I hear rumours that Wilder will be fighting Stiverne again next, is this true?

Stiverne was given the #5 ranking after losing the world championship. Considering he lost the title by decision, it wouldn't have been fair to drop him lower than that. #1 Alexander Povetkin & #2 Mike Perez were ordered to fight for the silver championship in a final eliminator to determine Wilder's mandatory. Povetkin won and would have fought for the world title had he not been caught cheating. #3 Tyson Fury chose to pursue a WBO title shot while #4 Glazkov chose to pursue an IBF title shot, removing them from the WBC rankings. Stiverne did not climb the rankings by beating Rossy, beating Rossy simply kept him active so he wouldn't be removed from the rankings. He climbed the rankings from those in front of him losing or fighting for other titles. Stiverne signed to fight Povetkin in a final eliminator to try to earn a shot at the title he'd recently lost. It's not his fault Povetkin was caught cheating again. From Stiverne's perspective, why should he have to keep waiting for a rematch when there hasn't been a mandatory defense in over two years and he was ready, willing and able to face Povetkin until Povetkin was caught cheating again? Look, I don't want to see Wilder-Stiverne again. Nobody wants to see it again. But nobody wants to see Golden State play the Nets on a Tuesday night instead of seeing them against a top team. But sometimes in a sport, you compete against who you're scheduled to compete against and boxing would be a lot better off if fans weren't so quick to forgive fighters for ducking mandatories. And if we didn't have four titles, the quality of the mandatories would greatly increase. Everyone complains about having four titles, but they often don't think about the fact that it also means four mandatories, watering down the quality of the mandatories. Nice read. I do understand that but at times the sanctioning bodies do leave the #1 mando vacant until they sort the mess up. Sometimes in order for them to collect sanction fees they will rate the fighters.

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I think he should get it out of the way same with AJ who has to take care of Pulev and Ortiz as his IBF and WBA Mandatory's while Wilder takes care of Stiverne and he should unify with Parker if possible before their Mega Showdown Why are people acting as if they're running out of time and Wilder vs Joshua most happen this year or else? Honestly when they meet I don't want no other Champion just on the outside look in. It should be the showdown for it ALL for pure Supremacy at Heavyweight

it wouldnt shock me at all. theres always excuses on here too when he fights a bum. Mandatory doe..right??

Stiverne was given the #5 ranking after losing the world championship. Considering he lost the title by decision, it wouldn't have been fair to drop him lower than that. #1 Alexander Povetkin & #2 Mike Perez were ordered to fight for the silver championship in a final eliminator to determine Wilder's mandatory. Povetkin won and would have fought for the world title had he not been caught cheating. #3 Tyson Fury chose to pursue a WBO title shot while #4 Glazkov chose to pursue an IBF title shot, removing them from the WBC rankings. Stiverne did not climb the rankings by beating Rossy, beating Rossy simply kept him active so he wouldn't be removed from the rankings. He climbed the rankings from those in front of him losing or fighting for other titles. Stiverne signed to fight Povetkin in a final eliminator to try to earn a shot at the title he'd recently lost. It's not his fault Povetkin was caught cheating again. From Stiverne's perspective, why should he have to keep waiting for a rematch when there hasn't been a mandatory defense in over two years and he was ready, willing and able to face Povetkin until Povetkin was caught cheating again? Look, I don't want to see Wilder-Stiverne again. Nobody wants to see it again. But nobody wants to see Golden State play the Nets on a Tuesday night instead of seeing them against a top team. But sometimes in a sport, you compete against who you're scheduled to compete against and boxing would be a lot better off if fans weren't so quick to forgive fighters for ducking mandatories. And if we didn't have four titles, the quality of the mandatories would greatly increase. Everyone complains about having four titles, but they often don't think about the fact that it also means four mandatories, watering down the quality of the mandatories. This is a pretty good description of what happened. I can't argue with anything. This is kind of the same scenario how the WBO made Hughie Fury their mandatory. Similar circumstances with the guys rated ahead of him. He was the #5 before Haye fought Bellew, Klitschko fought Joshua & the #1 & 2 fought for the vacant WBO belt when Tyson Fury vacated. The #1 spot just fell to Hughie...

did GGG already beat wade before the first time? idiot. Since you're too stupid to put 2 and 2 together: It was a reflection that people considered the fight against Wade a waste of time, just as this fight is since Wilder already spanked Stiverne. Both are a waste of time, despite being mandatories. The point is the same posters crucifying GGG are trying to defend this mandatory, and walk around as if they are neutral & non-biased. Let me know if you're too stupid to understand anything else, I'll be happy to explain simple things to you.

