More and more boxers post pictures training with weights

I read about Joshua a lot on here and yes I definitely agree with them regarding his weightlifting. Apart from him I don't read a lot about any other boxers who needs to leave the weights alone. Of course boxers need the weights as part of there training.

Weight training can help prevent injuries when done right. But certain things like bench press can mess up your shoulders big time. I'm talking from experience. As far as shoulder safety, pushups are superior. But in general, nothing wrong with weights.

does no one on this site know anything about the kinetic chain from foot to hand, and why elimination of weaknesses in it has many benefits? plus the low weights in some of these pics is less resistance in terms of weight than calisthenics.

It isn't "needed", when people talk about weight training being bad for boxers they are talking about the fighters that are bulky and have unnecessary muscle like Joshua. See how he was blowing out of his arse after a flurry? He'd be a much better fighter if he was 20lbs lighter. So you use the boxer with more muscles in the whole sport as an example? great. No, they don't just mean that. Many people here just said "weights are bad".

You should be ashamed of BSing very often. Like saying only 1% predicted a close fight between GGG and Jacobs. You of all people talking about bs'ing? YOU?! :rofl: The guy who makes a fail thread every 2 hours. Like your all time classic about Floyd's shoulder vascularity? You shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house, bud.

Many here told me about "weights being bad" for boxers. "Big muscles require more oxigen", "More muscle doesn't equal more power", "Lifting weights make you heavier and stiff", "boxing is all about running, push ups, pull ups and situps", "only heavyweights do weight lifting, they need the extra muscle". That's just plain bs. Not everyone needs the weights, but not everyone is so genetically gifted to the point that it's not needed to do weight training Kell Brook, Danny Garcia, Amir Khan, Sergio Martinez, and many many others, do/did weight lifting. http://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/kell-brook%20(6)_1.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ofU4vewpnl8/maxresdefault.jpg http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/EbayBuyer101/get-attachment_zps886fb510.jpeg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/25/article-2705995-1EB04BA700000578-193_964x561.jpg I think certain muscles help while other can hinder you. But I'm no kynesiologist so what do I know.

I think certain muscles help while other can hinder you. But I'm no kynesiologist so what do I know.

You said push ups and sit ups, which are resistance exercise just like weight lifting. :dunce: Logic is not your thing, I know. In fact pull ups can be harder than the typical back exercise on a machine. I was just listing the kind of responses I got many times. In which some say that pullups and pushups are enough and weight lifting is not needed.

I predict a lot of bro-science coming in this thread. Lifting can be a very powerful tool for any boxer if done properly.

What do you mean by speed-strength/strength-speed?

I just read the op and I am totally ashamed that I actually posted in this thread. You should be ashamed of BSing very often. Like saying only 1% predicted a close fight between GGG and Jacobs.

I just read the op and I am totally ashamed that I actually posted in this thread.

Lol, you've got a pic of Danny G pushing up an EMPTY bar and you're preaching about weight lifting?? Light weights are a form of conditioning, same as bodyweight exercises. What people warn about is bodybuilding type lifting. Your muscles are not going to be efficient in boxing if they are undergoing the heavy recovery that bodybuilding and powerlifting involve. When did I say heavy weight lifting, you little know it all? read twice.

Lol, you've got a pic of Danny G pushing up an EMPTY bar and you're preaching about weight lifting?? Light weights are a form of conditioning, same as bodyweight exercises. What people warn about is bodybuilding type lifting. Your muscles are not going to be efficient in boxing if they are undergoing the heavy recovery that bodybuilding and powerlifting involve.

Also, Tyson Fury's Deadlift form looks like ***** and I think the two guys in the picture behind him agree! His strength coach should be embarrassed by that photo!

Weightlifting is simply a tool. Misused, it could be a detriment. Like if you're lifting like a bodybuilder. The perception is that weightlifting makes you big or that getting stronger means that your muscles will increase in size. Intelligent strength and conditioning programs can incorporate the use of weight training in such a way as to increase strength & power (strength-speed or speed-strength) without the negative effects of training like a bodybuilder (e.g. back & bicep day, chest day etc.) which I am NO fan of. Full disclosure... I am a strength and conditioning coach and work with athletes in several sports.

A lot of fighters do weight lifting. Not the super heavy weight sh*t but light weights as you can see in those pictures... This is nothing new.

Most fighters only weight train during camps for a fight. Guys like Berto, Joshua and the like go to the gym several times a week just to lift weights.

doing some weightlifting can certainly benefit a fighter, but a lot of fighters overdo it. especially novice fighters and guys still in the amateur ranks (but you see it with pros too). so it isnt a case of weights being bad, period. but as a boxer weightlifintg should be a very small part of your training regimen. it really should just be complementary, yet lots of guys, again generally amateurs, treat weight lifting as one of the most or even the single most important aspect of training. which is sheer insanity. Edit: bigger muscles needing more oxcygen and more muscles not meaning more punching power isnt bs, it is 100% true. bigger muscles do need more oxcygen, i didnt think anyone could possible doubt that very well known fact. punching power comes from technique and the size of your frame, not the size of your muscles. too much lifting also makes you stiff and heavy, this too is rather obvious. but what is too much depends on the individual. its rather ironic you choose a picture of tyson fury to make your case when he has been very vocal in calling joshua a weightlifter and bodybuilder in a deragatory sense. saying he lifts too much and it makes him slow and stiff, claiming that he would be easy work as a result.

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