If everything was equal who wins these match ups

what??? how are they mirror images of each other? Very tall, slick, and both have that one punch knockout power

If they were all an equal weight they would have developed their skills differently Exactly, how can you eve n predict this. Are we talking about them at same height and weight? Just impossible for me to think how these matchup would play out because there styles would be completely different

Spence vs Rigodeaux -Rigondeaux is alot more skilled in his defense and i think he outboxes spence to a UD Crawford vs Ward - with them being the same size i can see Crawford outworking Ward on the outside by having a little more power on his shots and being more versatile, Crawford by a close decision Loma vs Floyd - I think Floyd would be able to figure Lomachenko out within a few rounds and time him, Hit him with good body shots, straight rights etc. i also think Lomachenko doesnt have the power to really bother floyd. Floyd by UD Duran vs Hagler - Both Really tough guys but considering how duran was performing against bigger guys, i can only imagine him doing even much better if they were the same size, Duran by decision. Thurman vs Golovkin - i think Golovkin would have problems with thurman in the early stages of the fight but eventually he'd be breaking thurman down, especially if he goes to the body. Golovkin by stoppage in the 11th round Porter vs Canelo - i think Canelo would be able to time porter coming in straight and really hurt him with a few uppercuts or body shots on the inside. Having dropped porter i think he wins by TKO late Kovalev vs Hearns* - Hearns wouldn't be able to use his size advantage in this fight, but i do think he has the sharper jab and thudding power in his hands. It would be a close fight but i got Hearns by decision. Pacquiao vs Leonard* - This would be a really epic fight. We have seen how the very small pacquiao has performed against elite big guys, so imagine if he fights at his natural weight. His power would be hard for Leonard to take but the thing that will make the difference in the fight is if Leonard Chooses to box pacquiao on the outside, pacquiao won't catch him cleanly. I see Leonard winning a decision Chocalotito vs Willie Pep* - I got Willie Pep keeping Gonzalez at bay and giving him a schooling, maybe a shutout Ray Robinson vs Ali Really can't predict this one idk

It's like Wilder and Hearns. They are a mirror image of each other one is just a HW what??? how are they mirror images of each other?

Just like Basketball..if you are comparing a 6 foot fighter to a 7 foot fighter they would have trained differently It's like Wilder and Hearns. They are a mirror image of each other one is just a HW

Its hard to say really, but I actually would tend to agree with the guys that say Crawford would win in that hypothetical scenario. Applying the most logic I can, you have to back guys like Crawford and Lomachenko over fighters like Golovkin, why? They have more versatility, they can fight in different ways when the situation requires, and they can do it at the highest level. They are more versatile because they have more skills and more strings to their bow, those things should and would transfer to this different weight scenarios more than physical traits where it is more of a guessing game. The fact that both those fighters have already gone up in weight in their careers and still have been just as effective highlights this ability I'm talking about. Fighters like Golovkin, in my eyes are little different, it seems a situation where a lot of attributes come together at a single weight which allows them to be domineering at that weight. Its Golovkin's physicality, chin, durability, power, which allows him to apply his other attributes on fighters at that weight. I am not sure I can see him doing those things to a 160lb version of Lomachenko, or Crawford or if Golovkin was their weight. The reason being is those particular fighters are special in a lot of areas, but they also don't really possess any flaws. They are great defensively, they have solid chins, they can punch, they can fight coming forward, backward, they can fight taller fighters, shorter fighters, they can fight inside, outside, great skills, exceptional speed, timing, footwork, distance control, they literally have EVERYTHING. Like most great fighters who have gone through several weight divisions, but if you observe those fighters in their first 1 or 2 weight divisions, they are normally scary good, and they normally run out of challenges and have to move up. You are talking about SRR, Leonard, Duran, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Armstrong, etc. etc. Nice take. I'm going to have to make a thread about this later.