Blame the damn WBC he is mandatory

So you have some of the same posters vilifying Golovkin for having to take his mandatory against Dominick Wade, and yet, when it comes to Wilder they defend him :lol1:

That's seriously some biased nonsense. Wilder is begging Parker to fight him this summer and he's not getting any response. He flew out to the AJ fight and AJ mentioned everybody but he and Ortiz. He didn't think that it might be a good idea to mention the other HW title holder who happened to be right there?? I don't care if people think Wilder is untalented. I think he's an uncoordinated mess. But, this nonsense where people blame him for everything is just stupid. He might not be the most talented HW but the guy is actually trying to get decent fights now and isn't getting any response. It's time to be honest. And, I'll add that EVERYONE in the division is ducking Ortiz. Including Wilder.I don't like Wilder but I got to agree with you. Nobody is lining up to fight Wilder anymore. I always thought Wilder would get exposed but the only thing I have seen is guys fail drug tests before they get in the ring with him or get laid out. The top guys are not mentioning him in unification. I do understand some challengers preferring to fight Joshua if they are going to get knock out because of the pay day. If Wilder can't get Joshua or Parker than he might as well get the biggest payday he can while waiting. If I was him I would get Stiverne out of the way & then fight Bellew. He has asked for unification & got no response. If he can get Klitschko in the ring than he should do that. If he can't get any of them Bellew in the UK sounds like the next best financial option...

Quite likely, considering he has mandatories to fight too. Likelihood is Wilder is going to have to wait until after AJ has fought potentially a Klitschko rematch, definitely Pulev, maybe Ortiz and maybe Fury. All of that is perfectly reasonable considering that: Klitschko has a rematch clause Pulev is mandated by the IBF and all the noises are that if not Klitschko he has to be next else he's stripped. Ortiz has already been making noises about taking the WBA to court if needs be to ensure he gets his shot, even if the WBA have stated they're likely to give AJ a voluntary. Potentially Haymon could get him to step aside for Wilder but it's unlikely he'll go for it. Joshua v Fury is a much, much bigger fight than Joshua v Wilder and does huge numbers in the UK. Of course this depends on Fury having a boxing license and not being 300 pounds. On top of all that, it also looks like Parker wants nothing to do with Wilder and just wants to cash out against AJ so that's another potential fight to get in the way. Likelihood is whoever gets Bellew will get Joshua first out of Wilder and Parker. I'd reckon Wilder v Joshua would happen sooner if it was for all the belts, but Parkers team don't appear to want to risk losing out on a major payday against Joshua to go for that. Only way that's going to change is if Haymon throws a lot of money towards Parker safe in the knowledge that he'll make even more against Joshua if it's for the undisputed heavyweight title. But that'll only happen if Haymon has complete faith that Wilder will blow Parker away. Everything you say is true but that's not how it will play on NSB. All the Wilder haters will spin it and make it seem like he's the one who is standing in the way of the AJ fight.

