According to various reports, WBC Champ Wilder will return either September 30 or October 14. If September 30 he will headline with Hurd-Trout as the co-main.
Oh, the opponent being talk about is Dominic Brassiere.
That's just GYM/Stevenson doing w/e they want and maximizing their PBC money.
Gym kept telling EA they're building up the fight and he kept taking other fights to "build up" to stevenson.
Still not that big even though he beat Pascal, but at least EA made some money and upped his record a bit
Yes he has improved his record but as you said, that fight is not big enough to be a high profile fight. It would probably end up in the Bell Centre and be on network television...with a good co-main event
Maybe...Imam's opponents after the Granados fight had a combined record of 42-42-2. That doesn't warrant a #1 ranking in any level.
The WBC has been allowing a lot, though...you see folks getting on the case for Adonis Stevenson as he hasn't fought his mandatory in over a year
That's just GYM/Stevenson doing w/e they want and maximizing their PBC money.
Gym kept telling EA they're building up the fight and he kept taking other fights to "build up" to stevenson.
Still not that big even though he beat Pascal, but at least EA made some money and upped his record a bit
Gotta be the Don King connect... he got dirt on the WBC or something.
Amir Imam is also the 140 WBC mando who beat 2 non-factors since his loss to Granados.... surprise, both with Don King
Maybe...Imam's opponents after the Granados fight had a combined record of 42-42-2. That doesn't warrant a #1 ranking in any level.
The WBC has been allowing a lot, though...you see folks getting on the case for Adonis Stevenson as he hasn't fought his mandatory in over a year
This is one of the reasons why some people hate the WBC and say that it stands for We Be Crooks
They allow certain fighters to have a lot of breaks and it's looking like Wilder is one of them
He may face Breazeale in September and they could still have Stiverne as the #1 guy, while Wlad, Pulev, Ortiz, and Whyte who are behind Stiverne in the rankings not even get an ounce of consideration to fight Wilder.
Gotta be the Don King connect... he got dirt on the WBC or something.
Amir Imam is also the 140 WBC mando who beat 2 non-factors since his loss to Granados.... surprise, both with Don King
Miller has to get by Washington first, Parker is terrified, Ortiz in no man's land getting old waiting for AJ
So Ortiz is looking to cash out?!
By the time he fights Joshua it would be in the fall of next year and he'll 59 years old SMFH!
No one wants Wilder cuz he's always sidelined by injuries, his opponents constantly juice themselves to have a chance of winning, he brings no money or notoriety on your CV and he's a high risk fight!
ONLY guy I see willing to take it would be Joshua and that fight likely won't happen till 2019!
Wilder needs to dump Haymon, he's not promoting him correctly and is USA' s only heavyweight champ yet no one knows who he is!!
The guy knocks people out and stops them and has a fan friendly style and and at least tries to have charisma!
He has a good background story and he brings controversy when he's pissed off!
How can you not sell that to the casuals!
His team should've been took the Klitschko fight when they had the chance!
Can't see the logic behind this. If you're going to fight someone other than Stiverne, why choose Breazeale when a Whyte fight (which isn't any riskier than a Breeazeale fight) would be bring in a paycheck worth three to four times as much, and significantly more exposure to the UK market?
I hear people claiming that Wilder thinks a fight against Whyte should be worth even more, yet this flies in the face of Wilder coming out and calling Whyte a damn bum. If Whyte is a bum, what does that make everyone else Wilder has fought? Bum crumbs?
Haymon and Wilder desperately need to get their heads checked, because they're seriously selling Wilder's career well short of what it could have been.
There are contradictions and stupidity all over the show - and all roads lead to another Wilder disappointment. Surprised? No.
The "terms and conditions" offered with a big purse to fight Whyte was that the UK promoter would have rights on Wilder's next several fights. That's what Wilder was referring to.
The reason they want to 'overpay' for a Wilder-Whyte fight is so they can then pay less for a showdown with Joshua next year since the promoter would have both Joshua and Wilder.
Breazeale is #8 IWBR. Whyte is #14. How is Whyte "stepping up"?
Let's not try and claim that Breazeale is anything more than just a heavy bag shall we?
