You Say Horn Won? Show Your Scorecard

Horn missed damn near everything he threw, i watched very closely manny was slipping almost everything horn was throwing and countering it. Bogus scorecards.

Round 1- Horn 10-8 Round 2- Horn 10-8 Round 3- Horn 10-8 Round 4- Horn 10-8 Round 5- Horn 10-8 Round 6- Horn 10-8 Round 7- Horn 10-8 Round 8- Horn 10-8 Round 9- Horn 10-9 Round 10- Horn 10-8 Round 11- Horn 10-8 Round 12- Pac 10-9, later changed to 10-10 Class dismissed. Agreed, except round 9 should be: Round 9: Horn wins by stoppage after battering Pacquiao into throwing in the towel.

You are free to review my scorecard and refute any round I had wrong. Strange how I happen to coincidentally be in line with a completely subjective group I had absolutely no contact with. Maybe we have the same vision of how a fight should be judged and the average public are using their emotions to affect theirs? It's simple, you, just like them, saw what you wanted to see.

If you mute the tv im SURE you will see a different fight bc commentators bend shyte to a biased view or call things incorrectly. Atlas is off his rocker everything he said was actually the opposite of what was going on .It was also terrible style of commentating ,poor Bradly had a raving nut next to him who basically had to agree with his trainer . Yes you can post images of Horn missing but the guy won the early rnds and arguably needed just 1 more decisive one to win bc that adds up to 6 or 7 and yes HE WAS aggressive which under the RULES counts ..... Where Horn WAS using effective aggression MOST of the time. To not think this fight was close is really the biggest puzzle of all when i think of what fight ppl are watching ?:lol1: Agreed, & Atlas is usually good too but sucks at predicting fights. Jeff won that fight.

http://i.imgur.com/Qlxiuqq.png ^ Side Parry http://i.imgur.com/d8Qs8iw.png Counter right. Jeff Horn is terrible! he was allowed to make it ugly but thats not the art of boxing! if anyone scored the final round for Jeff Horn PLEASE log out - you been fooled when they told you watching a Rocky movie qualifies you to score a professional boxing contest ; wheres the technique? show me your skills! this dude just bullied Pacquiao, I didn't see nothing special. I had it 7-5 the first time. Studying the film it was wider for Pacquiao. Jeff bullied, out worked & out landed manny, he made it ugly but he still won that fight.

Horn won that fight & before the fight I thought for sure manny was going to win. Manny seemed I little less aggressive than usual. Might be time to hang'em up.

Hippo, By the way, I wouldn't brag about being in line with these corrupted judges. This was clearly a subjective group. You are free to review my scorecard and refute any round I had wrong. Strange how I happen to coincidentally be in line with a completely subjective group I had absolutely no contact with. Maybe we have the same vision of how a fight should be judged and the average public are using their emotions to affect theirs?

Ahhh, at least a little honesty. Looking forward to your round by round breakdown, especially your description of how Horn was mercilessly battering Manny's hands with his face in the 9th... Manny was clearly hitting him with elbows and headbutts throughout. But in all seriousness, I can't see how anyone could have Horn winning more than 4 rounds, and he basically only won those 4 rounds for merit of "aggression", even if it was extremely ineffective.

Horn harassed pacquiao from beginning to end, appeared as someone who wanted it more, would unload everytime pac shells up, had pac hesitant and backing off most of the time. Horn was also consistent with his energy and approached all throughout the fight while pac was way inconsistent, Horn imposed the pace that he wanted that's why he looked more commanding and in control out there, except for the parts of 8th and the whole 9th Maybe its just an illusion he made, maybe there's also substance to it but one thing is for sure manny was struggling in there, that's why judges gave it to horn. Pac got some good hits but never really able to control the tempo, to make it his fight, to control when the exchanges happen and when they don't. Well, pac is just old so i wont even gonna criticize him with his performance.

I heard Harold Lederman say it so it must be true :dance: lol, yeah.

I see your logic and obviously its not wrong, I just think you can't score a fight based off pervious fights. The fact is round 9 was a clear round where horn was in more trouble than he was in for the entire fight... so much so the ref warned him he would stop it. if the other rounds where 10-9 why wouldn't this one be considered a 10-8 as it was so much different from what we saw in the whole fight? just another angle scoring is subjective and thats the beauty and the fallacy of the sport. 6 eyes can see different things or can be bought.... 10-8 rounds should only be given to a knockdown. Provodnikov hurt bradley even more so than pac did horn and he still got a 10-9 round

We actually have members here that believe that "being the aggressor" wins the round almost all the time. I heard Harold Lederman say it so it must be true :dance:

Hippo, By the way, I wouldn't brag about being in line with these corrupted judges. This was clearly a subjective group.

