i wouldnt read too much into this, their are different types of punches
Those fast sharp ones you dont see that whip in and hurt you (generally from leaner guys with long limbs) then those smashing heavy ones from a stocky guy
its universally agreed that rotation is key but you swing to your strengths i suppose
Rotation generates power regardless of size.
Look at any racket sport, tennis, golf etc... They all teach you not to smash the shot but to rotate fully. The ball always goes further.
Same applies with punching... If you've been taught even the basics by a decent coach they'll tell you to twist the ball of your foot on you back leg when throwing a cross/straight.
Same if you're throwing a lead hook... You twist the ball of your lead foot, through your leg, hip shoulder and ultimately your arm.
improving your technique and strength helps but it won't turn you into a knock out artist if you aren't naturally a puncher, but tell me more "Einstein".
"naturally" a puncher. Okay dude, you are clueless, there's no such thing as a natural puncher. You become one, but there's a window of opportunity that if you miss it you will be stuck with bad technique and bad habits that lead to poor punch execution and poor use of strength when it comes to punching mechanics. "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" is the same for punching power.
Because it's technique AND muscle development.
Have you ever boxed in your life or are you just some couch potato who likes watching boxing and made an account on a boxing forum?
I think it's the latter, which is nothing wrong with that, until you start talking about stuff you have no hands on experience with. When I started sparring at 12 I didn't know how to punch hard, I had to actually learn how to, which required me to get better in technique and strength. A couch trainer won't have a clue about any of this.improving your technique and strength helps but it won't turn you into a knock out artist if you aren't naturally a puncher, but tell me more "Einstein".
lol ok einstein so explain why a muscular boxer like tim bradley can't punch to save his life.
Because it's technique AND muscle development.
Have you ever boxed in your life or are you just some couch potato who likes watching boxing and made an account on a boxing forum?
I think it's the latter, which is nothing wrong with that, until you start talking about stuff you have no hands on experience with. When I started sparring at 12 I didn't know how to punch hard, I had to actually learn how to, which required me to get better in technique and strength. A couch trainer won't have a clue about any of this.
You are not born with power lol, this isn't dragon ball z where you're born a low level saiyin or high class saiyin and sh*t lmfao, get the f#ck out of here with that born sh*t. Talking about I can't teach power, no one is talking about teaching power, obviously there are no experts here. Including you with your born bullsh#t.
Technique and muscle development is most likely where it comes from. Saying punchers are born with power is the equivalent of a person saying "god" created the universe and all of us lol. It's so lazy and unscientific.lol ok einstein so explain why a muscular boxer like tim bradley can't punch to save his life.
you obviously can't teach power. you are born with it either you have it or you don't.
You are not born with power lol, this isn't dragon ball z where you're born a low level saiyin or high class saiyin and sh*t lmfao, get the f#ck out of here with that born sh*t. Talking about I can't teach power, no one is talking about teaching power, obviously there are no experts here. Including you with your born bullsh#t.
Technique and muscle development is most likely where it comes from. Saying punchers are born with power is the equivalent of a person saying "god" created the universe and all of us lol. It's so lazy and unscientific.
I'm no power generating expert but there doesn't seem to be any correlation between leg size and punching power.
In fact I have no clue wtf makes a good puncher. My first thought is form/pivoting but i've seen sloppy dudes who don't punch with really good form get crazy ko's.
It wouldn't surprise me if there is something in common with power punchers, physically, like a certain muscle group they have developed or something. Or maybe it's a certain amount of energy you have to use and not all boxers are able to generate such energy.you obviously can't teach power. you are born with it either you have it or you don't.
ya the long lean dudes can whip a punch better. think of the 1 punch KO's where dudes go stiff.
Julian Jackson
Tommy Hearns
Deontay WIlder
etc
it's like a shock. but they don't have as much body punch KO's. hardly any.
then you got guys like GGG and Joe Louis.... who are more clubbing punchers.
they don't have as devastating 1 punch KO's. but they have more body punch KO's.
this long wiry dude has a beautiful KO. he threw that punch like a pitch. would u say he's a harder puncher than GGG tho?
http://i.imgur.com/kQNOKHE.gif
I'm no power generating expert but there doesn't seem to be any correlation between leg size and punching power.
In fact I have no clue wtf makes a good puncher. My first thought is form/pivoting but i've seen sloppy dudes who don't punch with really good form get crazy ko's.
It wouldn't surprise me if there is something in common with power punchers, physically, like a certain muscle group they have developed or something. Or maybe it's a certain amount of energy you have to use and not all boxers are able to generate such energy.
This. Hearns, diego coralles, roger mayweather had chicken legs. Tyson, hamed, pac ect. had yuge calfs. doesnt seem to be any real correlation
Let's face it, Paulie Maliggnagi can have the perfect leverage and timing but he still had a lot trouble KO'ing dudes.
Do u have chicken legs? I eat chicken legs for breakfast cuz I cant afford a real breakfast
I'm a really tall guy with chicken legs and I think the power comes from leverage. People who have trained with me say I was stronger than they were expecting and the only thing I can come up with is that I've learned to use my whole body. I actually learned it by watching Tommy Hearns. Look at the way he put a little "extra" into every punch, twisting and using the rotation of his broad shoulders. Using the full body (including the legs) you can generate more force. The speed and accuracy has to be there though as you can't muscle your way through punches like some smaller guys can.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Lever_Principle_3D.png
Look at this chicken leg, chicken head mudafvcka tryna compare himself to Hearns
It's not the Chicken legs it's having them long arms that have lots of leverage coming from a long distance.A prime example of that is Tommy's right hand that dropped Duran. Couple of pitty patty jabs to the stomach as a setup, and then that rocket right seemed to come from the center of the ring. BOOM!
It's not the Chicken legs it's having them long arms that have lots of leverage coming from a long distance. Just like guys with short arms have better leverage when throwing hooks and upper cuts like Tyson and Marciano who had short arms but tree trunk legs. It's like getting hit with a 2 by 4 thats coming ten feet away rather than 5
Depends. There are many athletes that are heavier upper torso than their calves. Some athletes have bigger thighs than their calves or vise versa. Jacobs, Marquez, Michael Jordan... all properly upper muscular. I use to do a type of Spartan Kettlebell workout where I would pump my calves up and down on the edge of stairs. My calves were freaking huge compared to my thighs. I stopped doing it because of random cramps sometimes days later. Anyhow, PAC throughout his career was always hoping on calves in style. Makes sense why his calves are ripped and knows how to control his weight effortlessly. But his upper torso seems a bit midgety
I was watching a video today about how cramps are caused by one muscle group trying to do the work that a weaker muscle group should be doing. Maybe that's what was happening in your case.
I remember reading a book on it once and there was evidence to suggest thomas hearns and bob foster created a certain power from there lean frames.....something to do with leverage and sinewy muscles if i remember correctly.