...between 110K and 120K buys.
Yes, this is the same guy that had Triple L/Lemieux at 97K buys.
Not that I believe this number, but if it pizzes of G-guzzlers, I'm going to use it.
By any measure, the fight was really thin financially.
http://sportsdebatenetwork.com/boxing/interview-boxing-insider-rick-glaser-no-way-gggjacobs-did-170000-ppv-buys/
The angulo fight was 3 years ago...
GGG never fought a bigger name, and when he did, he didn't disappoint. The Brook fight sold well in the UK. Two fighters sell a fight.
It's amazing how you don't say anything about GGG deserving a % split.
A split is fair, but dont expect oscar to give him more than 30%...
so you are going to use canelos worst and gggs best??
heck you can even use the angulo numbers which by the way are official(showtime source) and angulo isnt bigger name than jacobs or koed quillin and both canelo and angulo were coming off a defeat and had no titles on the line...
Exactly and this clown bringing up live stream sales but only for GGG. As if he don't know they used Oscar's Ring TV which has been selling canelo ppvs for years. So embarrassing having to split those sales Maxi Pad is bragging about with oscar. Meanwhile ignoring these same live stream ppvs sales in canelo fights that drew 4x and 2x as many ppvs? Yup a fight with less demand did by his estimation 20k extra sales but canelo in bigger fights must of drew 0 live stream sales huh? They promoted the live stream for 1 week on ring tv. They promoted the live stream for months on ring tv for canelo fights. At worst canelo sold 2x and 4x live streams but this clown spent all last year refusing to ever take account for those sales. Now GGG uses daddy Oscar ring tv to sell a few ppvs he brings those numbers up.
It's actually funny watching him twist the numbers so that GGG still loses but loses by only half a mile instead of the 1-2 miles if you compare straight up. The gap is wide but maxi pad will make every excuse while despite these facts GGG is really just as big a star. Just wait till he bust out the google trends pie charts to prove it LMAO
If you compare 200k to 110k, you see that Golovkin deserves a split.
Jacobs has been in numerous fights Americans have seen headlined fights on cable and network tv. He's a bigger name and draw then smith who nobody in America has EVER seen who has never fought on American soil and fights never shown on American tv. Jacobs was billed as GGG biggest fight of his career. Smith wasnt. The fact canelo worst ppv does double then GGG best fight of his career says volumes of the gap in star power. Jacobs is closer to khan in terms of being known to fans then smith. Khan did 4x what GGG did and khan ain't even canelo biggest fight either. You play games trying to only take canelo worst ppv and compare it to gggs best fight knowing damn well smith is comparable to wade not jacobs. When GGG fights wade type fighters it's not even on ppv and he still has to give away free tickets. When canelo fights wade type fighters he draws over 51,000 fans and does better ppvs then ggg biggest fight. But I see why you ignore khan, cotto and Chavez ppvs but it fools no one.
so you are going to use canelos worst and gggs best??
heck you can even use the angulo numbers which by the way are official(showtime source) and angulo isnt bigger name than jacobs or koed quillin and both canelo and angulo were coming off a defeat and had no titles on the line...
The angulo fight was 3 years ago...
GGG never fought a bigger name, and when he did, he didn't disappoint. The Brook fight sold well in the UK. Two fighters sell a fight.
It's amazing how you don't say anything about GGG deserving a % split.
If you compare 200k to 110k, you see that Golovkin deserves a split.
so you are going to use canelos worst and gggs best??
heck you can even use the angulo numbers which by the way are official(showtime source) and angulo isnt bigger name than jacobs or koed quillin and both canelo and angulo were coming off a defeat and had no titles on the line...
most ggg fans have been using those numbers, so they should also use the 97k and 110k given by glaser.... dont you agree??
If you compare 200k to 110k, you see that Golovkin deserves a split.
What do you laugh at? if you actually read the article, he said that the 1000 e-mails he sent were to people just to know if they were buying the fight.... not 1000 e-mails sent trying to get information from cable companies or whatever.
Stupid ****...
Read the posts you are quoting man... I said that the e-mails were sent prior to the fight, why do you correct me on that if I said it?
If we take his numbers for granted, then we should take that Canelo-Khan did 400-450k, Canelo-Smith did 200k etc.
This fight was also sold by streaming and sold around 10-20k.
most ggg fans have been using those numbers, so they should also use the 97k and 110k given by glaser.... dont you agree??
What do you laugh at? if you actually read the article, he said that the 1000 e-mails he sent were to people just to know if they were buying the fight.... not 1000 e-mails sent trying to get information from cable companies or whatever.
Stupid ****...
Read the posts you are quoting man... I said that the e-mails were sent prior to the fight, why do you correct me on that if I said it?