Why is it that no one ever acknowledges this? Is it because it goes against their moronic talking points? Wilder wants Parker next, point blank period. We know why :lol1:

This ducking madness is part of the NSB culture. I didn't create it. On NSB it is understood that if you're the A side it is on you to make the fights the public want to see. They're are not many fights for AJ that are bigger than Wilder. A Wlad rematch and Tyson Fury is all. And is AJ going to wait 9 months for Fury to drop the weight? Quite likely, considering he has mandatories to fight too. Likelihood is Wilder is going to have to wait until after AJ has fought potentially a Klitschko rematch, definitely Pulev, maybe Ortiz and maybe Fury. All of that is perfectly reasonable considering that: Klitschko has a rematch clause Pulev is mandated by the IBF and all the noises are that if not Klitschko he has to be next else he's stripped. Ortiz has already been making noises about taking the WBA to court if needs be to ensure he gets his shot, even if the WBA have stated they're likely to give AJ a voluntary. Potentially Haymon could get him to step aside for Wilder but it's unlikely he'll go for it. Joshua v Fury is a much, much bigger fight than Joshua v Wilder and does huge numbers in the UK. Of course this depends on Fury having a boxing license and not being 300 pounds. On top of all that, it also looks like Parker wants nothing to do with Wilder and just wants to cash out against AJ so that's another potential fight to get in the way. Likelihood is whoever gets Bellew will get Joshua first out of Wilder and Parker. I'd reckon Wilder v Joshua would happen sooner if it was for all the belts, but Parkers team don't appear to want to risk losing out on a major payday against Joshua to go for that. Only way that's going to change is if Haymon throws a lot of money towards Parker safe in the knowledge that he'll make even more against Joshua if it's for the undisputed heavyweight title. But that'll only happen if Haymon has complete faith that Wilder will blow Parker away.

Wilder wants to unify with Parker who wants no part of wilder right now. Ortiz is a ped user and wilder said he's not wasting his time with dirty fighters any more but morons on this sight put wilder down for setting standards and call him all sorts of names am I missing something here?

Parker and AJ won't go near him so what's the man to do? Why is it that no one ever acknowledges this? Is it because it goes against their moronic talking points? Wilder wants Parker next, point blank period.

Stiverne is the WBC #1 contender and Wilder is mandated to fight him...unless he can get a unification fight instead. Anthony Joshua has mandatory commitments of his own right now so he's off the table. But why aren't you blaming Joseph Parker for not stepping up and unifying with Deontay? He just fought and is free to face whoever he wants at the moment.

Parker doesn't seem to want that work. He'd rather have sparring sessions with bums in NZ and milk the belt. Sad but it is what it is. Stiverne 2 it is..

When a fighter has fought Wlad, they have started to fight the best of the division which is what I said and Wlad clearly showed he is still an elite heavyweight who would be favored over most top heavyweights. Wilder calling out AJ doesnt mean AJ is avoiding Wilder. Boxing history and this site is littered with people claiming ducking only to have to eat their words later. It has been laughable how epidemic the ducking statements have come along only to be shot down by the countless matchups. This ducking madness is part of the NSB culture. I didn't create it. On NSB it is understood that if you're the A side it is on you to make the fights the public want to see. They're are not many fights for AJ that are bigger than Wilder. A Wlad rematch and Tyson Fury is all. And is AJ going to wait 9 months for Fury to drop the weight?

When a fighter has fought Wlad, they have started to fight the best of the division which is what I said and Wlad clearly showed he is still an elite heavyweight who would be favored over most top heavyweights. Wilder calling out AJ doesnt mean AJ is avoiding Wilder. Boxing history and this site is littered with people claiming ducking only to have to eat their words later. It has been laughable how epidemic the ducking statements have come along only to be shot down by the countless matchups. As they say in Hollywood "once a star always a threat." However the 17 month layoff plus being 41 years of age takes his toll. AJ should have lost that fight 2 to 3 times. Even early in the fight when AJ was winning Wlad was backing him up. The fight was more about what Wlad wasn't doing more than what AJ was doing. And I wasn't that impressed with AJ's performance although the fight was epic.

Wilder has two choices, fight Stiverne as his mandatory, or unify with one of the other champions. It doesn't sound like Parker wants it, and Joshua it sounds like will be fighting Pulev. No one wants to see him vs Stiverne again, but that is up to the WBC to decide, not Wilder.

That would be another embarrassing milestone in bumsquads pathetic excuse of a career. The champion the USA deserves, an absolute bum and nobody.