That's where you wrong. Horn dictated the pace of the whole fight. Pacquiao did not control a single round of the fight except the 9th. And let me remind you that fights are judged round per round, not holistically. Unless we're speaking specific rounds, your opinion is obsolete and again the musing of a casual emotional invested fan. My judging was completely consistent with the judge's cards. Only difference is that I wasn't paid. Do you think that is a pure coincidence or a testament to my judging ability? Have you ever compared your score cards with judge, and if so, did you come to similar conclusions or your's was completely out of wack? Here is my score card, please feel free to go at it and which rounds you think I got wrong, I would be more than happy to debate with you as long as you promise you won't get your emotions get in the way: I was simply explaining the standard by which fights are supposed to be score by judges, and my take on why Pac won this fight in lopsided fashion based on that standard. For the record, I gave Horn rounds 1, 6, and 10. I'll also add this, in any fight that wasn't fixed otherwise, Pacquiao receives a score of no less than 116 on every judges scorecard here based on how this fight played out. And, the only way in which Horn dictated the action was his rough and dirty tactics, which are a violation of rules and should not be rewarded by judges. Even with that, Horn just kept walking into punches with his aggression, often looking sloppy in the process. And it nearly cost him the fight in round 9.

I see your logic and obviously its not wrong, I just think you can't score a fight based off pervious fights. The fact is round 9 was a clear round where horn was in more trouble than he was in for the entire fight... so much so the ref warned him he would stop it. if the other rounds where 10-9 why wouldn't this one be considered a 10-8 as it was so much different from what we saw in the whole fight? just another angle scoring is subjective and thats the beauty and the fallacy of the sport. 6 eyes can see different things or can be bought.... When it comes to giving 10-8 rounds, it does. Previous rounds are irrelevant in my opinion. The round would have to be stopped within an inch of Horn's death for me to give make this a 10-8 round. 10-8 rounds without knockdowns don't come around to often, this was a great round for Pacquiao, but nothing I haven't seen before in other 10-9 rounds.

Horn started the round strong and Pacquiao didn't even score a knockdown. I've seen better rounds from other boxers that were scored a 10-9. And I don't know what previous rounds have to do with any of this. P.S. you shouldn't base your judging opinion on Teddy Atlas. It's clear the man is off his rocker. I see your logic and obviously its not wrong, I just think you can't score a fight based off pervious fights. The fact is round 9 was a clear round where horn was in more trouble than he was in for the entire fight... so much so the ref warned him he would stop it. if the other rounds where 10-9 why wouldn't this one be considered a 10-8 as it was so much different from what we saw in the whole fight? just another angle scoring is subjective and thats the beauty and the fallacy of the sport. 6 eyes can see different things or can be bought....

Sorry how can you have round 9 scored as a 10-9 round? It was such a clear departure from the preceding rounds that it properly should be scored 10-8 for Pacquiao. Horn started the round strong and Pacquiao didn't even score a knockdown. I've seen better rounds from other boxers that were scored a 10-9. And I don't know what previous rounds have to do with any of this. P.S. you shouldn't base your judging opinion on Teddy Atlas. It's clear the man is off his rocker.

We actually have members here that believe that "being the aggressor" wins the round almost all the time. there are HBO analyst who believe the same... this fight imo comes down to Pac just not looking like pac and I think the judge scored that. right or wrong they scored it...

Sorry how can you have round 9 scored as a 10-9 round? It was such a clear departure from the preceding rounds that it properly should be scored 10-8 for Pacquiao. Horn started the round strong and Pacquiao didn't even score a knockdown. I've seen better rounds from other boxers that were scored a 10-9. And I don't know what previous rounds have to do with any of this. P.S. you shouldn't base your judging opinion on Teddy Atlas. It's clear the man if off his rocker.

Another blind man ape don't talk about sports that you have a hard time understanding. Floyd was never a aggressor in any of his fights ring generalship is the crap you use when you don't have a tie breaker for a round, and manny clearly punished horn all fight so kys :) you must be ****ing retard because I did't mention floyd in my comments secondly floyd beat mannys ass if you know anything about boxing which you clearly don't.. the only blind ape around here is the one that must of fcuked your moms... he should have fcuked her in her ass so a clear retard like you wouldn't have been born.. I'M NOT THE ONE FOR YOUR RACIST ****!!!