Hearn managed to fool the UK casual market into thinking he was a contender when Breazeale still had an '0' but everyone clearly saw that Joshua used him as a heavy bag for 7 rounds with Breazeale offering nothing at all.
Since then all Breazeale has done is beat a hyped up prospect (granted it was a very good fight!). So why on earth would anyone be happy with Wilder v Breazeale?
Ortiz is the mandatory to the SUPER championship.
Oquendo is the mandatory to the WORLD championship.
Ustinov was the mandatory to the INTERIM championship, but the WBA is trying to avoid crowning another interim champion.
Hopefully Oquendo & Ustinov are ordered to meet for the world title.
Doubt it. The WBA hasn't moved forward with straightening things out with the belts since the tournament was made
Not much better or worse than Whyte. Meh either way. Should just fight Stiverne already since hes the mando and then a live body
And by live body I don't mean Breazeale or Whyte.
Turns down 5mil from hearn to fight breazele.
Hearn is bringing the American champion, like to London's O2 Arena, to fight the London boy, in a fight that likely gets booked for Sky Box Office.
If all Wilder is getting off that is $5m (on a fight that Matchroom will sell out the O2 on, while also doing okay on Sky Box Office), he's entirely justified (especially if the performance is likely picked up by Sky Sports, and Wilder impressed again).
Wilder has a price in his mind, and Hearn will offer him that number once he feels like he can make money at Wilder's number.
But he could still do the same if he fights white instead? I rate whyte and breazeale on the same level. Why should he fight breazeale for 1/4 or 1/5 of what he could earn against whyte?
Also a fight against whyte has much bigger upside for him. Fight in the UK, get more exposure, maximise revenue against Joshua. Whyte is also a loudmouth and good at selling a fight.
The fight with breazeale, while rated on the same level as against whyte, does not bring wilder any further. There is less demand for this fight and breazeale is rather softspoken. The fight will probably not interest many casuals.
And I'm not sure if Parker vs wilder is a big money fight? Arum himself said unification fights are too expensive. The money for heavyweight is in the UK and every hw should try to get exposure there.
Breazeale and Whyte are of a similar level (Whyte is below Breazeale, simply for the difference in competition level), with Breazeale having near no name ID in the US.
Why would Wilder take a fight to London, fight on friendly terms for Whyte (who is not all that great an opponent) for short money.
Wilder-Breazeale seems set for PBC on Fox (likely to put $1.5m into Wilder's pocket, for a fight that would be completely on terms favorable to him).
Wilder controls his next fight, and it's not like the option to fight Whyte goes away.
The money for heavyweight boxing is in fighting Anthony Joshua; no one is getting rich fighting the Fury's, David Haye, David Price, or whatever other UK heavyweights you can think of.
Wilder(c) vs Parker(c), to unify two belts (likely at Barclays Center), would be featured on Showtime Championship Boxing, would draw interest from Sky Sports (in continuing the arc towards the big heavyweight unification fight with Anthony Joshua), and in Australia/New Zealand/Samoa (though not clear how the time would work out for a bout that likely starts 10pm EST), with both guys splitting the money 50/50.
Unifications are expensive for Arum, only in the sense that you're typically dealing with two camps, leaving less money available for Arum.
Absolutely, the whole thing reeks of Wilder being comfortable doing what he's doing and not being willing to step up.
It does because I don't see him eager to fight any of the guys that I mentioned that were ranked in the top 5 outside of Stiverne.
It takes a certain level of insanity to walk away from millions of dollars, while claiming that he deserves even more than that, for fighting a guy that he himself claims is a bum. It's all backwards and stupid.
His own promoter won't even put up that amount of money for a fight against Whyte. Funny how Wilder talks about he deserves 7 million dollars to fight Whyte when DiBella wouldn't put up 4 million for him to fight Povetkin. I can't believe that Wilder would say such things but this is what he has done ever since he got that belt.
Maybe we need to be resigned to the fact that Wilder is who he is, and expecting anything more from him is a waste of everyone's time.
Some have already seen that in him...it's crazy how he was able to get the WBC belt in the first place when it was vacant for nearly two years before someone claimed it.