Are we underrating the fact that Joshua beat Wladimir in his 19th fight?

This is a different topic in itself. But fury's win is better that Josh's. But that isn't taking g infto considerations its Josh's 19 th fight. It just gets complicated when you got too many things to juggle and things too consider

Yes, some people are.

It is a good win of course but that was a Wlad in his 40's, inactive for 18 month and had already lost his last fight and still had Joshua down and nearly out That's not to take anything a way from Joshua, he showed a lot of heart in that fight and winning mentality but he struggled badly with a faded fighter in his 40's. There's no way that Klitschko was better than before, no matter what people want to convince themselves and others. He looked good because Joshua's style is quite suited to him in some ways but you could still see he was old.

I didn't think he could do it Both gave a great fight

That was a really good accomplishment for Joshua. The problem is he beat Klitschko. If he beat Wilder he would be celebrated more but then they would say he need to beat someone like Klitschko. Why do you think a fight with irrelevant Fury is getting so much traction? Klitschko was not old... Bernard Hopkins was old. That was the best Klitschko I've ever seen.

Fake-J is a fraud who will get exposed against Fury. A fraud who knocked out the best heavyweight there has been for around 15 years. And before you say vlad was old, that was Vlad's best performance for a number of years, he looked fresh, light on his feet and he was letting his hands go more than he had done for a long time. AJ deserves all the credit he is getting and i cant see anyone beating him anytime soon, including Fury, who is so out of shape at the moment its hard to even picture him back in the ring at elite level.

Hes only 27 with 19 fights yet he stopped a guy who hasn't been stopped in a decade.. And people think a Ward at 175 fighter can beat him lmao.

Fake-J is a fraud who will get exposed against Fury.

Aj is the best heavyweight in the world today. Any heavyweight who wants to be considered the best heavyweight in the world has to beat AJ to prove it. Fury could make that claim once but he can't anymore He had a breakdown and nobody knows how good he is now. Even before AJ KOed Wlad he had a better record than Wilder or Ortiz. AJ has 100% KO wins topped off with is KO of a well trained and motivated Wlad.

Great win, no doubt

he beat an OLD fighter in wlad and come razor thin close to losing and does anyone really believe he would have beaten a young prime wlad ? Thats kinda the point, AJ is just as green as Wlad is past it. He fought 40 odd pro rounds prior to the Wlad fight. People act like he's in his prime but he's 3-4 year and 10-12 high level fights from reaching his peak. So while todays AJ doesn't beat a prime Wlad you could also ask whether anyone thinks AJ with 10 more fights and 3 more pro years has any problem with that Wlad ?

It's an excellent victory, but Vlad was old and the HW division has sucked for ages. I hope Joshua's win ushers in a new era of more exciting fights. Joshua could shape up to be a great heavyweight.

Yup it just gets ignored to suit agendas It is what it is, you know that the AA clan AND the white supremecists both will never give him any props, its just the normal people who will oh well Isn't he converting to Islam now? There goes the normal people. Damn he's surrounded!

he beat an OLD fighter in wlad and come razor thin close to losing and does anyone really believe he would have beaten a young prime wlad ?

I would say AJ receives a lot of praise here

Prior to the Wlad fight I favored Pulev, Ortiz, and Wilder to beat Joshua, now I expect him to easily defeat Ortiz and Pulev, and I'm favoring Joshua over Wilder