Explain???? Just like Basketball..if you are comparing a 6 foot fighter to a 7 foot fighter they would have trained differently

I don't agree with Spence - Rigo. Most of everything else I agree. Not sure about Canelo vs Porter, simply because Porter has such a ridiculous engine and a great chin. I think most people would pick SRR over Ali, but I actually like the Ali pick, he was such a fast heavyweight, if he was a welterweight he might have been faster than the Millennium Falcon. Either way the fight is an absolute blood bath. I picked Spence over Rigo because of the pressure and the body work,Canelo-Porter is the easiest pick IMO Canelo is about 10 levels above porter and just as tough

Spence vs Rigodeaux-Spence Crawford vs Ward-Ward Loma vs Floyd-Floyd Duran vs Hagler-Duran Thurman vs Golovkin-GGG Porter vs Canelo-Canelo Kovalev vs Hearns -Hearns Pacquiao vs Leonard -Leonard Chocalotito vs Willie Pep -pep Ray Robinson vs Ali-Ali yep...... I don't agree with Spence - Rigo. Most of everything else I agree. Not sure about Canelo vs Porter, simply because Porter has such a ridiculous engine and a great chin. I think most people would pick SRR over Ali, but I actually like the Ali pick, he was such a fast heavyweight, if he was a welterweight he might have been faster than the Millennium Falcon. Either way the fight is an absolute blood bath.

If they were all an equal weight they would have developed their skills differently true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If these selected fighters were naturally the same weight as the other one who would win the match up? Spence vs Rigodeaux Crawford vs Ward Loma vs Floyd Duran vs Hagler Thurman vs Golovkin Porter vs Canelo Kovalev vs Hearns Pacquiao vs Leonard Chocalotito vs Willie Pep Ray Robinson vs Ali too many to go thru now 4 me.But one that stood out to me is PEP boxing rings around a very good but slow footed CHOC.Also Hearns catches Kov with big right.Kov not used to having somone with reach like his but with more speed and better 1 punch.

Spence vs Rigodeaux-Spence Crawford vs Ward-Ward Loma vs Floyd-Floyd Duran vs Hagler-Duran Thurman vs Golovkin-GGG Porter vs Canelo-Canelo Kovalev vs Hearns -Hearns Pacquiao vs Leonard -Leonard Chocalotito vs Willie Pep -pep Ray Robinson vs Ali-Ali yep......

Interesting take. I never really looked at it that way. So, if you think about it, when people use the argument "If everything was equal fighter a would beat fighter b." They aren't looking at the totality of each fighter and how different Fighter A and Fighter B would be in each particular weight class. Let's take GGG vs Crawford for example. On this site, I have seen many people say that if Crawford was a natural 160 pounder he would beat Golovkin due to being the more skilled fighter. But they never take into consideration the fact that, most of the time, that higher weights are usually slower than lower weights. Usually you will have exceptions like Roy Jones and Ali who were just freaks of nature bbut generally a lightweight is going to quicker than a Middleweight, Light Heavyweight, or Heavyweight. Now at the same token, picture if Golovkin was a natural 140 or 147 pounder. Wouldn't that mean that he would be a lot faster and explosive since he is in a naturally smaller frame? Its hard to say really, but I actually would tend to agree with the guys that say Crawford would win in that hypothetical scenario. Applying the most logic I can, you have to back guys like Crawford and Lomachenko over fighters like Golovkin, why? They have more versatility, they can fight in different ways when the situation requires, and they can do it at the highest level. They are more versatile because they have more skills and more strings to their bow, those things should and would transfer to this different weight scenarios more than physical traits where it is more of a guessing game. The fact that both those fighters have already gone up in weight in their careers and still have been just as effective highlights this ability I'm talking about. Fighters like Golovkin, in my eyes are little different, it seems a situation where a lot of attributes come together at a single weight which allows them to be domineering at that weight. Its Golovkin's physicality, chin, durability, power, which allows him to apply his other attributes on fighters at that weight. I am not sure I can see him doing those things to a 160lb version of Lomachenko, or Crawford or if Golovkin was their weight. The reason being is those particular fighters are special in a lot of areas, but they also don't really possess any flaws. They are great defensively, they have solid chins, they can punch, they can fight coming forward, backward, they can fight taller fighters, shorter fighters, they can fight inside, outside, great skills, exceptional speed, timing, footwork, distance control, they literally have EVERYTHING. Like most great fighters who have gone through several weight divisions, but if you observe those fighters in their first 1 or 2 weight divisions, they are normally scary good, and they normally run out of challenges and have to move up. You are talking about SRR, Leonard, Duran, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Armstrong, etc. etc.

