair it is basically a Head Start so yeah people like you don't like it because you're not able to claim who you want to claim as the GREATEST BOXERS EVER! Crawford gets praised the same way others praise Loma and have him high despite the lack of a Resume. Their Ranks are PROJECTIONS based on their PURE TALENTS and how Writers/Reports THINK they will potentially do when they do get a chance to fight the best finally! Crawford has his critics too just like GGG Does! Well said. Good post.

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I brought up race because there seems to be a US vs THEM mentality here on this forum. Now, I must admit that it's usually GGG fans who do this but the black fight fans do it also. All i'm asking is why is Crawford ranked so high when there are other fighters who have similar if not better resumes. Same goes for GGG. I actually have Canelo neck and neck due to the fact that he has a slightly better resume. NO I would say USA is far more OPEN to other fighters from different country coming to the USA and being Successful than any other country. While Americans, every country American fighter go to they get BOOED! Americans can't go to Kazakstan, Russian, Ukraine and become Superstars. You honestly think the people in those countries would take an American as their own and help build him into a Superstar in their country....FUK NO! Americans deal with more corruption that anybody in the Amateurs which is the real reason for the lack of Medals and why a lot of the American Kids just turn pro as Teenagers instead of deal with the Corruption! So they cry over what is posted on a Forum is Laughable honestly especially since a lot of these Foreign guys are getting promoted better than most of the Americans in AMERICAN so where is this "RACISM" you Speak? Oh because some people give Ward and Crawford credit for their work and won't just bump them out the way so that your Beloved Eastern Europeans can be first. :lol1: The US vs THEM is in all of us! We're all Racially and Culturally Bias but I think some people have a issue with those who been most dominating in the sport the longest being bias because then it is a bit unfair it is basically a Head Start so yeah people like you don't like it because you're not able to claim who you want to claim as the GREATEST BOXERS EVER! Crawford gets praised the same way others praise Loma and have him high despite the lack of a Resume. Their Ranks are PROJECTIONS based on their PURE TALENTS and how Writers/Reports THINK they will potentially do when they do get a chance to fight the best finally! Crawford has his critics too just like GGG Does!

Ok, who is better? Between who?

like when wards team said he could beat anthony joshua? Like when errol spence said he could beat golovkin at 160 right now?Or like when Sanchez said GG would fight anyone from 154-175.

You all called Jacobs glass jawed **** fighter before he fought GG. I don't remember anyone saying that about Gamboa or Postol. And you post this? I don't have a problem with GG or Crawford being called the pfp number 2 behind Ward. I don't even see the comparison. And no Jacobs isn't better than anyone on Crawfords resume sorry. Ok, who is better?

except that didnt happen. did you even read the details of wards offer? ward wanted to figth ggg at the same time ggg was schedled to fight for the wbc belt but disingenous people are trying to spin that into ggg waited for canelo instead of fighting ward which was simply not the case. ward wanted ggg to fight him instead of canelo and obviously ggg rejected that. if ward really wanted to fight ggg he would have made him an offer to fight right away but he didnt do that yet his fanboys never call him out over that blunder. wards team knew ggg would not choose ward over canelo/cotto so they tried to make it seem like ggg was ducking them but if you look at the details they knew he would reject that offer. it was a publicity stunt and it sadly worked for some low information fans who dont look into the details. look into the details and tell me how ggg ducked?True boxing fans know that GG didn't duck Ward, but your attempt at an answer to his post is utter bull****.

like when wards team said he could beat anthony joshua? Like when errol spence said he could beat golovkin at 160 right now? You answered your own question. There's a difference between saying "I could do this" and "I will do this". It's like me saying to someone that I could bet £5000 on a fight, doesn't mean i'm gonna do it. But if I was putting it out in the media all the time that I was looking to do it and that I wanted to, they'd expect me to do it.

GGG was being ducked by whom? A guy like Cotto who isnt a mw? or a guy like canelo who is 27 and has 0 wins at MW? or was he ducked by jacobs...oh wait he fought him........ummm....so was he ducked by degale or andre ward or someone else you can say saunders ducked him....but when other guys wait things out, because they are younger, its considered a duck....but of course when ggg ducked ward to wait it out for canelo is a "smart business decision" right? except that didnt happen. did you even read the details of wards offer? ward wanted to figth ggg at the same time ggg was schedled to fight for the wbc belt but disingenous people are trying to spin that into ggg waited for canelo instead of fighting ward which was simply not the case. ward wanted ggg to fight him instead of canelo and obviously ggg rejected that. if ward really wanted to fight ggg he would have made him an offer to fight right away but he didnt do that yet his fanboys never call him out over that blunder. wards team knew ggg would not choose ward over canelo/cotto so they tried to make it seem like ggg was ducking them but if you look at the details they knew he would reject that offer. it was a publicity stunt and it sadly worked for some low information fans who dont look into the details. look into the details and tell me how ggg ducked?

Crawford is praised as being top 2 P4P but if you look at his resume it doesn't scraem P4P 1 or 2 status. For all the **** GGG receives, I must say that Danny Jacobs is better than anything on Crawford's resume. Hell, even Danny Garcia and Amir Khan had better resumes at 140. What's up with all the hype? You all called Jacobs glass jawed **** fighter before he fought GG. I don't remember anyone saying that about Gamboa or Postol. And you post this? I don't have a problem with GG or Crawford being called the pfp number 2 behind Ward. I don't even see the comparison. And no Jacobs isn't better than anyone on Crawfords resume sorry.

I was replying to the comment of people wanting to see other people lose. You forget that Crawford is almost 30 and that when Pac and Floyd were at his age, they were already superstars and considered all time greats. No one is comparing Crawford to Pac or Floyd. I honestly couldn't care less.

Neither guy deserves to be criticized. Both have beaten everyone available to them. They don't fight in the best divisions, but still they are getting it done. Also Postol is pretty damn good. Don't forget Danny ducked him. I think Garcia would have been soundly outboxed by Postol. Burns is a good fighter in his own right. No, just no. I have no doubt that Danny would've stopped Postol. He beat Lucas more convincingly and he defeated Khan who is head and shoulders above Postol. Please dont bring up Ricky Burns, he has always been a a bum.