We could all see It, so surely Pacquiao himself has to know he Is completely done.
Yeah I don't think there's any question. I think it was a combination of things as to why he looked so dejected post fight. He looked like he wanted to be anywhere else in the world than Brisbane at that time. Or like he wanted to go crawl under a rock. And I'm sure there was a million things going through his mind at that time at 200 mile per hour -- but one of which almost assuredly was finally realizing that he's just never, ever going to be that guy again. Not just that but not even remotely close to that fighter he once was.
He knew going in that he was supposed to cruise past this guy. And he didn't. It was a life & death struggle with a guy he didn't even know existed when they signed the fight. He was shell shocked.
Yeah...I gotta agree. I do think Pacquiao won, but it was close -- close but clear IMO. It was one of those life and death struggles where one fighter still won clearly, if that makes any sense. Like Floyd/Maidana 1.
But yeah, like Szef said, even had Manny got the decision...as a Pacquiao fan would I feel better about it? That he had a life and death struggle that he edged out on the cards? Over Jeff Horn? Truth is no. Hell no. Watching Pacquiao go life and death with an unknown, B fighter (all due respect to Jeff who fought his heart out...but he's still a B fighter AT BEST)...whether he got the decision or not, the final conclusion would have been the same...and that final conclusion is that Manny Pacquiao is officially done at the top level. It is what it is. Manny's a B fighter at this stage, and he's only going to degrade even further which each passing day.
Pacquiao fans like myself knew the writing was on the wall but I think we wanted to hold out a sliver a hope that he could find some magical fountain of youth, even if just for a few more fights as he closed out his career -- but that's pure fantasy. It was as clear as ever Saturday night.
Yes, good post and telling the truth as always. We could all see It, so surely Pacquiao himself has to know he Is completely done. I can't even Imagine how that would make any fighter feel knowing that they just don't have It anymore.
I honestly don't give a damn about this fight and its outcome.
Hell, I wasn't even gonna watch it and wouldn't have if it wasn't for all the crying about the 'robbery' I read on here the day after the fight.
Pac is done. Pac WAS done long before this fight.
Yeah Pac won by a little margin in my eyes. But the fight was close, could've gone either way. A fight beetwen Manny Pacquiao and some Australian most of us had never heard before could've gone either way. :lol1: Let that sink in...
Pac got 'robbed' but who cares? If he hadn't lost this fight, he would have the next one or the one after that. Maybe even by KO. Again, he's been shot for a while now. Those judges did him a favour if you ask me.
Manny Pacquiao is a has been.
Yeah...I gotta agree. I do think Pacquiao won, but it was close -- close but clear IMO. It was one of those life and death struggles where one fighter still won clearly, if that makes any sense. Like Floyd/Maidana 1.
But yeah, like Szef said, even had Manny got the decision...as a Pacquiao fan would I feel better about it? That he had a life and death struggle that he edged out on the cards? Over Jeff Horn? Truth is no. Hell no. Watching Pacquiao go life and death with an unknown, B fighter (all due respect to Jeff who fought his heart out...but he's still a B fighter AT BEST)...whether he got the decision or not, the final conclusion would have been the same...and that final conclusion is that Manny Pacquiao is officially done at the top level. It is what it is. Manny's a B fighter at this stage, and he's only going to degrade even further which each passing day.
Pacquiao fans like myself knew the writing was on the wall but I think we wanted to hold out a sliver a hope that he could find some magical fountain of youth, even if just for a few more fights as he closed out his career -- but that's pure fantasy. It was as clear as ever Saturday night.
he was too big with the wrong style for pac, pac man didn't do enough to win imo... but if they gave it to him I wouldn't have made a big deal, he was landing some good clean shots. It wasn't a Bradley 1 robbery... this loss has really brought the DOG out of you all, goodness look at the boards.
I honestly don't give a damn about this fight and its outcome.
Hell, I wasn't even gonna watch it and wouldn't have if it wasn't for all the crying about the 'robbery' I read on here the day after the fight.
Pac is done. Pac WAS done long before this fight.
Yeah Pac won by a little margin in my eyes. But the fight was close, could've gone either way. A fight beetwen Manny Pacquiao and some Australian most of us had never heard before could've gone either way. :lol1: Let that sink in...
Pac got 'robbed' but who cares? If he hadn't lost this fight, he would have the next one or the one after that. Maybe even by KO. Again, he's been shot for a while now. Those judges did him a favour if you ask me.
Manny Pacquiao is a has been. Move on.
Honestly, I am a Pacquiao fan and I hate to say this but it was close in my eyes. The cards were a joke but I did go into the 12th thinking it could have gone either way.
Nope he beat pacquaio fair and sqaure and did a better job than mayweather did.
Dunno if I'd go as far as to say he won more convincingly than mayweather, but they did fight what pretty similar looking versions of post-KO pacquaio.
For me it really drives home what an inconclusive joke may-pac was by the time it finally happened.
Horn got a gift vs Pacquiao
Bradley got a gift vs Pacquiao
Pacquiao got a gift vs Marquez 2 & 3, maybe 1
Ward got a gift vs Kovalev in fight 1
Rungvisai got a gift vs Chocolatito
Williams got a gift vs Lara
Mayweather got a gift vs Castillo 1
Morales got a gift vs Espadas 1
Cotto got a gift vs Clottey
Oscar got a gift vs Sturm
Trinidad got a gift vs Oscar
Mosley got a gift vs Oscar 2
Lewis beat Holyfield the first fight
Broner got a gift vs De Leon
Ayala got a gift vs Dianzo
Diaz got a gift vs Paulie 1
Bey got a gift vs Vasquez
Diaz got a gift vs Morales
etc etc etc... damn, why do I watch boxing?