If we take his numbers for granted, then we should take that Canelo-Khan did 400-450k, Canelo-Smith did 200k etc.
This fight was also sold by streaming and sold around 10-20k.
Dumbazz then GGG drew 97k. Either way if we take glaser numbers as gospel for both fighters then khan fight did 4x GGG and a fight with no name smith did more then double. And I brought up streaming ppvs for canelo that were not included in ppv numbers by cable providers all last year and idiots like you brushed it off. Now GGG just used the same exact service canelo has been using for years...Ring TV (owned by oscar). Now you care about streaming buys? when GGG had to pay oscar to use it. LMAO
If you want to add 10-20k off live stream ppv buys then OK add ATLEAST 50-60k off stream PPV sales for each of canelo last 2 fights and oscar and canelo didn't have to split that money. Oscar is K2 daddy they had to pay him for every ppv sold on Ring TV. LMAO
No matter how you twist the numbers GGG loses this debate.
whats stupid about it? non of the information is privileged information. You can probably write all the outlets get the numbers on a per city basis and just add it up. How you think the powers that be get teh numbers? or do you think COX calls up time warner, direct tv, spectrum, century link etc etc and gets all their numbers and tally them up and puts them in a nice spreadsheet for the promoters? lmfao.
I only took a basic statistic course, but 1000 random emails asking if they will buy the PPV is not a reliable method lol.
Sample size is way too small and you dont know if his sample is in any way representative for the base.
Another time when Glaser was asked how he gets his numbers, he said that he collects activities on his facebook feed, wtf.
The numbers given by HBO and the promoters are probably inflated, but I dont know why people think Glaser is a reliable source for PPV numbers.
whats stupid about it? non of the information is privileged information. You can probably write all the outlets get the numbers on a per city basis and just add it up. How you think the powers that be get teh numbers? or do you think COX calls up time warner, direct tv, spectrum, century link etc etc and gets all their numbers and tally them up and puts them in a nice spreadsheet for the promoters? lmfao.
What do you laugh at? if you actually read the article, he said that the 1000 e-mails he sent were to people just to know if they were buying the fight.... not 1000 e-mails sent trying to get information from cable companies or whatever.
Stupid ****...
He did say he has sources, and the poll was prior to the fight...
But if you dont consider his numbers legit just be consistent and dont use his numbers for other fighters...
Read the posts you are quoting man... I said that the e-mails were sent prior to the fight, why do you correct me on that if I said it?
If we take his numbers for granted, then we should take that Canelo-Khan did 400-450k, Canelo-Smith did 200k etc.
This fight was also sold by streaming and sold around 10-20k.
Pretty amazing that an end of the road Manny Pacquiao can still nearly triple the PPV numbers of a Golovkin fight fighting guys like Jessie Vargas
That's because Pacquaio is a real star and draw. Same as Floyd.
Rewind a few years and people were considering 900k to be a flop for Floyd and 600k a flop for Pacquaio because newer fans were used to them doing 1 million+ every time. Which in reality is juat ridiculous for a 6-8 year period.
I mean, as recent as 2015 fans considered 500k for Floyd-Berto as terrible numbers and some remidials on here considered it the "worst numbers ever"
Those days are over.
ggg need to do what floyd did.. become a crossover star. go on wrestlemania, do talk shows, make a p0rno man do something .. you can't just rely on knockouts. that sht worked for tyson because people genuinely thought mike was a serial killer. ggg needs to expand his profile.
I agree. I don't like it when people celebrate low numbers but I understand why they're doing it. Most of it's not directed at the fighter, but the obnoxious fans that are attacking other fighters for the exact same thing. There's still a lot of people bringing up Kovalev/Ward numbers to mock Ward, but then they turn around and plead for people to leave GG alone.
Low numbers are never anything to celebrate.
But they are a legit topic of discussion for fans of the sport who are being told that a fight is not being made because one fighter feels he deserves more.
When said fighter has a fight that has sale numbers that say different it's fair game.
But yeah, I aint gonna lie...
It IS a nice side perk that his fanboys have to expose themselves as hypocrites by panning one fighter's sales then giving props to their idol for doing the same damned thing.
Why didn't it work for Mosley or Hopkins?mosley got taken to the cleaners by his ex wife jinn...and hopkins is oscars partner in golden boy promotions...i will say bhop is doing well financialy
Why didn't it work for Mosley or Hopkins?
why dont you give me your address after threatening to shot me and my kids?
I aint butler. You come to my house in Detroit imma shoot you and yo ugly ass kids................
Well 200 would be more wouldn't it? 80k more by my count.
If im not mistaken he said 220k and thats canelos worst ppv ever, still is more than 97k and 110k combined lol... and is not like smith was a ko artist or he had previously koed quillin or something...
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