This is how I kind of look at it. If Floyd was a natural Middleweight, he would be like James Toney. If Joshua was a natural Welters, he would basically be Spence. If Madianna was a natural welter, he would be Porter It's impossible to say those things because Joshua would be a totally different fighter if he was 5'9 and 147 lbs. It's just sheer fantasy that can't be assessed because theor attributes are thrown completely out the window. It's the eqivulent of asking who wins out of Superman and Spiderman at 147 lbs.

No he wouldn't. His power might not translate at Middleweight. That's what I mean. Moving fighters to different weight classes makes them completely different fighters all together thats why its next to impossible to assess. This is how I kind of look at it. If Floyd was a natural Middleweight, he would be like James Toney. If Joshua was a natural Welters, he would basically be Spence. If Madianna was a natural welter, he would be Porter

So, if Manny was a natural Middleweight, he would be Joe Calazaghe with punching power? No he wouldn't. His power might not translate at Middleweight. That's what I mean. Moving fighters to different weight classes makes them completely different fighters all together thats why its next to impossible to assess.

No really - Joe can fight inside, but Pacquiao is better from the outside and has better feet. But rolling with this, it's nearly an impossible question, because if you take Pacquiao's footwork, he wouldn't be able to jump around with that speed in a 160-175lb frame. Would he be more stationery as a result? Would that mean he would have to rely on a more technical approach? In some of these examples you can kind of give an answer with some degree of certainty, in others, no chance. Chocalito walked through his first two weight divisions, he was just two strong, too technical and too good, who's to say he wouldn't do that in higher weight divisions if you put him into a bigger frame with all his attributes relatively adjusted to how he was in those first two weight divisions. Interesting take. I never really looked at it that way. So, if you think about it, when people use the argument "If everything was equal fighter a would beat fighter b." They aren't looking at the totality of each fighter and how different Fighter A and Fighter B would be in each particular weight class. Let's take GGG vs Crawford for example. On this site, I have seen many people say that if Crawford was a natural 160 pounder he would beat Golovkin due to being the more skilled fighter. But they never take into consideration the fact that, most of the time, that higher weights are usually slower than lower weights. Usually you will have exceptions like Roy Jones and Ali who were just freaks of nature bbut generally a lightweight is going to quicker than a Middleweight, Light Heavyweight, or Heavyweight. Now at the same token, picture if Golovkin was a natural 140 or 147 pounder. Wouldn't that mean that he would be a lot faster and explosive since he is in a naturally smaller frame?

So, if Manny was a natural Middleweight, he would be Joe Calazaghe with punching power? No really - Joe can fight inside, but Pacquiao is better from the outside and has better feet. But rolling with this, it's nearly an impossible question, because if you take Pacquiao's footwork, he wouldn't be able to jump around with that speed in a 160-175lb frame. Would he be more stationery as a result? Would that mean he would have to rely on a more technical approach? In some of these examples you can kind of give an answer with some degree of certainty, in others, no chance. Chocalito walked through his first two weight divisions, he was just two strong, too technical and too good, who's to say he wouldn't do that in higher weight divisions if you put him into a bigger frame with all his attributes relatively adjusted to how he was in those first two weight divisions.

Because Manny Pacquaio for example isn't going to be the same fighter at heavyweight because he won't have the same attributes. Wlaimir Klitschko won't be able to impmenent his gameplans as effective at welterweight for example. So, if Manny was a natural Middleweight, he would be Joe Calazaghe with punching power?

Spence vs Rigodeaux Crawford vs Ward Loma vs Floyd Duran vs Hagler Thurman vs Golovkin Porter vs Canelo Kovalev vs Hearns Pacquiao vs Leonard Chocalotito vs Willie Pep Ray Robinson vs Ali Bolded the winners.