IMO, the full 154 pound version of Cotto that Mayweather actually fought had the best chance of beating him. The size helped Cotto more than any other weight would have. Cotto was coming off 3 dominating wins at 154 and at no other point in his career would he have fared as well against Mayweather.
At 140, Cotto wouldn't have finished a fight with Mayweather, TKO inside of 10. Even when Cotto moved to 147 it seemed he was too big and had trouble making the limit of 147 (much less 144 which almost killed him).
The 'right time' is subjective.
If you're Cotto (even though no version of Cotto beats any version of Mayweather) you didn't want that smoke until you felt 'ready'.
I get that.
But if you're Mayweather, moving up in weight, have a history of hand problems and are pursuing even bigger fish and paydays at even higher weights (ODLH, SSM, etc.), then 2005, when both of them held belts at the weight is the perfect time.
And Top Rank didn't want it at that time. Period.
Well, we can definitely agree to disagree on this one.
No one beats Floyd in 2006. No one
Speaking of Cotto, what happened to his strength and conditioning coach? I remember it was some English guy. Haven't heard anything from him since.
Alex Ariza as well, does he still train boxers? He was a staple of Elie Sechback videos but has gone missing for a few years
Ariza was just with Felix Diaz. He also trains Dulorme.
I say 2006 as cotto fought Torres n got knocked down few times and as another poster said he was slightly green. Anywhere from 06-07 it should of happened
Nah, not the right time for that fight.
Ending of 2007 after Cotto beat Mosley and after Mayweather beat Hatton. Leading into 2008 that was the perfect set up for that fight. It would have been a big PPV fight in May of 2008 or sometime in 2008.
The 'right time' is subjective.
If you're Cotto (even though no version of Cotto beats any version of Mayweather) you didn't want that smoke until you felt 'ready'.
I get that.
But if you're Mayweather, moving up in weight, have a history of hand problems and are pursuing even bigger fish and paydays at even higher weights (ODLH, SSM, etc.), then 2005, when both of them held belts at the weight is the perfect time.
And Top Rank didn't want it at that time. Period.
Is Errol Spence 'too green' to fight Keith Thurman right now?
Was Devon Alexander 'too green' when he fought Timothy Bradley to unify at Jr WW?
Because they had the same number of pro fights (22) at the time as Miguel Cotto had when won his WBO Jr WW title.
Cotto would have approximately 24-25 pro bouts under his belt at the time of a Mayweather fight. You know who Mayweather's 25th pro fight was? Diego Corrales.
Cotto had a belt at the weight and would have been fighting a guy moving up. It was a HUGE fight at the time. And Cotto and Top Rank didn't want it.
It is what it is.
Nah, not the right time for that fight.
Ending of 2007 after Cotto beat Mosley and after Mayweather beat Hatton. Leading into 2008 that was the perfect set up for that fight. It would have been a big PPV fight in May of 2008 or sometime in 2008.
I would of much preferred to of seen the fight around that sort of time rather than in 2012.
I think Mayweather wins against any version of Cotto though.
Cotto was too green in 2005
2008 would have been the perfect time for that fight imo.
Is Errol Spence 'too green' to fight Keith Thurman right now?
Was Devon Alexander 'too green' when he fought Timothy Bradley to unify at Jr WW?
Because they had the same number of pro fights (22) at the time as Miguel Cotto had when won his WBO Jr WW title.
Cotto would have approximately 24-25 pro bouts under his belt at the time of a Mayweather fight. You know who Mayweather's 25th pro fight was? Diego Corrales.
Cotto had a belt at the weight and would have been fighting a guy moving up. It was a HUGE fight at the time. And Cotto and Top Rank didn't want it.
It is what it is.
Speaking of Cotto, what happened to his strength and conditioning coach? I remember it was some English guy. Haven't heard anything from him since.
Alex Ariza as well, does he still train boxers? He was a staple of Elie Sechback videos but has gone missing for a few years
I saw ariza in someone's corner this month forgot who
You're right. 2005 would have been much better, when both held belts at 140.
But Top Rank and Cotto didn't want NO SMOKE with Mayweather at that time. So he moved on to bigger and better.
It is what it is.
Cotto was too green in 2005
2008 would have been the perfect time for that fight imo.
2006 is an odd year to want that fight.
2008 would have been perfect.
Both Cotto and Mayweather were in their prime.
You're right. 2005 would have been much better, when both held belts at 140.
But Top Rank and Cotto didn't want NO SMOKE with Mayweather at that time. So he moved on to bigger and better.
It is what it is.
That surely can't be true u sure floyd moving to hbo weren't the REAL reason
It's all conjecture on my part. But I remember Cotto being ringside for Gatti and the announcers were saying he needed a little more seasoning before getting in with Mayweather.
Speaking of Cotto, what happened to his strength and conditioning coach? I remember it was some English guy. Haven't heard anything from him since.
Alex Ariza as well, does he still train boxers? He was a staple of Elie Sechback videos but has gone missing for a few years
He was South African, Phil Landman.
Cotto has Gavin McMillan now from the Sports Science Lab
Ariza is training Thomas Dulorme that I know of.
I've seen him on some videos from a little earlier this year.
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